Hey BW.

I agree with your premise above….I am just obviously frustrated with the oil and gas industries and politicians who make excuses for why we don’t already have alternative cleaner energy sources and methods for keeping the environment cleaner while keeping us away from middle-east dependency which often inadvertently funds terrorism. whokilledtheelectriccar?

has anyone actually watched this documentary?

what about “Iraq for Sale:The War Profiteers”?

good stuff

http://www.eskom.co.za/nuclear_energy/pebble_bed/pebble_bed.html

Are the environmentalists for it? No. Does that mean the environmentalists wish to protect the environment by refusing to solve the problem? No, to that as well. So what are the environmentalists meta-goal? Hrm, maybe we can figure that out if we talk to Gore and B.

This is indicative of something. People yell very loudly about “problems”. But the solutions to IEDs (something BigA yelled about) such as the Grizzly Man’s carapace armor, is totally ignored as if it doesn’t matter. This is indicative of something, and it isn’t positive.

Nevertheless, my original point remains the same: while we’re all getting hysterical here, the East is starting to make a mess that will make our mess look innocuous. This means that the smartest thing to do, is not to turn down our thermostats (although that’s smart too), but to continue the search for cheap, easy alternative energy sources that will bypass dictators and that will be cheap enough for emerging economies to use.

Military geniuses?, HAHAHAHAHA
Just wanted to clarify

Go watch Norris and Colmes

Already did that.

Yes Y, I feel guilt too as does every human being. And when I do, I’ve found the best course of action is to “admit my faults and sincerely try to mend my ways”.

But it isn’t your personal problems you are mending or even Gore’s personal problems, it is outside of person. Instead, it is about political policies and the nation. As if you can make 300 million people do what you want them to do because of your personal emotions.

What is right and wrong is independent of what anyone else is doing. If China continues to pollute, it has nothing to do with whether we should keep polluting unnecessarily.
If China jumped off a bridge, would we follow?

The problem is rather simple to portray. It isn’t the question of following. It is the question of, since we’re not jumping off the bridge and China is, why you aren’t trying to convince China of not jumping?

Don’t you want to fix the worst environmental problems? And those aren’t in the US.

I was pointing out that he needs to get a lot more credit for his intelligence by his accusers.

Well that’s a nice attempt at a red herring. Since the question is of his corruption, not his intelligence. After all, people in self-denial don’t need to be smart or dumb to be that way.

Of course, the logic of saying that if someone is corrupt and that means they are intelligent, is an interesting separate debate. Because technically, if they were that intelligent, they could make much more money legitimately, rather than stealing from the creativity of others. Then again, the really cunning and intelligent, don’t get caught, so we don’t know who they are.

Gore got caught pretty easily. What does that say for his planning?

However, I really do believe that Gore is just a good guy who cares about the environment and future generations.

Ya well, I did say that about denial, didn’t I?

Military geniuses, HAHAHAHAHA :).

Just wanted to calrify

The fact that China is a bigger polluter than us has nothing to do with whether or not we should do something about our enormous contributions to polluting our country and the rest of the world. 2 wrongs don’t make a right.

What is right and wrong is independent of what anyone else is doing. If China continues to pollute, it has nothing to do with whether we should keep polluting unnecessarily.
If China jumped off a bridge, would we follow?

Fear of Islam? I’m sorry you’re afraid Y. I must quote Yoda: “Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering”

We’re all going to die someday Y. And so will our children.

Does that mean we should not do something about radical Islamic terrorists? Of course not. I happen to disagree with the way the Whitehouse is fighting this war on terror, but that doesn’t mean I don’t think it is a war that needs to be fought or at least a very big problem that needs to be understood and action taken(long-term if necessary)–i would just do it differently.

Fear of Global Warming and harmful pollutants? Don’t be afraid. We can do something about it just like we can do something about terrorism.

Yes Y, I feel guilt too as does every human being. And when I do, I’ve found the best course of action is to “admit my faults and sincerely try to mend my ways”.

Finally Y, I have already admitted long ago that the Bush Administration is full of political geniuses who have achieved many of their goals through corruption. Geniuses aren’t exempt from being corrupt or evil—i mean, look no further than the way Osama has made a mockery of the most powerful military in the world over the last 5.5 years. Osama is certainly genius and corrupt and evil all at the same time.

I said: “IF YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE GORE AND OTHERS HAVE CREATED THIS MARKET IN ORDER TO MAKE BOAT LOADS OF MONEY AND GAIN POWER THEN YOU ARE DILLUSIONAL. AND (IF YOU BELIEVE THAT IS TRUE) YOU MUST ALSO ADMIT THAT GORE IS A GENIUS BEYOND COMPREHENSION.”

So IF Gore had done all of this to make money (or gain power) from carbon-emissions reduction products (and the sale of his DVD, etc), I was pointing out that he needs to get a lot more credit for his intelligence by his accusers.

However, I really do believe that Gore is just a good guy who cares about the environment and future generations. And plus, he is a book reader, I’m always more comfortable with believing leaders (especially Presidents) who like to read and can speak clearly. Plus, I just get the feeling everything Bush says is “a load of crap”.

So go ahead and tune me out Y….

Go watch Norris and Colmes