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		<title>By: ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/08/18/why-fight/#comment-13963</link>
		<dc:creator>ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Courtesy of Phileosophos

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		<title>By: ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/08/18/why-fight/#comment-13962</link>
		<dc:creator>ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/8/18/16346/5959" rel="nofollow"&gt;Daily kos says the Left lacks viciousness&lt;/a&gt;

I don't think so people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/8/18/16346/5959" rel="nofollow">Daily kos says the Left lacks viciousness</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think so people.</p>
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		<title>By: Webloggin - Blog Archive &#187; Healthy and Unhealthy Consumerism</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/08/18/why-fight/#comment-13964</link>
		<dc:creator>Webloggin - Blog Archive &#187; Healthy and Unhealthy Consumerism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you to read it. It also, right off the bat, highlighted something I touched upon in my early “Why Fight?” post — which is a question about what we’re defending when we fight. I pointed out in that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you to read it. It also, right off the bat, highlighted something I touched upon in my early “Why Fight?” post — which is a question about what we’re defending when we fight. I pointed out in that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Healthy and unhealthy consumerism &#171; Bookworm Room</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/08/18/why-fight/#comment-13965</link>
		<dc:creator>Healthy and unhealthy consumerism &#171; Bookworm Room</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you to read it. It also, right off the bat, highlighted something I touched upon in my early &#8220;Why Fight?&#8221; post &#8212; which is a question about what we&#8217;re defending when we fight. I pointed [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you to read it. It also, right off the bat, highlighted something I touched upon in my early &#8220;Why Fight?&#8221; post &#8212; which is a question about what we&#8217;re defending when we fight. I pointed [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/08/18/why-fight/#comment-13967</link>
		<dc:creator>ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People here or everywhere else often complain about how Iraqis place sectarian strife and loyalty above loyalty to country. This is exactly the same thing that the Left and their allies place top loyalty on.

So why do people bicker and so forth? Because that is how humans are. Civilization is no cure for it. Neither is wealth, power, or knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People here or everywhere else often complain about how Iraqis place sectarian strife and loyalty above loyalty to country. This is exactly the same thing that the Left and their allies place top loyalty on.</p>
<p>So why do people bicker and so forth? Because that is how humans are. Civilization is no cure for it. Neither is wealth, power, or knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/08/18/why-fight/#comment-13966</link>
		<dc:creator>ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a domestic insurgency and there is a foreign insurgency, Mike. Both are important and both affect the other.

It is not a question of which is more dangerous or which is more powerful. There have been numerous times in our past that the strong fortification that could not be breached by the besieging barbarian army outside, had a traitor inside that was weaker than both yet still opened the gates for the barbarians. Weakness and strength are not the ultimate deciding factors for victory or defeat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a domestic insurgency and there is a foreign insurgency, Mike. Both are important and both affect the other.</p>
<p>It is not a question of which is more dangerous or which is more powerful. There have been numerous times in our past that the strong fortification that could not be breached by the besieging barbarian army outside, had a traitor inside that was weaker than both yet still opened the gates for the barbarians. Weakness and strength are not the ultimate deciding factors for victory or defeat.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/08/18/why-fight/#comment-13969</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was perhaps too pointed to be fair.  The jihadists are the leftists "temporarily useful allies", not friends, but that's the main point of the saying, really.

"The War On Terror Is Just a Bumper Sticker."  Sound familiar?  The real enemy is the creator of those bumper stickers, the evil power structure within America itself.  Is it any wonder that we on the right view the leftists as deeply unAmerican, and hateful of America?

To be fair: How many of us on the right view the left as a worse threat to America than the Islamic jihadists?  Mother Sheehan, the NY Times, the NBC media conglomerate, Hollywood liberals, the vast cadre of leftists professors in the universities...  I hope a huge majority of us on the right view the jihadists as the worst enemy by far; but I'm not certain that that is true of us.

I view our left vs right struggles as internal squabbling, and I don't understand how we cannot compromise, how we cannot vote every so often and accept the resultant American meandering of vision, confident that in the end we will eventually get it right, together.  And then return to our endless internal squabbling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was perhaps too pointed to be fair.  The jihadists are the leftists &#8220;temporarily useful allies&#8221;, not friends, but that&#8217;s the main point of the saying, really.</p>
<p>&#8220;The War On Terror Is Just a Bumper Sticker.&#8221;  Sound familiar?  The real enemy is the creator of those bumper stickers, the evil power structure within America itself.  Is it any wonder that we on the right view the leftists as deeply unAmerican, and hateful of America?</p>
<p>To be fair: How many of us on the right view the left as a worse threat to America than the Islamic jihadists?  Mother Sheehan, the NY Times, the NBC media conglomerate, Hollywood liberals, the vast cadre of leftists professors in the universities&#8230;  I hope a huge majority of us on the right view the jihadists as the worst enemy by far; but I&#8217;m not certain that that is true of us.</p>
<p>I view our left vs right struggles as internal squabbling, and I don&#8217;t understand how we cannot compromise, how we cannot vote every so often and accept the resultant American meandering of vision, confident that in the end we will eventually get it right, together.  And then return to our endless internal squabbling.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/08/18/why-fight/#comment-13968</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Book's article, the attitudes of the young leftists Niek and Tom:
" To talk of freedom, in their view, was simply to spout emotionally charged rhetoric that — either naively or with cynical calculation — sugarcoated the evil reality of capitalism."

