Comments on: Down with stereotypes! http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/09/21/down-with-stereotypes/ She escaped from the belly of the liberal beast Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:57:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: zhombre http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/09/21/down-with-stereotypes/#comment-14991 zhombre Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:03:25 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1854#comment-14991 Not anymore. Not anymore.

]]> By: greg http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/09/21/down-with-stereotypes/#comment-14990 greg Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:50:03 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1854#comment-14990 Gringo, being new here, you should know that Z-Ray is my most avid reader, who memorizes whole passages (or, at least, choice phrases) that I post. Gringo, being new here, you should know that Z-Ray is my most avid reader, who memorizes whole passages (or, at least, choice phrases) that I post.

]]> By: zhombre http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/09/21/down-with-stereotypes/#comment-14989 zhombre Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:31:54 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1854#comment-14989 Respond to the nitwit if you want but you're wasting your time. Respond to the nitwit if you want but you’re wasting your time.

]]> By: ymarsakar http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/09/21/down-with-stereotypes/#comment-14992 ymarsakar Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:20:12 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1854#comment-14992 Notice how g frames things so that theocratic ideology is intrinsically bound up with Evangelicals, to which Book's lack of admittance of such on this basic axiom of life, explicitly declares g right and Book wrong. Notice how g frames things so that theocratic ideology is intrinsically bound up with Evangelicals, to which Book’s lack of admittance of such on this basic axiom of life, explicitly declares g right and Book wrong.

]]> By: ymarsakar http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/09/21/down-with-stereotypes/#comment-14993 ymarsakar Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:36:23 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1854#comment-14993 g still lives in his anti-Book fantasy land, I see. g still lives in his anti-Book fantasy land, I see.

]]> By: Gringo http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/09/21/down-with-stereotypes/#comment-14994 Gringo Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:28:53 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1854#comment-14994 Greg still refuses to answer the six questions I gave him regarding his claim about <i> "nationalistic theocracy." <i> Sources? What are sources? That is something a mean old bag of a teacher requires of a 9th grader's research paper! Greg still refuses to answer the six questions I gave him regarding his claim about “nationalistic theocracy.”

Sources? What are sources? That is something a mean old bag of a teacher requires of a 9th grader’s research paper!

]]> By: greg http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/09/21/down-with-stereotypes/#comment-14995 greg Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:59:37 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1854#comment-14995 Work for a day, and look what happens. I come back and have comments waiting for me from DQ and my buddy, T. I won't belabor this (and there's hardly any point, since this thread is scheduled for archiving), but DQ noted: "Why do you make it sound like you think she supports such a thing?" Answer: I only read what she writes. Book's words, which I quoted earlier, clearly link her support for Bush with her support for religion. The two are intertwined in her mind, along with her notions concerning bugaboo liberals who, by her thought, hate both Bush and religion. Being a longtime reader of Book's writing, I recall that she has posted several blog articles describing her scorn for those who attribute theocratic malevolence to Christian Evangelicals. Although, she has not -- to my knowledge -- ever evaluated/acknowledged the theocratic policies and theocratic theology of Evangelicals. Nor has she considered the divergence from our American constitutional governance that Evangelicals advocate. At first blush, one might merely conclude that Book’s views are unfortunate and unthinking. Except that we know Book prides herself on her thoughtful points-of-view. So, her admixture of nationalism and support of *American* theocrats is hardly by chance. Work for a day, and look what happens. I come back and have comments waiting for me from DQ and my buddy, T. I won’t belabor this (and there’s hardly any point, since this thread is scheduled for archiving), but DQ noted: “Why do you make it sound like you think she supports such a thing?”

Answer: I only read what she writes. Book’s words, which I quoted earlier, clearly link her support for Bush with her support for religion. The two are intertwined in her mind, along with her notions concerning bugaboo liberals who, by her thought, hate both Bush and religion.

Being a longtime reader of Book’s writing, I recall that she has posted several blog articles describing her scorn for those who attribute theocratic malevolence to Christian Evangelicals. Although, she has not — to my knowledge — ever evaluated/acknowledged the theocratic policies and theocratic theology of Evangelicals. Nor has she considered the divergence from our American constitutional governance that Evangelicals advocate.

At first blush, one might merely conclude that Book’s views are unfortunate and unthinking. Except that we know Book prides herself on her thoughtful points-of-view. So, her admixture of nationalism and support of *American* theocrats is hardly by chance.

]]> By: ymarsakar http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/09/21/down-with-stereotypes/#comment-14997 ymarsakar Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:56:30 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1854#comment-14997 IT is true that love of country is directly related to love of family for the country protects your family when you cannot, but g is refering to how all ideologies except g's self-righteous view of the world, is dysfunctional. g sees Republicans as using religion to justify rules and laws and policy, backed up by military esque nationalism bent on world hegemony. IT is true that love of country is directly related to love of family for the country protects your family when you cannot, but g is refering to how all ideologies except g’s self-righteous view of the world, is dysfunctional.

g sees Republicans as using religion to justify rules and laws and policy, backed up by military esque nationalism bent on world hegemony.

]]> By: ymarsakar http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/09/21/down-with-stereotypes/#comment-14996 ymarsakar Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:48:23 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1854#comment-14996 It is the same in that they are both beliefs and that they are also both things you believe in that are greater than yourself. It is the same in that they are both beliefs and that they are also both things you believe in that are greater than yourself.

]]> By: Jason Taylor http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/09/21/down-with-stereotypes/#comment-14998 Jason Taylor Wed, 26 Sep 2007 06:28:12 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=1854#comment-14998 "g means that nationalism and religion are the same things. Thus patriotism or love of America is the same thing as believing in a god or God. Making you no different from say, the Islamic Jihad’s love of Allah. Narcissists do believe in nations or rather nationalism, or even god. They believe, however, only so long as that belief benefits them. So if God doesn’t perform miracles for the narcissist, it is then time for the narcissist to believe in something else of more benefit. Often you have leaders, like cult leaders, who figured out how to use god to benefit themselves personally. That’s one way to make profitable the belief in god or something else spiritual or mystical. Concernng nationalism: the belief in nationalism follows the same rules. So it is easy to see why g believes that the combination of nationalism and religion in Nazism is such a useful thing. He would be a part of such movements or would have tried to become a leader of such, if only such systems were not proven to be fragile and ultimately defeated by American power." Why is patriotism the same as religion? Loving your mother, father, girlfriend, wife, or for that matter your dog isn't. Why is loving your country unique? It is true that patriotism can become idolatry but so can anything else. “g means that nationalism and religion are the same things. Thus patriotism or love of America is the same thing as believing in a god or God. Making you no different from say, the Islamic Jihad’s love of Allah.

Narcissists do believe in nations or rather nationalism, or even god. They believe, however, only so long as that belief benefits them. So if God doesn’t perform miracles for the narcissist, it is then time for the narcissist to believe in something else of more benefit. Often you have leaders, like cult leaders, who figured out how to use god to benefit themselves personally. That’s one way to make profitable the belief in god or something else spiritual or mystical. Concernng nationalism: the belief in nationalism follows the same rules. So it is easy to see why g believes that the combination of nationalism and religion in Nazism is such a useful thing. He would be a part of such movements or would have tried to become a leader of such, if only such systems were not proven to be fragile and ultimately defeated by American power.”

Why is patriotism the same as religion? Loving your mother, father, girlfriend, wife, or for that matter your dog isn’t. Why is loving your country unique? It is true that patriotism can become idolatry but so can anything else.

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