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	<title>Comments on: Freedom, but from what?</title>
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	<description>She escaped from the belly of the liberal beast</description>
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		<title>By: Right Wing Nut House &#187; THE COUNCIL HAS SPOKEN</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/09/17/freedom-but-from-what/#comment-14845</link>
		<dc:creator>Right Wing Nut House &#187; THE COUNCIL HAS SPOKEN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 23:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The votes are in from this weeks Watcher&#8217;s Council and the winner in the Council category was yours truly for my post &#8220;Is War With Iran Now Just a Matter of Time?&#8221; Finishing a close second was &#8220;Freedom, But From What?&#8221; by Bookworm Room. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The votes are in from this weeks Watcher&#8217;s Council and the winner in the Council category was yours truly for my post &#8220;Is War With Iran Now Just a Matter of Time?&#8221; Finishing a close second was &#8220;Freedom, But From What?&#8221; by Bookworm Room. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: And now, this report from the Watcher&#8217;s Council &#171; Bookworm Room</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/09/17/freedom-but-from-what/#comment-14846</link>
		<dc:creator>And now, this report from the Watcher&#8217;s Council &#171; Bookworm Room</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we&#8217;re moving to a military confrontation with Iran. Second place, as I said, was mine for Freedom, But From What?, in which I examined the different expectations the Left and the Right have when it comes to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] we&#8217;re moving to a military confrontation with Iran. Second place, as I said, was mine for Freedom, But From What?, in which I examined the different expectations the Left and the Right have when it comes to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Glittering Eye &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Council Has Spoken!</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/09/17/freedom-but-from-what/#comment-14847</link>
		<dc:creator>The Glittering Eye &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Council Has Spoken!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] House&#8217;s post, “Is War With Iran Now Just a Matter of Time?”. Second place honors went to Bookworm Room&#8217;s &#8220;Freedom, But From [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] House&#8217;s post, “Is War With Iran Now Just a Matter of Time?”. Second place honors went to Bookworm Room&#8217;s &#8220;Freedom, But From [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/09/17/freedom-but-from-what/#comment-14848</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ymarsakar,
Granted, all machines, mechanical and social, will breakdown without appropriate maintenance. I view a capitalist democracy as less likely to fail than most systems of national operation because the individual is responsible for his own welfare and has the power to provide for himself. Remove that responsibility, ie with government handouts, and then the power to care for oneself is eroded, and then the votes go to the power hungry.
It is always interesting.
Al</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ymarsakar,<br />
Granted, all machines, mechanical and social, will breakdown without appropriate maintenance. I view a capitalist democracy as less likely to fail than most systems of national operation because the individual is responsible for his own welfare and has the power to provide for himself. Remove that responsibility, ie with government handouts, and then the power to care for oneself is eroded, and then the votes go to the power hungry.<br />
It is always interesting.<br />
Al</p>
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		<title>By: The Glittering Eye &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Eye on the Watcher&#8217;s Council</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/09/17/freedom-but-from-what/#comment-14849</link>
		<dc:creator>The Glittering Eye &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Eye on the Watcher&#8217;s Council</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bookworm Room, “Freedom, But From What?” [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/09/17/freedom-but-from-what/#comment-14850</link>
		<dc:creator>ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al, I am not under the illusion that democracy or republicanism is a solidified defense against corruption and societal destruction. While systems built upon the desire to guarantee liberty is stronger and less prone to breakdowns, it is still a machine, one with human gears and cogs. Compared to other systems, democracies and republics simply spread the power and responsibility around so that when the state executes a policy or a person, everyone is to blame, rather than it being only the responsibility of one family, one elite, one oligarchy, one man, etc. However, there is always going to be people that want more than their fair share of power and importance. John Kerry, Soros, etc.

People being in charge is the problem, at the basic fundamental level. Since if gods, angels, devils, or machines were in charge, we wouldn't have the things that JJ listed. We would have different problems, yes, but not the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al, I am not under the illusion that democracy or republicanism is a solidified defense against corruption and societal destruction. While systems built upon the desire to guarantee liberty is stronger and less prone to breakdowns, it is still a machine, one with human gears and cogs. Compared to other systems, democracies and republics simply spread the power and responsibility around so that when the state executes a policy or a person, everyone is to blame, rather than it being only the responsibility of one family, one elite, one oligarchy, one man, etc. However, there is always going to be people that want more than their fair share of power and importance. John Kerry, Soros, etc.</p>
<p>People being in charge is the problem, at the basic fundamental level. Since if gods, angels, devils, or machines were in charge, we wouldn&#8217;t have the things that JJ listed. We would have different problems, yes, but not the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert J. Avrech</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/09/17/freedom-but-from-what/#comment-14851</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert J. Avrech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. You do not understand the inconsistency in the liberal position. You make the mistake of seeking consistency. Liberals are crypto communists, hence they support socialized medicine. They oppose programs such as the Patriot Act because it protects the citizenry from foreign enemies, who liberals do not believe in foreign enemies. Conservatives fear jihadists. Liberals fear so-called global warming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. You do not understand the inconsistency in the liberal position. You make the mistake of seeking consistency. Liberals are crypto communists, hence they support socialized medicine. They oppose programs such as the Patriot Act because it protects the citizenry from foreign enemies, who liberals do not believe in foreign enemies. Conservatives fear jihadists. Liberals fear so-called global warming.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Lemieux</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/09/17/freedom-but-from-what/#comment-14852</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Lemieux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 12:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good link, YM...been there before! Spent time looking for "About YM..
" however with no success.

What's the problem with YM's point, Al? Government dependency has long been used by politicians to "buy" votes - what the government gives, the government can also take away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good link, YM&#8230;been there before! Spent time looking for &#8220;About YM..<br />
&#8221; however with no success.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the problem with YM&#8217;s point, Al? Government dependency has long been used by politicians to &#8220;buy&#8221; votes - what the government gives, the government can also take away.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/09/17/freedom-but-from-what/#comment-14853</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ymarsakar, are you serious?
Al</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ymarsakar, are you serious?<br />
Al</p>
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		<title>By: ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/09/17/freedom-but-from-what/#comment-14854</link>
		<dc:creator>ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that the people are in charge, JJ, is the problem. Since it simply motivates people who want power to buy it with welfare or benefits or loot, in return for votes. Votes equal power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that the people are in charge, JJ, is the problem. Since it simply motivates people who want power to buy it with welfare or benefits or loot, in return for votes. Votes equal power.</p>
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