Comments on: Unclear on the marriage concept http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/11/26/unclear-on-the-marriage-concept/ She escaped from the belly of the liberal beast Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:39:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: ymarsakar http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/11/26/unclear-on-the-marriage-concept/#comment-17461 ymarsakar Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:14:32 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=2175#comment-17461 Now that is the very definition of a modern major useful idiot. Now that is the very definition of a modern major useful idiot.

]]> By: Michael Phillips http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/11/26/unclear-on-the-marriage-concept/#comment-17462 Michael Phillips Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:12:46 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=2175#comment-17462 You had the correct suspicions about Evergreen College. That is where Rachel Corrie graduated. She was the subject of a play in London. Ms Corrie deliberately got in the way of an Israeli bulldozer in Gaza in 2003 and became a martyr for the peace movement and the Palestinian cause. The group Ms Corrie belonged to, the International Solidarity Movement, became persona non grata in Israel. The original news article I read gave the name of the Evergreen professor who taught Ms Corrie about the peace movement and the reason to be a martyr for the Palestinians. You had the correct suspicions about Evergreen College.

That is where Rachel Corrie graduated. She was the subject of a play in London. Ms Corrie deliberately got in the way of an Israeli bulldozer in Gaza in 2003 and became a martyr for the peace movement and the Palestinian cause.

The group Ms Corrie belonged to, the International Solidarity Movement, became persona non grata in Israel.

The original news article I read gave the name of the Evergreen professor who taught Ms Corrie about the peace movement and the reason to be a martyr for the Palestinians.

]]> By: Trimegistus http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/11/26/unclear-on-the-marriage-concept/#comment-17460 Trimegistus Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:15:35 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=2175#comment-17460 Book: It seems that Prof. Coontz's essay could be summarized very succinctly: She's against marriage, except for gay people. Book:

It seems that Prof. Coontz’s essay could be summarized very succinctly: She’s against marriage, except for gay people.

]]> By: SGT Dave http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/11/26/unclear-on-the-marriage-concept/#comment-17463 SGT Dave Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:06:47 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=2175#comment-17463 All, My wife and I began co-habitating about one year prior to our (courthouse) wedding and a little more than two years prior to our (church) wedding. Her father and my parents were privy to the first ceremony; most of our remaining relatives have no idea that the anniversary they have on their calendar is a year and two months off. We only started living together after we had decided to marry; the courthouse ceremony happened because my wife was getting ready to lose health-care coverage (small business exemption to health care requirements for her employer). We had known we were getting married at the start of co-habitation - we started planning the church wedding using money saved from rent and utilities. The bottom line is this - we had a choice based on benefits (health, life, and other) and chose to do the wedding instead of just "living together". It has been a great seven years with two kids now; those two rascals are the center of our world. Though I am thousands of miles away I still try to stay involved via phone, email, snail mail, and video. The benefits for our kids and for our stability, especially in light of this (second) deployment have been immeasurable. If we weren't married, we would no longer be together (and it would have ended when I left for Iraq in 2005). So the others need to stop complaining and do what is necessary instead of trying to take something they are unwilling to earn. SGT Dave "Love is what remains after you have hit bottom; it is what will bring you to your feet again." All,
My wife and I began co-habitating about one year prior to our (courthouse) wedding and a little more than two years prior to our (church) wedding. Her father and my parents were privy to the first ceremony; most of our remaining relatives have no idea that the anniversary they have on their calendar is a year and two months off.
We only started living together after we had decided to marry; the courthouse ceremony happened because my wife was getting ready to lose health-care coverage (small business exemption to health care requirements for her employer). We had known we were getting married at the start of co-habitation - we started planning the church wedding using money saved from rent and utilities.
The bottom line is this - we had a choice based on benefits (health, life, and other) and chose to do the wedding instead of just “living together”. It has been a great seven years with two kids now; those two rascals are the center of our world. Though I am thousands of miles away I still try to stay involved via phone, email, snail mail, and video.
The benefits for our kids and for our stability, especially in light of this (second) deployment have been immeasurable. If we weren’t married, we would no longer be together (and it would have ended when I left for Iraq in 2005).
So the others need to stop complaining and do what is necessary instead of trying to take something they are unwilling to earn.
SGT Dave
“Love is what remains after you have hit bottom; it is what will bring you to your feet again.”

]]> By: expat http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/11/26/unclear-on-the-marriage-concept/#comment-17464 expat Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:04:16 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=2175#comment-17464 There is a case now before the courts in Germany that you would love. A woman had a relationship for 10 years with a married man who informed her from the beginning that he woud not leave his wife and he did not want children with her. After 10 years, she became pregnant, he left, and after paternity was established he paid child support . He refused contact with the child because he didn't want to endanger his marriage. The son is now 8 , and the mother is trying to force the father to interact with him. Only the mother's side is being reported to date. How are the courts supposed to deal with such crud? I fear it will only get worse if marriage becomes more wishy washy. People will be less willing to take responsibility for their own lousy choices and the kids will suffer. I see no reason for society to encourage narcissistic behaviour. There is a case now before the courts in Germany that you would love. A woman had a relationship for 10 years with a married man who informed her from the beginning that he woud not leave his wife and he did not want children with her. After 10 years, she became pregnant, he left, and after paternity was established he paid child support . He refused contact with the child because he didn’t want to endanger his marriage. The son is now 8 , and the mother is trying to force the father to interact with him. Only the mother’s side is being reported to date.

How are the courts supposed to deal with such crud? I fear it will only get worse if marriage becomes more wishy washy. People will be less willing to take responsibility for their own lousy choices and the kids will suffer. I see no reason for society to encourage narcissistic behaviour.

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