Comments on: Get out there and vote . . . or, maybe not. http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/03/10/get-out-there-and-vote-or-maybe-not/ She escaped from the belly of the liberal beast Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:15:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Al http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/03/10/get-out-there-and-vote-or-maybe-not/#comment-11620 Al Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:37:38 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1412#comment-11620 There is certainly that possibility, ymarsakar. Though a reasonable fraction of people calling into the more liberal NPR talk shows come right out of a thoughtful right field. I have to hold on to the steering wheel tightly with both hands to avoid joining the group you suggest. Al There is certainly that possibility, ymarsakar. Though a reasonable fraction of people calling into the more liberal NPR talk shows come right out of a thoughtful right field. I have to hold on to the steering wheel tightly with both hands to avoid joining the group you suggest.
Al

]]> By: ymarsakar http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/03/10/get-out-there-and-vote-or-maybe-not/#comment-11619 ymarsakar Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:02:06 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1412#comment-11619 There might be another consideration, Al. It might not be primarily that people were indoctrinated by NPR and Fox in where they got their views, but instead people migrated to Fox or NPR based upon their current views. This then would totally invalidate the purpose of what news sources they read or not, because their views were already formed. Therefore people who believed in the truth, would stop tolerating NPR's falseness and join Fox's light. While those who believed in what is false, would join NPR and perhaps stop watching Fox altogether. There might be another consideration, Al. It might not be primarily that people were indoctrinated by NPR and Fox in where they got their views, but instead people migrated to Fox or NPR based upon their current views. This then would totally invalidate the purpose of what news sources they read or not, because their views were already formed.

Therefore people who believed in the truth, would stop tolerating NPR’s falseness and join Fox’s light. While those who believed in what is false, would join NPR and perhaps stop watching Fox altogether.

]]> By: Al http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/03/10/get-out-there-and-vote-or-maybe-not/#comment-11622 Al Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:30:18 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1412#comment-11622 The analogy I use is not that effective, because my target audience probably doesn't believe it, but here goes. Just as all the data are not in on the human contribution to Global Warming, so is the data not all in on connections between Saddam and al-Qaeda. Read some of the mountain of documents taken from Saddam's government that are slowly being translated. Saddam was into terror in a big way. The Univ. of Maryland study is cited as measuring "'key perceptions and beliefs'on 'US policy' in Iraq". If you just stay with the word "beliefs", it's understandable why Fox listeners would have one belief and NPR listeners would have another. Which one is more reflective of the truth? As a regular listener to both, I understand,and am mildly dismayed by the NPR response. Al The analogy I use is not that effective, because my target audience probably doesn’t believe it, but here goes. Just as all the data are not in on the human contribution to Global Warming, so is the data not all in on connections between Saddam and al-Qaeda. Read some of the mountain of documents taken from Saddam’s government that are slowly being translated. Saddam was into terror in a big way.
The Univ. of Maryland study is cited as measuring “‘key perceptions and beliefs’on ‘US policy’ in Iraq”. If you just stay with the word “beliefs”, it’s understandable why Fox listeners would have one belief and NPR listeners would have another. Which one is more reflective of the truth? As a regular listener to both, I understand,and am mildly dismayed by the NPR response.
Al

]]> By: Ellie http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/03/10/get-out-there-and-vote-or-maybe-not/#comment-11621 Ellie Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:24:58 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1412#comment-11621 I am also allowed to vote! But, being blonde and all, I got many correct answers by the process of elimination (the dog that didn't bark.) So, with a degree in philosophy, I am better at logic than I am flash cards! I am also allowed to vote! But, being blonde and all, I got many correct answers by the process of elimination (the dog that didn’t bark.) So, with a degree in philosophy, I am better at logic than I am flash cards!

]]> By: judyrose http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/03/10/get-out-there-and-vote-or-maybe-not/#comment-11635 judyrose Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:33:23 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1412#comment-11635 I got 100% but, like T.S., I'll skip going into politics. I must confess I wasn't sure about Olmert. I looked around the photo for some clues, and decided that some of the print on the newspaper in his hand looked like Hebrew. So I took a shot and was right. I got 100% but, like T.S., I’ll skip going into politics. I must confess I wasn’t sure about Olmert. I looked around the photo for some clues, and decided that some of the print on the newspaper in his hand looked like Hebrew. So I took a shot and was right.

]]> By: BigAL http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/03/10/get-out-there-and-vote-or-maybe-not/#comment-11634 BigAL Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:14:13 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1412#comment-11634 332.-- missed both mcconnell questions. quiz said i should definitely vote. i feel special. 332.– missed both mcconnell questions. quiz said i should definitely vote. i feel special.

