Casey Sheehan’s Grave

Bookworm was rather suddenly called away on a trip, so I'll be pinch-hitting for a while.  Right now, all I've got is a question.  My father sent me an e-mail with a picture of what was supposedly Casey Sheehan's grave, without a tombstone.  Does anyone know whether it is true that his parents haven't bothered to put a headstone on their son's grave?  Hard to imagine Cindy's handlers would allow such a negative symbol to exist. but does anyone know for sure?

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9 Responses to “Casey Sheehan’s Grave”

  1. on 09 Apr 2006 at 11:44 am Barrett

    I heard something similar on LGF, and I think Instapundit a while back….

    Google is a wonderful thing. I just did a search and came up with this, a blog dated March 26th 2006 with a picture from “Vanity Fair” that proves it.

    http://www.estatevaults.com/lm/archives/002512.html

  2. on 09 Apr 2006 at 4:23 pm Zhombre

    I’d be willing to contribute to buy a headstone. He ought to have a better memorial than his mother’s activism.

  3. on 10 Apr 2006 at 4:55 am G-Raze

    God you people know no bounds to how low you’ll stoop. My father has no gravestone … erhhhh, forget it, just forget it, trying to explain simple differences in how different people do things means nothing to the horrible conservative who uses — whatever — to make their self-congratulatory hay. just have at I don’t care

  4. on 10 Apr 2006 at 1:19 pm Ymarsakar

    Mother Theresa is the one on the ground, which is as low as you can go technically. You can stoop lower, but you’d have to be a worm to get under the dirt.

  5. on 10 Apr 2006 at 5:25 pm Don Quixote

    Gee, G-raze, must have struck a nerve. You have even less constructive to contribute than usual. Please read my post again. I only asked if the rumor was true and expressed surprise that Cindy Sheehan’s advisors would allow such a negative symbol to exist. That hardly warrants an ad hominem attack against all conservatives. It is certainly more measured and moderate than your liberal reaction. By the way, the symbol is negative because it is traditional in the United States to honor our dead with headstones. Cindy Sheehan can honor her son that way or not; it’s totally up to her. But as someone who seeks to influence public opinion and claims a right to based on her son’s death one would think she would make sure she honored that son in a way that would resonate with the people she is trying to persuade. These things are important to some people. I can’t say anything useful about your father. Perhaps you could enlighten us as to why he has no headstone. Or not, as you please, but you brought him up.

  6. on 12 Apr 2006 at 11:15 am G-raze

    I almost missed your reply, Don Q — which would have been too bad, since I’m starting to like chatting with you. I mean – Hey! – your responses often prove my original point, which is sweeet.

    Take a look at your reply, above, and correct me if I’m wrong, but is it your position that Cindy Sheehan should place a headstone on Casey Sheehan’s grave because, if she doesn’t, then people – such as yourself – will think less of her and automatically discount her point-of-view? uhhhhhh, Not much substance to that, other than it being a lovely example of emotional blackmail (coercing Cindy Sheehan – and her supporters – to comply with your demand, in spite of Sheehan’s own apparent wishes) – An assessment that goes a long way to proving my original point, that when it comes to lowballing an opponent, Conservatives are the ones who invent newer and newer ways to drop the bar. For example, here’s an example of your Casey-headstone-argument from today’s news:

    “But Sestak didn’t expect to be second-guessed by the Republican incumbent, Curt Weldon, on where his 5-year-old daughter, Alexandra Sestak, should be treated for a malignant brain tumor. ¶ Apparently trying to score political points on a residency issue, Weldon reportedly suggested to a Washington newspaper that Sestak should have sent his daughter to a hospital in Pennsylvania or Delaware, rather than the Children’s National Medical Center in Washington, where she has been treated since the tumor was diagnosed last summer.”

    Check it out.

  7. on 12 Apr 2006 at 12:38 pm Ymarsakar

    That hardly warrants an ad hominem attack against all conservatives.

    The truth is an ad hominem attack, so yes, it does warrant the label.

    It is certainly more measured and moderate than your liberal reaction.

    You mean Gazie’s glazed donuts respect for Bookie and Wormie? Ain’t it sweat, uhhhhhh sweet.

    will think less of her and automatically discount her point-of-view? uhhhhhh,

    Let me slow it duun 4 ya. Roll. On. The. Floor. Laughing. My. Pondanadunk. Off.

  8. on 13 Apr 2006 at 6:14 am Don Quixote

    G-Raze, nice of you to engage in dialogue instead of name-calling. Sorry I didn’t make my point clearer. I’m certainly not trying to blackmail Sheehan into honoring her son in the way others would want her to do if she doesn’t want to herself. As I said, it’s totally up to her. My point is that she seeks to influence public opinion. I’m surprised that her advisors would not suggest that doing something that would upset so many people is a bad idea. And I find it hard to believe (although I’ll grant it is possible) that she is so philosophically opposed to the thought of honoring her son with a headstone that she would refuse to follow such advise. I’m not critical so much as puzzled. In the world of public opinion, symbols matter. And failing to place a headstone on her son’s grave, even if done out of strong personal belief, is not s symbol likely to help her achieve the goals she is fighting for.

  9. on 13 Apr 2006 at 3:57 pm Ymarsakar

    Sometimes personal integrity is a little passe, people. And we need to be understanding of those who don’t think death is lighter than a feather, duty heavier than mountains. I mean, some might even think that duty is light as a feather, while death is heavy as mountains!!!

    I think you need to separate true believers from propagandists, DQ. True believers have reasons for their actions, in all seriousness, that are independent of the intents and purposes of political activists and pundits. I tend to think Sheehan doesn’t believe her son is dead, and that closure would be a defeat, therefore closure must be ripped open, not closed. As a symbol of Sheehan’s death and continued loss and grief, it is a very powerful one indeed. I might believe that a Democratic spin master might have recommended the tombstone for support reasons, but Sheehan never was in this to convince anyone or to gain support.

    The difference between true believers is that we believe, and the propaganda spinmeisters Do Not. Conscientious propagandists, both believe as well as spin for the cause. But those are few and far between.

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