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		<title>By: blah</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/11/24/sad-news-out-of-australia/#comment-17383</link>
		<dc:creator>blah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My work allows me to know things about politics and policy that most people dont want to know about.  I voted for Labor and thank god that they got in. Howard used a loophole in our constitution to hijack the industrial relations system that he had no business being involved in - this has only been running a short time and is causing many problems.  He actually trippled our foreign debt buying things like broken 2nd hand US military equipment.  Our economy being strong has NOTHING to do with politics we have a boom/bust economy due to us being so reliant on mining exporting we have been in a boom due to increased global need for uranium and coal among other things.  The boom is expected to be over by 2010 and Labor will need to change things dramatically if the economy is to buffer a mining bust at that time.  Howard was in charge of our economy (Treasurer) during the last bust in early 80's when interest rates were more than tripple what they are now.  Was he mismanaging the economy or was it natural adjustments to our global market??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My work allows me to know things about politics and policy that most people dont want to know about.  I voted for Labor and thank god that they got in. Howard used a loophole in our constitution to hijack the industrial relations system that he had no business being involved in - this has only been running a short time and is causing many problems.  He actually trippled our foreign debt buying things like broken 2nd hand US military equipment.  Our economy being strong has NOTHING to do with politics we have a boom/bust economy due to us being so reliant on mining exporting we have been in a boom due to increased global need for uranium and coal among other things.  The boom is expected to be over by 2010 and Labor will need to change things dramatically if the economy is to buffer a mining bust at that time.  Howard was in charge of our economy (Treasurer) during the last bust in early 80&#8217;s when interest rates were more than tripple what they are now.  Was he mismanaging the economy or was it natural adjustments to our global market??</p>
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		<title>By: Webloggin - Blog Archive &#187; John Howard Defeated - Aussies Turn Left</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/11/24/sad-news-out-of-australia/#comment-17375</link>
		<dc:creator>Webloggin - Blog Archive &#187; John Howard Defeated - Aussies Turn Left</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: expat</title>
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		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Ledeen's blog at Pajamas Media has a short post on the election. He says that Rudd is planning to increase the Afghanistan contingent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Ledeen&#8217;s blog at Pajamas Media has a short post on the election. He says that Rudd is planning to increase the Afghanistan contingent.</p>
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		<title>By: exploringchaos</title>
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		<dc:creator>exploringchaos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly preferential voting keeps our government in a two party system, allowing for little choice, when you’re unsatisfied with the status quo, the grass is always greener and labour; the voting choice of students and unionists suddenly becomes an option for those who would normally sit on the fence or vote with what they know.

I'm an Australian living in the UK and I'm honestly shocked at the bad feeling towards John Howard that is coming out of my country. People don't take the time to read about party core policies and tend to be sucked in by sensationalism during the campaign and all too soon they forget what the labour party has done in their previous reigns of power.

Change for the sake of change rarely bodes well and I hope the Australia that I return to is not lessened by this choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly preferential voting keeps our government in a two party system, allowing for little choice, when you’re unsatisfied with the status quo, the grass is always greener and labour; the voting choice of students and unionists suddenly becomes an option for those who would normally sit on the fence or vote with what they know.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m an Australian living in the UK and I&#8217;m honestly shocked at the bad feeling towards John Howard that is coming out of my country. People don&#8217;t take the time to read about party core policies and tend to be sucked in by sensationalism during the campaign and all too soon they forget what the labour party has done in their previous reigns of power.</p>
<p>Change for the sake of change rarely bodes well and I hope the Australia that I return to is not lessened by this choice.</p>
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		<title>By: expat</title>
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		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 00:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect that the drought may have given the climate change issue greater weight, even if only in a hedge your bets sense. I heard or read somewhere that Rudd was talking about sending more troops to Afghanistan. If that's true, it's great news.