]]> By: soccer dad http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/03/10/get-out-there-and-vote-or-maybe-not/#comment-11633 soccer dad Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:49:12 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1412#comment-11633 They made a mistake with John Roberts. His official title is Chief Justice of the United States, not of the Supreme Court. Sometimes it pays to watch Jeopardy! They made a mistake with John Roberts. His official title is Chief Justice of the United States, not of the Supreme Court. Sometimes it pays to watch Jeopardy!

]]> By: ymarsakar http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/03/10/get-out-there-and-vote-or-maybe-not/#comment-11632 ymarsakar Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:29:07 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1412#comment-11632 <B>links between Iraq and al-Qaeda have been found, that WMD have been found in Iraq and that world public opinion approved of the US going to war with Iraq</b> Now that's funny. Didn't know CBS had it in them. I mean, if people have read Neo's post on war death statistics, they probably can get where this is going without any help from me. links between Iraq and al-Qaeda have been found, that WMD have been found in Iraq and that world public opinion approved of the US going to war with Iraq

Now that’s funny.

Didn’t know CBS had it in them. I mean, if people have read Neo’s post on war death statistics, they probably can get where this is going without any help from me.

]]> By: T.S. http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/03/10/get-out-there-and-vote-or-maybe-not/#comment-11631 T.S. Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:10:27 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1412#comment-11631 "And yes, Fox News devotes did much better than average, I’m sure." -- Al I must be the exception to the rule, then. Did you ever see this? "An October 2003 study conducted by the University of Maryland's Program on International Policy (PIPA) found Fox News viewers were "significantly more likely to have misperceptions" about the Iraq war than all other media consumers. The study was "based on a series of seven US polls conducted from January through September" 2003 and measured respondents' "key perceptions and beliefs" on "US policy" in Iraq. The study found that "[t]hose who receive most of their news from Fox News are more likely than average to have misperceptions." For instance, of the "three key misperceptions" -- which the study listed as "the beliefs that ... links between Iraq and al-Qaeda have been found, that WMD have been found in Iraq and that world public opinion approved of the US going to war with Iraq" -- Fox News watchers were found not only to be the "most likely to hold misperceptions," but "were more than twice as likely than the next nearest network to hold all three misperceptions." The PIPA study found that 80 percent of Fox News viewers held at least one of the three misperceptions." People who got their news from NPR and PBS were the most informed, followed by those who got their news from print sources, all the way to FOX news viewers - 80% of whom were misinformed. This is how the results panned out: 1 or more misperceptions 80%- Fox News viwers 71% - CBS viewers 61% - ABC viewers 55% -- NBC viewers 55% -- CNN Viewers 47% -- Print sources 23% - PBS/NPR audiences “And yes, Fox News devotes did much better than average, I’m sure.” — Al

I must be the exception to the rule, then.

Did you ever see this?

“An October 2003 study conducted by the University of Maryland’s Program on International Policy (PIPA) found Fox News viewers were “significantly more likely to have misperceptions” about the Iraq war than all other media consumers. The study was “based on a series of seven US polls conducted from January through September” 2003 and measured respondents’ “key perceptions and beliefs” on “US policy” in Iraq. The study found that “[t]hose who receive most of their news from Fox News are more likely than average to have misperceptions.” For instance, of the “three key misperceptions” — which the study listed as “the beliefs that … links between Iraq and al-Qaeda have been found, that WMD have been found in Iraq and that world public opinion approved of the US going to war with Iraq” — Fox News watchers were found not only to be the “most likely to hold misperceptions,” but “were more than twice as likely than the next nearest network to hold all three misperceptions.” The PIPA study found that 80 percent of Fox News viewers held at least one of the three misperceptions.”

People who got their news from NPR and PBS were the most informed, followed by those who got their news from print sources, all the way to FOX news viewers - 80% of whom were misinformed. This is how the results panned out:

1 or more
misperceptions

80%- Fox News viwers

71% - CBS viewers

61% - ABC viewers

55% — NBC viewers

55% — CNN Viewers

47% — Print sources

23% - PBS/NPR audiences

]]> By: Al http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/03/10/get-out-there-and-vote-or-maybe-not/#comment-11623 Al Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:25:00 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1412#comment-11623 The Gates photo looked too much like Dean. Gates was my second choice. The Agualera choice was a complete guess.322 out of 350 ain't bad. And yes, Fox News devotes did much better than average, I'm sure. The next such poll should have a sub quiz on where the respondents get their news from. Might cause even more heart burn in the MSM. Al The Gates photo looked too much like Dean. Gates was my second choice. The Agualera choice was a complete guess.322 out of 350 ain’t bad. And yes, Fox News devotes did much better than average, I’m sure. The next such poll should have a sub quiz on where the respondents get their news from. Might cause even more heart burn in the MSM.
Al

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