Comments on: Representative government http://www.bookwormroom.com/2006/06/26/representative-government/ She escaped from the belly of the liberal beast Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:38:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Earl http://www.bookwormroom.com/2006/06/26/representative-government/#comment-1979 Earl Wed, 28 Jun 2006 21:36:22 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=377#comment-1979 "we hesitate to preempt the role of legislators and courts" Just what is he talking about. The legislators and the courts KNEW about the program and kept their knowledge quiet. The NYT did precisely what this jackass says they "hesitate" to do -- they preempted the role of all three branches of government, despite being asked not to with good national security reasons given. If this action violates laws against aiding and abetting the enemy, and working against the U.S. of A., then leakers, reporters and editors should face the music and pay the piper. “we hesitate to preempt the role of legislators and courts”

Just what is he talking about. The legislators and the courts KNEW about the program and kept their knowledge quiet.

The NYT did precisely what this jackass says they “hesitate” to do — they preempted the role of all three branches of government, despite being asked not to with good national security reasons given.

If this action violates laws against aiding and abetting the enemy, and working against the U.S. of A., then leakers, reporters and editors should face the music and pay the piper.

]]> By: Ymarsakar http://www.bookwormroom.com/2006/06/26/representative-government/#comment-1980 Ymarsakar Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:12:22 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=377#comment-1980 As we see with Haditha, it doesn't matter if you ex post facto clear up the situation with evidence. The damage is done. In terms of information wars, propaganda wars, and the war of words and semantics, he who attacks first also attacks last for the advantage does indeed lie with the aggressor. As we see with Haditha, it doesn’t matter if you ex post facto clear up the situation with evidence. The damage is done. In terms of information wars, propaganda wars, and the war of words and semantics, he who attacks first also attacks last for the advantage does indeed lie with the aggressor.

]]> By: ExPreacherMan http://www.bookwormroom.com/2006/06/26/representative-government/#comment-1981 ExPreacherMan Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:11:21 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=377#comment-1981 Ymarsakar is right... <blockquote> Even Conservatives throw out the words "We fight for a 'democratic' government in XYZ country." The Libs smile with glee when they hear that!! ExP Ymarsakar is right…

Even Conservatives throw out the words “We fight for a ‘democratic’ government in XYZ country.”

The Libs smile with glee when they hear that!!

ExP

]]> By: anna27 http://www.bookwormroom.com/2006/06/26/representative-government/#comment-1982 anna27 Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:54:22 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=377#comment-1982 Great post, Book. The NYT is completely irresponsible and could care less about the safety of this country! Great post, Book. The NYT is completely irresponsible and could care less about the safety of this country!

]]> By: jg http://www.bookwormroom.com/2006/06/26/representative-government/#comment-1983 jg Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:03:06 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=377#comment-1983 ExP is right. You make a very apt point, Bookworm. Thanks. ExP is right. You make a very apt point, Bookworm. Thanks.

]]> By: Ymarsakar http://www.bookwormroom.com/2006/06/26/representative-government/#comment-1984 Ymarsakar Tue, 27 Jun 2006 02:51:22 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=377#comment-1984 I'd like to know about Dan Rather's career investigation details, but the media said we don't have the need to know since everything would be conducted "in house". Right. The NYTimes said the same about Jason Blair. It's all in the family, you know. People don't need to know who hired Blair and for what reasons, they don't even need to know the names of who hired Blair in the first place. The hypocrisy, I suppose, is annoying. But it's getting more than annoying, it's getting a bit dangerous. I’d like to know about Dan Rather’s career investigation details, but the media said we don’t have the need to know since everything would be conducted “in house”. Right.

The NYTimes said the same about Jason Blair. It’s all in the family, you know. People don’t need to know who hired Blair and for what reasons, they don’t even need to know the names of who hired Blair in the first place. The hypocrisy, I suppose, is annoying. But it’s getting more than annoying, it’s getting a bit dangerous.

]]> By: Deana http://www.bookwormroom.com/2006/06/26/representative-government/#comment-1985 Deana Tue, 27 Jun 2006 02:16:58 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=377#comment-1985 Bookworm - I thought the exact same thing. (And have been thrilled at the insight that so many others have brought to the table in this discussion across the blogosphere. Really fascinating!) So where, exactly, would Keller and others draw the line? His last statement, ". . . we hesitate to preempt the role of legislators and courts, and ultimately the electorate, which cannot consider a program if they don’t know about it" astounds me. Is there any program, any effort, any piece of information vital not only to our national security but the safety and well being of others around the world, that they would withold? And if there is, I would love to know on what basis they make that decision. Bookworm -

I thought the exact same thing. (And have been thrilled at the insight that so many others have brought to the table in this discussion across the blogosphere. Really fascinating!)

So where, exactly, would Keller and others draw the line? His last statement, “. . . we hesitate to preempt the role of legislators and courts, and ultimately the electorate, which cannot consider a program if they don’t know about it” astounds me. Is there any program, any effort, any piece of information vital not only to our national security but the safety and well being of others around the world, that they would withold?

And if there is, I would love to know on what basis they make that decision.

]]> By: Ymarsakar http://www.bookwormroom.com/2006/06/26/representative-government/#comment-1986 Ymarsakar Tue, 27 Jun 2006 02:00:35 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=377#comment-1986 The new world order is not a representative democracy, and as my AP US Civics teacher always reminded us, we're a representative democracy, not a democracy. Don't hear that up at those Journaleeism Schools you know. The Democrats have been using the word "democracy" for so long, they've started to believe that their name is a recognition that they and only they are the representatives of true democracy, every one else is offering a less pure version. The new world order is not a representative democracy, and as my AP US Civics teacher always reminded us, we’re a representative democracy, not a democracy. Don’t hear that up at those Journaleeism Schools you know.

The Democrats have been using the word “democracy” for so long, they’ve started to believe that their name is a recognition that they and only they are the representatives of true democracy, every one else is offering a less pure version.

]]> By: ExPreacherMan http://www.bookwormroom.com/2006/06/26/representative-government/#comment-1987 ExPreacherMan Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:53:04 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=377#comment-1987 Book, Great observation! Looks like Keller was educated in our public schools -- or Harvard... and really does not know how a Representative Republic operates. (Or more likely, doesn't care). Your observation on this point is sharp!! However this whole mess is a sad, sad commentary on our media -- most of it. ExP Book,

Great observation!

Looks like Keller was educated in our public schools — or Harvard… and really does not know how a Representative Republic operates. (Or more likely, doesn’t care).

Your observation on this point is sharp!!

However this whole mess is a sad, sad commentary on our media — most of it.

ExP

]]> By: zhombre http://www.bookwormroom.com/2006/06/26/representative-government/#comment-1988 zhombre Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:47:55 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=377#comment-1988 I could care less about Keller's views of democracy. He admits this program was effective, and was not abused, and despite entreaties of the government not to divulge its existence and call attention to the program, for fear of compromising its effectiveness and hence compromising U.S. security, the NYT goes ahead and publishes this piece. Keller is a bastard, a pompous one too, and the New York Times can go to hell. I could care less about Keller’s views of democracy. He admits this program was effective, and was not abused, and despite entreaties of the government not to divulge its existence and call attention to the program, for fear of compromising its effectiveness and hence compromising U.S. security, the NYT goes ahead and publishes this piece. Keller is a bastard, a pompous one too, and the New York Times can go to hell.

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