I identify with these two young men.  Before 9-11, my main concern was with the existing social order, and how resistant it was to change.  I was more of a populist and individual-rights guy than a socialist, but the evils were of those in the power structure.  Then came the wake up call of 9-11.

I realized: "There are people out there who want to kill me!  Who want to kill tens of millions like me!"  I had thought the world was civilized except for a few dark alleys; now I thought the world was still mostly savagery, and civilization is fragile, always in danger of being swamped by tides of savagery throughout this world that remains mostly uncivilized.

These two young men rejected the lesson of 9-11. (As has 'G'.)  That's their right.

For them the true enemy is still the internal power structure, "The Man".  And since the enemy of my enemy is my friend, they embrace what the radical jihadists offer: a severe shaking of the enemy power structure.  They are blind to the threat of the Islamic jihadists and they will minimize that threat constantly.  They are blind to the fact that the Islamic jihadists stand for EVERYTHING that leftists oppose.

The leftists should see, in the radical Islamist jihadists, the personification of every evil that has ever existed in leftist philosophy.  EVERY evil!  But they cannot see it.   Because the jihadists are the enemy of the "true enemy", and therefore the jihadists are their friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Book&#8217;s article, the attitudes of the young leftists Niek and Tom:<br />
&#8221; To talk of freedom, in their view, was simply to spout emotionally charged rhetoric that — either naively or with cynical calculation — sugarcoated the evil reality of capitalism.&#8221;</p>
<p>I identify with these two young men.  Before 9-11, my main concern was with the existing social order, and how resistant it was to change.  I was more of a populist and individual-rights guy than a socialist, but the evils were of those in the power structure.  Then came the wake up call of 9-11.</p>
<p>I realized: &#8220;There are people out there who want to kill me!  Who want to kill tens of millions like me!&#8221;  I had thought the world was civilized except for a few dark alleys; now I thought the world was still mostly savagery, and civilization is fragile, always in danger of being swamped by tides of savagery throughout this world that remains mostly uncivilized.</p>
<p>These two young men rejected the lesson of 9-11. (As has &#8216;G&#8217;.)  That&#8217;s their right.</p>
<p>For them the true enemy is still the internal power structure, &#8220;The Man&#8221;.  And since the enemy of my enemy is my friend, they embrace what the radical jihadists offer: a severe shaking of the enemy power structure.  They are blind to the threat of the Islamic jihadists and they will minimize that threat constantly.  They are blind to the fact that the Islamic jihadists stand for EVERYTHING that leftists oppose.</p>
<p>The leftists should see, in the radical Islamist jihadists, the personification of every evil that has ever existed in leftist philosophy.  EVERY evil!  But they cannot see it.   Because the jihadists are the enemy of the &#8220;true enemy&#8221;, and therefore the jihadists are their friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Lemieux</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/08/18/why-fight/#comment-13970</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Lemieux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm...Greg: Conservatives represent individual liberty (and responsibility), localized power and small government. Fascists, Nazis (National Socialists) and Communists support strong, centralized government,government control over the economy and social engineering to achieve a "moral" human being. The Democrat/Left supports...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;Greg: Conservatives represent individual liberty (and responsibility), localized power and small government. Fascists, Nazis (National Socialists) and Communists support strong, centralized government,government control over the economy and social engineering to achieve a &#8220;moral&#8221; human being. The Democrat/Left supports&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: D. Reid</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/08/18/why-fight/#comment-13973</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 01:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"conservatives (those who enthusiastically promoted slavery, fascism, nazism and authoritarianism in general) only respond to force. They are evil, our blogmistress included."

Greg, slavery was fought for by Democrats (Lincoln was a Republican), Nazism was creed of the German National Socialist Party, and authoritarian and fascist regimes have been comprised most notably of Socialists and Communists. Just which conservatives do you think are evil exactly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;conservatives (those who enthusiastically promoted slavery, fascism, nazism and authoritarianism in general) only respond to force. They are evil, our blogmistress included.&#8221;</p>
<p>Greg, slavery was fought for by Democrats (Lincoln was a Republican), Nazism was creed of the German National Socialist Party, and authoritarian and fascist regimes have been comprised most notably of Socialists and Communists. Just which conservatives do you think are evil exactly?</p>
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