Comments on: Suburbs and urbs http://www.bookwormroom.com/2006/04/26/suburbs-and-urbs/ She escaped from the belly of the liberal beast Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:03:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Ymarsakar http://www.bookwormroom.com/2006/04/26/suburbs-and-urbs/#comment-773 Ymarsakar Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:12:27 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=144#comment-773 The big cities internalize small sub-sects of social cliques. Small towns can't do that, because, they're too small to subsect into this or that other whatever "elite enclave". you should see the disrespect and outright violence the Dutch get from Muslim teenagers. Crazy stuff. But their problem doesn't have to do with cities, but cultural subsects. It's a lot easier for bad influences to hide out in big cities and metastasize. In homogenous communities, there is more capacity to absorb change, because it just subsumes any radicalized element early on. In big cities, it tends to start like a free for all fight if you try to get one to be like another. Sorta like the Arab proverb. me against my brother. Me and my brother against my cousin. Me and my brother with my cousin against the foreign invader. One big tribal culture. The more people there are, the greater the entropy, and thus the greater the chance for variations and mutations to occur contrary to the "Natural Order". It's sorta like how direct democracy breaks down after you get past the city-state. Too many people and too many factions arguing over too many things, to do anything constructive. The big cities internalize small sub-sects of social cliques. Small towns can’t do that, because, they’re too small to subsect into this or that other whatever “elite enclave”.

you should see the disrespect and outright violence the Dutch get from Muslim teenagers. Crazy stuff. But their problem doesn’t have to do with cities, but cultural subsects.

It’s a lot easier for bad influences to hide out in big cities and metastasize. In homogenous communities, there is more capacity to absorb change, because it just subsumes any radicalized element early on. In big cities, it tends to start like a free for all fight if you try to get one to be like another. Sorta like the Arab proverb. me against my brother. Me and my brother against my cousin. Me and my brother with my cousin against the foreign invader.

One big tribal culture. The more people there are, the greater the entropy, and thus the greater the chance for variations and mutations to occur contrary to the “Natural Order”.

It’s sorta like how direct democracy breaks down after you get past the city-state. Too many people and too many factions arguing over too many things, to do anything constructive.

]]> By: Earl http://www.bookwormroom.com/2006/04/26/suburbs-and-urbs/#comment-772 Earl Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:31:00 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=144#comment-772 I'm beyond the age where I spend time with flocks of boys these days. I know what you mean though.....the same kind of thing is detectable in the college students I teach. The unfortunate thing is that one almost never sees the open, happy, respectful attitudes "rub off on" the sullen, angry, "cool" guys.....even when they are seriously outnumbered, it always seems to go the other way. Some guys are true to themselves and stand tall, but generally a larger number begins to ape "the attitude", to a greater or lesser degree. Pretty sad. I’m beyond the age where I spend time with flocks of boys these days. I know what you mean though…..the same kind of thing is detectable in the college students I teach.

The unfortunate thing is that one almost never sees the open, happy, respectful attitudes “rub off on” the sullen, angry, “cool” guys…..even when they are seriously outnumbered, it always seems to go the other way. Some guys are true to themselves and stand tall, but generally a larger number begins to ape “the attitude”, to a greater or lesser degree.

Pretty sad.

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