Comments on: Amazing http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/02/19/amazing/ She escaped from the belly of the liberal beast Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:30:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: ymarsakar http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/02/19/amazing/#comment-11014 ymarsakar Thu, 22 Feb 2007 05:22:11 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1359#comment-11014 I still contend that there are two different perspectives from which these subjects may be viewed. One from a pure metaphysical sense of what the true nature of things are, and two the ethical outlook of love, hate, and what not. The path that is taken from the two, then dictates what it means to say the term "opposite of another". I still contend that there are two different perspectives from which these subjects may be viewed. One from a pure metaphysical sense of what the true nature of things are, and two the ethical outlook of love, hate, and what not. The path that is taken from the two, then dictates what it means to say the term “opposite of another”.

]]> By: ymarsakar http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/02/19/amazing/#comment-11016 ymarsakar Thu, 22 Feb 2007 05:19:47 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1359#comment-11016 <B>Love and hate have the same roots, only in the latter case, these are poisoned.</b> http://umkahlil.blogspot.com/2005/03/elie-wiesel-fraud.html That was the only ref I could find. In the sense that I got based upon the materials, E seemed to be saying that if love is good then the bad would be indifference as exampled by the holocaust results, the evil there. This might or might not then declare hate to be good nor bad. Love and hate have the same roots, only in the latter case, these are poisoned.

http://umkahlil.blogspot.com/2005/03/elie-wiesel-fraud.html

That was the only ref I could find.

In the sense that I got based upon the materials, E seemed to be saying that if love is good then the bad would be indifference as exampled by the holocaust results, the evil there. This might or might not then declare hate to be good nor bad.

]]> By: helenl http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/02/19/amazing/#comment-11015 helenl Thu, 22 Feb 2007 04:31:48 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1359#comment-11015 Yes Deana, I agree. And with Zhombre. I really don't think it's so much a question of it's always love v. hate or it's always love/hate v. indifference, as an a realization that there are alternate ways to look at the world. Western thought often favors duality above seeking other means whereby ideas are related. There is not an opposite for everyhting, just because there are opposite forces in physics. And it's more than just right brain v. left brain thinking. The facts are very important, and so is their interpretation, but there are other ways of knowing. Yes Deana, I agree. And with Zhombre.

I really don’t think it’s so much a question of it’s always love v. hate or it’s always love/hate v. indifference, as an a realization that there are alternate ways to look at the world.

Western thought often favors duality above seeking other means whereby ideas are related. There is not an opposite for everyhting, just because there are opposite forces in physics. And it’s more than just right brain v. left brain thinking. The facts are very important, and so is their interpretation, but there are other ways of knowing.

]]> By: Deana http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/02/19/amazing/#comment-11020 Deana Thu, 22 Feb 2007 03:20:15 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1359#comment-11020 I think what Zhombre said is closer to what I suspect to be true. I really don't think I have every truly hated someone but there have been those who have made me very angry and frustrated. But somehow, the anger was a symbol that I still cared. But then I had an experience in which there was this other person who I wound up not caring about. I found that I didn't care a whole lot whether she was happy or sad or whether she was even doing ok. What scared me so much was that I realized I had crossed a chasm - she was getting dangerously close to meaning nothing to me, like an inanimate object of no value. I realized that if someone or others are thought of in that manner, there is no telling what the person who thinks that way is capable of doing. What is the likelihood of showing compassion to someone if they mean nothing to you? I just didn't like that feeling. I think what Zhombre said is closer to what I suspect to be true.

I really don’t think I have every truly hated someone but there have been those who have made me very angry and frustrated. But somehow, the anger was a symbol that I still cared.

But then I had an experience in which there was this other person who I wound up not caring about. I found that I didn’t care a whole lot whether she was happy or sad or whether she was even doing ok. What scared me so much was that I realized I had crossed a chasm - she was getting dangerously close to meaning nothing to me, like an inanimate object of no value. I realized that if someone or others are thought of in that manner, there is no telling what the person who thinks that way is capable of doing.

What is the likelihood of showing compassion to someone if they mean nothing to you?

I just didn’t like that feeling.

]]> By: helenl http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/02/19/amazing/#comment-11019 helenl Thu, 22 Feb 2007 03:09:02 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1359#comment-11019 Don't see that as very useful, DQ. Don’t see that as very useful, DQ.

]]> By: helenl http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/02/19/amazing/#comment-11018 helenl Thu, 22 Feb 2007 03:08:19 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1359#comment-11018 Only Wordpress thinks it knows what I meant and changed the drawing for me. :-) Only Wordpress thinks it knows what I meant and changed the drawing for me. :-)

]]> By: helenl http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/02/19/amazing/#comment-11017 helenl Thu, 22 Feb 2007 03:07:08 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1359#comment-11017 Hate.........................Love Indifference Hate…………………….Love

Indifference

]]> By: Zhombre http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/02/19/amazing/#comment-11022 Zhombre Thu, 22 Feb 2007 00:42:12 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1359#comment-11022 Ezxcuse me for barging in but on that subject I have never forgotten something Elie Wiesel once said. I paraphrase: Love and indifference are opposites. Love and hate have the same roots, only in the latter case, these are poisoned. That's similar to something I once read, that blasphemy is prayer in reverse, because both posit a deity. Ezxcuse me for barging in but on that subject I have never forgotten something Elie Wiesel once said. I paraphrase: Love and indifference are opposites. Love and hate have the same roots, only in the latter case, these are poisoned. That’s similar to something I once read, that blasphemy is prayer in reverse, because both posit a deity.

]]> By: Don Quixote http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/02/19/amazing/#comment-11021 Don Quixote Thu, 22 Feb 2007 00:35:44 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1359#comment-11021 Hi Helen, I do think love and hate are opposites, with indifference in the intermediate position: Hate..........Indifference..........Love How would you draw them? Hi Helen,

I do think love and hate are opposites, with indifference in the intermediate position:

Hate……….Indifference……….Love

How would you draw them?

]]> By: helenl http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/02/19/amazing/#comment-11023 helenl Wed, 21 Feb 2007 19:19:59 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1359#comment-11023 "It is not so much feelings that matter, as actions." This is true, if we are logical. But some of the time, most of us are not logical. Feelings matter, because we live there more often than like to admit. “It is not so much feelings that matter, as actions.” This is true, if we are logical. But some of the time, most of us are not logical. Feelings matter, because we live there more often than like to admit.

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