Mexican wives seek ouster of husbands from U.S.
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20070226-010345-3459r.htm

There are people without the benefit of American husbands that have to go through INS without the fast track system. There are Mexicans who are shipped into the US illegaly by human slave traffickers aka Coyotes, with no legal recourse and have to tolerate assaults, rapes, and kidnappings for ransom.

It is disgusting that someone would make a film about a customs official killing an American with his wife there, just to make this ridiculous pampered “point”.

It’s strange to think that many Americans have never been outside of the United States. It’s even more strange to think that these same people can profile and stereotype foreigners based on what they see on TV or read in the news. The United States is suppose to be tolerant of all races and creeds. With their profiling techniques, I often wonder who Homeland Security is really protecting? Could it be for middle America - to keep out the “aliens who are infesting this country”? For a “non-racist” society, we’ve got a long way to go…

People act like immigrants with American spouses have it bad… what a joke.

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Just a niggling detail that caught my eye. You said…”those laborers inevitably get channeled into the worst types of jobs, such as meat packing plants.”

Yet those jobs used be considered some of the best blue collar jobs available. I know, I worked as a chef and a cook for a lot of years and dealt with meat packing plants pre-invasion.

They are bad jobs now because of illegal immigrants, companies treat the illegals like the disposable employees they are and take no care in training or preservation of the workforce. I seem to recall reading a CIS report suggesting that the employee turnover in meat packing plants is over a 100% per year.

For what it’s worth from a blue collar perspective, plenty of Americans did these jobs before illegals came, in fact they would do them today except Americans expect to be paid well and treated decently. When you hear a country club republican or leftist sneer at how Americans “can’t compete” against illegals, what they’re really saying is “how dare Americans expect decent pay and working conditions?”

Illegal aliens, a blessing in so many ways. /S

GWB & his ilk/cohorts are not fooling me one bit. The current trend of ‘tough’ is window dressing to try & get amnesty given to invaders/”over-stayers” by saying “see we are getting tough, now give amnesty since we’ve been giving you pittance of some raids, see we’re being ‘comprehensive’.” Never mind that is what they’re SUPPOSED TO DO: GO AFTER/SEARCH FOR/ARREST INVADERS.

RR betrayed the USA with the ‘86 amnesty which only made the problem of invasion WORSE, and that’s a fact, and any additional/new amnesty, IMHO, will do just the same.

Also, on the article’s complaint about kicking out those that got here legitimately but violated “minor” laws well IMHO = T.S. As far as I’m concerned, the USA has the RIGHT to DEPORT anybody we wish for ANY OR EVEN NO REASON AT ALL. Letting someone into a country is extending a privilege not a RIGHT.
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Deana etc: IMHO, to grant amnesty (aid-and-abet) to those that have invaded this country or overstayed the time period that they were supposed to be here or to ignore their invalid presence here, REGARDLESS of their country of origin, is an insult/an affront/BETRAYAL to ALL CITIZENS of the USA, BORN & NATURALIZED. And between the two I’d say the BIGGER insult is to those that came here correctly & followed the rules to become citizens ONLY to see those that didn’t/aren’t doing it correctly getting a ‘pass’. IMHO, ANYBODY REPEAT ANYBODY (for examp RR, GWB, McCain, Giuliani & etc) that tries to excuse, support, defend, coddle & or otherwise aid-and-abet invaders by amnesty or any other means are BETRAYERS to the USA, her Constitution and her CITIZENS BORN OR NATURALIZED.

helenl, To me it isn’t really about “legalities” it is the difference btwn RIGHT & WRONG. And IMHO, it is WRONG to sneek, trespass, overstay, invade, etc into the USA. PERIOD. AND IMHO, INVADERS have NO Constitutional rights/civil rights inside the USA AT ALL. PERIOD.

M. Devereaux, IMHO, enforcement against invaders DOES need to be SEVERE or “draconian” if you prefer. IMHO, INVADERS = NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS WHATSOEVER, regardless of what SCOTUS or anybody else says. To give them such is WRONG.

Zhombre, We SHOULD be discriminatory or prejudiced in writing down/making laws on who we ALLOW into the USA b/c we are WELL WITHIN OUR RIGHTS TO DO SO just like ALL COUNTRIES have that right & just like individuals have the right to do so in their own homes. For examp, the ‘undesirables’ known as terrorists or those that aid-and-abet such w/ $ & or other means. As Mike referenced, look at the UK & the Netherlands (Van Gogh ring a bell). Now when we actually do ENFORCE the current regs we have we should NOT be discriminatory - what we should do is PUNISH TO THE FULLEST EXTENT ANYBODY FROM ANYWHERE that is NOT in this country LEGITIMATELY.
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If it were up to me the regs/laws would say the following: If an adult is illegitimately INSIDE the USA & is caught here being such they would have their photos taken, fingerprinted, DNA taken & WARNED that they are FOREVER barred from being in the USA for ANY REASON (not just the current temporary ban) & that if they are caught here a 2nd time & after DNA confirmation they would be executed immediately. If they are caught here after they have children born here they would have 2 choices (1) Take the kid(s) with & the kids can come back any time they want when they are adults or as a child back w/ someone OTHER THAN the previously caught parent(s) via authorized crossings/means or (2) Give us the name of a blood relative inside the USA that is either a citizen or here legitimately & the kid(s) can go there.

Now for those adults SEEN crossing ANY USA border into the here at an UNAPPROVED crossing the border patrol/national guard would have standing orders to shoot to kill after one warning shot & local sheriffs or other law-enforcement individual would also be authorized to do so but they could call the BP or NG instead or just arrest the invader & turn them over to BP/NG & the previous DNA etc would apply and any border property owner who sees this can either do the shooting or call authorities (BTW, I believe ANY property owner has the right to shoot any non-law enforcement [meaning they can't shoot cops coming to arrest them on a warrant etc] intruder, foreign invader or not.) Yes, I know they are those that say that is ‘inhumane’ or some such but I don’t care b/c I’ve had enough & IMHO it WOULD work better than any other policy I’ve seen proposed. Now realistically, I KNOW the shootings will rarely happen & official executions aren’t going to happen but AT THE VERY LEAST the photos, fingerprints & DNA step should be taken & the 2nd offense would result in 5 yr chain-gang or some such prison work detail w/o parole/release w/o pay & then deported afterward PDQ.

BTW, I am NOT a citizen of America since that is too generic. I am a UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CITIZEN. Not a North American citizen nor an “Americas” citizen. I mention this b/c many, including but not ltd to GWB, envision a BORDER-LESS region btwn the “Americas”. A “New World Order” if you will or an EU for the Americas.

The day Amnesty Part II comes to pass is the day I stop flying my USA flag & will stop being proud to be a citizen of her.

BTW, to the KKK & such: SHUT UP I don’t want or need your “help”.