ymar,
Don't forget the problems caused by multiple parties, which necessitate strange coalitions in which single-issue or utopian parties can push through legislation not supported by the majority.  The German Greens, who are now out  of power  and back in cloud cuckoo land, had a party conference this weekend. The voted for a minimum income standard and a new party logo. Guess which will be realized? Oh well, the graphic artists have to make a living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that the drought may have given the climate change issue greater weight, even if only in a hedge your bets sense. I heard or read somewhere that Rudd was talking about sending more troops to Afghanistan. If that&#8217;s true, it&#8217;s great news.</p>
<p>ymar,<br />
Don&#8217;t forget the problems caused by multiple parties, which necessitate strange coalitions in which single-issue or utopian parties can push through legislation not supported by the majority.  The German Greens, who are now out  of power  and back in cloud cuckoo land, had a party conference this weekend. The voted for a minimum income standard and a new party logo. Guess which will be realized? Oh well, the graphic artists have to make a living.</p>
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		<title>By: ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/11/24/sad-news-out-of-australia/#comment-17379</link>
		<dc:creator>ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 21:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;So apparently Australians are happy to go for grandstanding and showboating in the face of actually effective political leadership.&lt;/b&gt;

No, I just think the people of Australia have no other choice given the fact that they are prevented from protecting themselves by the government. They can only look  towards government benefits and protection now, Book. They have been trained, so to speak. And given Howard's revitalization of the economy, folks believe that the government can afford to protect and care for the citizens at large.

A strong culture of individualism and independency would put paid to Leftism and socialism. However, that is very hard to do when the citizens of Australia are no longer allowed to protect themselves from thugs and criminals. If a criminal comes at you with his bare hands, and you beat him unconscious with a bat, you are the one that is going to get into legal trouble.

It is that principle of "disproportionate force", Book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>So apparently Australians are happy to go for grandstanding and showboating in the face of actually effective political leadership.</b></p>
<p>No, I just think the people of Australia have no other choice given the fact that they are prevented from protecting themselves by the government. They can only look  towards government benefits and protection now, Book. They have been trained, so to speak. And given Howard&#8217;s revitalization of the economy, folks believe that the government can afford to protect and care for the citizens at large.</p>
<p>A strong culture of individualism and independency would put paid to Leftism and socialism. However, that is very hard to do when the citizens of Australia are no longer allowed to protect themselves from thugs and criminals. If a criminal comes at you with his bare hands, and you beat him unconscious with a bat, you are the one that is going to get into legal trouble.</p>
<p>It is that principle of &#8220;disproportionate force&#8221;, Book.</p>
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		<title>By: ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 21:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh btw, the Left favors Parliamentary systems over the US system because the Left likes free will. Except, well, their version of free will is based upon only the elites having free will to decide what is best for folks. So instead of the people electing their executive leader, a bunch of political representatives get together to decide who gets the spoils of the party's victory.

This is prefered by people, you see.

It is just too crude to have individuals decide who the best leader is based upon the merits of an actual leader, as opposed to a party's platform of policies. They might actually vote non-Left if given a choice of strong authoritarian discipline along with social welfare benefits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh btw, the Left favors Parliamentary systems over the US system because the Left likes free will. Except, well, their version of free will is based upon only the elites having free will to decide what is best for folks. So instead of the people electing their executive leader, a bunch of political representatives get together to decide who gets the spoils of the party&#8217;s victory.</p>
<p>This is prefered by people, you see.</p>
<p>It is just too crude to have individuals decide who the best leader is based upon the merits of an actual leader, as opposed to a party&#8217;s platform of policies. They might actually vote non-Left if given a choice of strong authoritarian discipline along with social welfare benefits.</p>
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		<title>By: ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/11/24/sad-news-out-of-australia/#comment-17381</link>
		<dc:creator>ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Australia, because they have a parliamentary system, cannot independently elect their Prime Minister. If they want the PM to stay as is, they have to re-elect his party in enough districts so that the PM's party can hold a majority of MPs.

So, even if people wanted to keep good old Howard because of the economy, it just wouldn't work. Not when the natural impulse on the part of people is to vote themselves more benefits in an age of economic boom. And even if it isn't, the Labour party will vote in more benefits for the people whether the people want them or not.

As the drug dealer always says, first taste is free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Australia, because they have a parliamentary system, cannot independently elect their Prime Minister. If they want the PM to stay as is, they have to re-elect his party in enough districts so that the PM&#8217;s party can hold a majority of MPs.</p>
<p>So, even if people wanted to keep good old Howard because of the economy, it just wouldn&#8217;t work. Not when the natural impulse on the part of people is to vote themselves more benefits in an age of economic boom. And even if it isn&#8217;t, the Labour party will vote in more benefits for the people whether the people want them or not.</p>
<p>As the drug dealer always says, first taste is free.</p>
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		<title>By: Webloggin - Blog Archive &#187; Sad News Out Of Australia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Webloggin - Blog Archive &#187; Sad News Out Of Australia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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