Comments on: The fired US attorneys http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/03/16/the-fired-us-attorneys/ She escaped from the belly of the liberal beast Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:32:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: T.S. http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/03/16/the-fired-us-attorneys/#comment-11827 T.S. Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:30:59 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1434#comment-11827 God only knows what you’ll learn during a Clinton II or a Giuliani or McCain or Obama administration. I’m sure there are surprises yet to come.- Zhombre I'm sure, too. God only knows what you’ll learn during a Clinton II or a Giuliani or McCain or Obama administration. I’m sure there are surprises yet to come.- Zhombre

I’m sure, too.

]]> By: Zhombre http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/03/16/the-fired-us-attorneys/#comment-11824 Zhombre Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:17:04 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1434#comment-11824 God only knows what you'll learn during a Clinton II or a Giuliani or McCain or Obama administration. I'm sure there are surprises yet to come. God only knows what you’ll learn during a Clinton II or a Giuliani or McCain or Obama administration. I’m sure there are surprises yet to come.

]]> By: T.S. http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/03/16/the-fired-us-attorneys/#comment-11826 T.S. Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:30:24 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1434#comment-11826 Well, TS, I’m very sorry if the world isn’t as perfect and peoples’ motives as pure as you would like them to be. - Zhombre I became attuned to the importance of ethics during the Clinton years, Zhombre. The Bush years have taught me about double standards. Well, TS, I’m very sorry if the world isn’t as perfect and peoples’ motives as pure as you would like them to be. - Zhombre

I became attuned to the importance of ethics during the Clinton years, Zhombre. The Bush years have taught me about double standards.

]]> By: soccer dad http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/03/16/the-fired-us-attorneys/#comment-11825 soccer dad Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:15:59 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1434#comment-11825 Did you notice how this scandal bubbled to the surface right after the Libby conviction and Fitzgerald's declaration that there was nothing more to investigate. Awfully convenient that Rove's name comes up? In Baltimore we had a US attorney who accomplished some good but was very divisive. He was resigned 2 years ago. As soon as the firing story hit the fan, he went to the NY Times to claim that he was pressured to resign because he was pursuing a case that would hurt then-Gov. Ehrlich. Was there anything to his claim? I have no idea. But the NY Times was happy to add his complaint to that of the others. Did you notice how this scandal bubbled to the surface right after the Libby conviction and Fitzgerald’s declaration that there was nothing more to investigate. Awfully convenient that Rove’s name comes up?

In Baltimore we had a US attorney who accomplished some good but was very divisive. He was resigned 2 years ago. As soon as the firing story hit the fan, he went to the NY Times to claim that he was pressured to resign because he was pursuing a case that would hurt then-Gov. Ehrlich.

Was there anything to his claim? I have no idea. But the NY Times was happy to add his complaint to that of the others.

]]> By: greg http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/03/16/the-fired-us-attorneys/#comment-11828 greg Mon, 19 Mar 2007 01:01:15 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1434#comment-11828 Hi Z-Ray, This must be your busy season, yet you have time to post here. Have you been writing any lately? I sincerely hope you have. Hi Z-Ray, This must be your busy season, yet you have time to post here. Have you been writing any lately? I sincerely hope you have.

]]> By: Zhombre http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/03/16/the-fired-us-attorneys/#comment-11775 Zhombre Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:25:52 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1434#comment-11775 Well, TS, I'm very sorry if the world isn't as perfect and peoples' motives as pure as you would like them to be. If you think every one of these fired U.S. attorneys were sterling examples of conscience, ethics and professional competence, and devoid of any political motivations of their own, well, that's a bet on long odds, my friend. Well, TS, I’m very sorry if the world isn’t as perfect and peoples’ motives as pure as you would like them to be. If you think every one of these fired U.S. attorneys were sterling examples of conscience, ethics and professional competence, and devoid of any political motivations of their own, well, that’s a bet on long odds, my friend.

]]> By: ymarsakar http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/03/16/the-fired-us-attorneys/#comment-11777 ymarsakar Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:42:51 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1434#comment-11777 <B>I’m reminded of that wonderful scene between Michael and Kay</b> You are reminded of things that you wish to remember, which are only the things that reinforce your position, instead of things that could undermine them, such as naming things that you don't wish to be named. Like all people, you only remember things that you deem important, and what you deem important is based upon your assumption that you have things right. But you don't have things right, now do you. When the world is not the way you wish it to be, you must either bend it to your will, or you must admit your desires are not an accurate portrayal of the world. I’m reminded of that wonderful scene between Michael and Kay

You are reminded of things that you wish to remember, which are only the things that reinforce your position, instead of things that could undermine them, such as naming things that you don’t wish to be named. Like all people, you only remember things that you deem important, and what you deem important is based upon your assumption that you have things right. But you don’t have things right, now do you.

When the world is not the way you wish it to be, you must either bend it to your will, or you must admit your desires are not an accurate portrayal of the world.

]]> By: ymarsakar http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/03/16/the-fired-us-attorneys/#comment-11776 ymarsakar Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:39:45 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1434#comment-11776 I get the sense that people have more than one "strong sense of ethics" than TS has implied. It just isn't all about him and his always correct values, after all. I get the sense that people have more than one “strong sense of ethics” than TS has implied. It just isn’t all about him and his always correct values, after all.

]]> By: T.S. http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/03/16/the-fired-us-attorneys/#comment-11778 T.S. Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:21:19 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1434#comment-11778 "If you get a job because you have highly placed pols in your state recommending you, and you subsequently lose the confidence of those patrons for failure to pursue what they view as substantive cases, is that performance based or political?" - Zhombre The more I read about this case, the more I am convinced that having a conscience and a strong sense of ethics is a drawback in many circles. These "highly placed pols" sound more like thugs than statesmen. I'm reminded of that wonderful scene between Michael and Kay in the Godfather: MC: "My father is no different than any other powerful man -- any man who's responsible for other people, like a senator or president." KAY: "You know how naive you sound...senators and presidents don't have men killed." MC: "Oh, who's being naive, Kay?" “If you get a job because you have highly placed pols in your state recommending you, and you subsequently lose the confidence of those patrons for failure to pursue what they view as substantive cases, is that performance based or political?” - Zhombre

The more I read about this case, the more I am convinced that having a conscience and a strong sense of ethics is a drawback in many circles. These “highly placed pols” sound more like thugs than statesmen.

I’m reminded of that wonderful scene between Michael and Kay in the Godfather:

MC: “My father is no different than any other powerful man — any man who’s responsible for other people, like a senator or president.”

KAY: “You know how naive you sound…senators and presidents don’t have men killed.”

MC: “Oh, who’s being naive, Kay?”

]]> By: Zhombre http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/03/16/the-fired-us-attorneys/#comment-11779 Zhombre Sun, 18 Mar 2007 14:53:41 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1434#comment-11779 To answer your question, TS, I don't know. I suspect both political calculation and performance factors figured into the firings. I think both BW & Y above are right. If you get a job because you have highly placed pols in your state recommending you, and you subsequently lose the confidence of those patrons for failure to pursue what they view as substantive cases, is that performance based or political? To answer your question, TS, I don’t know. I suspect both political calculation and performance factors figured into the firings. I think both BW & Y above are right. If you get a job because you have highly placed pols in your state recommending you, and you subsequently lose the confidence of those patrons for failure to pursue what they view as substantive cases, is that performance based or political?

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