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	<description>She escaped from the belly of the liberal beast</description>
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		<title>By: ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/12/18/oh-yes/#comment-18092</link>
		<dc:creator>ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Book, isn't g just a cuddly little cute hamster that is soooo soft?

He'll be even softer, I promise, once I put 100 pounds of force on his back. Going to needing hamster steak recipes then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Book, isn&#8217;t g just a cuddly little cute hamster that is soooo soft?</p>
<p>He&#8217;ll be even softer, I promise, once I put 100 pounds of force on his back. Going to needing hamster steak recipes then.</p>
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		<title>By: ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/12/18/oh-yes/#comment-18093</link>
		<dc:creator>ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marguerite, I hope you have noticed by now that g has never responded to one of my comments or even acknowledge their existence, these last few months to half a year. He responds to Z, so I am getting a trifle miffed about this, Marguerite. Do I not have healthy veins, Marguerite? Do I not have the life energies that g needs for sustenance? Am I not the equal of any other cattle for the slaughter?

As I said, I'm feeling a bit miffed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marguerite, I hope you have noticed by now that g has never responded to one of my comments or even acknowledge their existence, these last few months to half a year. He responds to Z, so I am getting a trifle miffed about this, Marguerite. Do I not have healthy veins, Marguerite? Do I not have the life energies that g needs for sustenance? Am I not the equal of any other cattle for the slaughter?</p>
<p>As I said, I&#8217;m feeling a bit miffed.</p>
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		<title>By: helenl</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/12/18/oh-yes/#comment-18085</link>
		<dc:creator>helenl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved them.</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/12/18/oh-yes/#comment-18084</link>
		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh, sorry that duty called, and I had to be away last night. As the dust clears, I'll only point out to the Divine Miss M that I know exactly "how insulting it is to have someone say ‘let me spell it out for you.’ and ‘maybe that’s over your head’".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh, sorry that duty called, and I had to be away last night. As the dust clears, I&#8217;ll only point out to the Divine Miss M that I know exactly &#8220;how insulting it is to have someone say ‘let me spell it out for you.’ and ‘maybe that’s over your head’&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Synova</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/12/18/oh-yes/#comment-18086</link>
		<dc:creator>Synova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the first one to be a little too 1950's to be really funny.   The second is very funny (as is the male "paint my house" version.)

g is, dare I say, typical.

There have been two main approaches to the traditional inequities of gender roles.   To broadly generalize, liberals have re-enforced the perception expressed by the husband in the first joke.   The work of raising children and taking on domestic chores is devalued.   Just look at how g devalues traditional roles for a good example.   The liberal approach seems to value only the traditional male role and devaluing the female role but insist that everyone help out.   Raising children is devalued and even *having* children is devalued, though people generally still like to have them the having them isn't a contribution but is a personal indulgence.

The other "work around" has been to recognize the value contributed to the family by women and endeavor to  emphasize the equality of that traditional contribution and view a marriage as a partnership of two people working for the same goals, particularly the importance of raising children,  regardless of differences in the roles they undertake.   Everyone helps out in this version because the work needing done is valuable and important work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the first one to be a little too 1950&#8217;s to be really funny.   The second is very funny (as is the male &#8220;paint my house&#8221; version.)</p>
<p>g is, dare I say, typical.</p>
<p>There have been two main approaches to the traditional inequities of gender roles.   To broadly generalize, liberals have re-enforced the perception expressed by the husband in the first joke.   The work of raising children and taking on domestic chores is devalued.   Just look at how g devalues traditional roles for a good example.   The liberal approach seems to value only the traditional male role and devaluing the female role but insist that everyone help out.   Raising children is devalued and even *having* children is devalued, though people generally still like to have them the having them isn&#8217;t a contribution but is a personal indulgence.</p>
<p>The other &#8220;work around&#8221; has been to recognize the value contributed to the family by women and endeavor to  emphasize the equality of that traditional contribution and view a marriage as a partnership of two people working for the same goals, particularly the importance of raising children,  regardless of differences in the roles they undertake.   Everyone helps out in this version because the work needing done is valuable and important work.</p>
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		<title>By: ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/12/18/oh-yes/#comment-18087</link>
		<dc:creator>ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 02:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;#
Marguerite, on December 18th, 2007 at 5:58 pm Said:

I find them both very funny every time I hear/read them and don’t see how on earth their humor rests on an idological bent instead of upon the kind of quirky truth that men AND women can see and laugh at in themselves and each other.
&lt;/b&gt;

Laughing at oneself is a function of self-discipline and self-respect. When you don't have any, Marguerite, then you are likely to erupt in CartoonJihad like rages. Teddy Mohammed anyone?</description>
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Marguerite, on December 18th, 2007 at 5:58 pm Said:</p>
<p>I find them both very funny every time I hear/read them and don’t see how on earth their humor rests on an idological bent instead of upon the kind of quirky truth that men AND women can see and laugh at in themselves and each other.<br />
</b></p>
<p>Laughing at oneself is a function of self-discipline and self-respect. When you don&#8217;t have any, Marguerite, then you are likely to erupt in CartoonJihad like rages. Teddy Mohammed anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/12/18/oh-yes/#comment-18089</link>
		<dc:creator>ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 02:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>g has become the source of the fun. Even though the joke is at his expense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>g has become the source of the fun. Even though the joke is at his expense.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookworm</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/12/18/oh-yes/#comment-18088</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 01:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we're on the wrong track about Greg.  The anger, the absence of humor, the misogyny that  intermittently bursts forth, and the chronic condescension were certainly hints, but he gave it away when he tried to explain the joke:  Greg is an academic, possibly in the fields of sociology or wymen's studies.  That being the case, God help him, us and his students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we&#8217;re on the wrong track about Greg.  The anger, the absence of humor, the misogyny that  intermittently bursts forth, and the chronic condescension were certainly hints, but he gave it away when he tried to explain the joke:  Greg is an academic, possibly in the fields of sociology or wymen&#8217;s studies.  That being the case, God help him, us and his students.</p>
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		<title>By: judyrose</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/12/18/oh-yes/#comment-18091</link>
		<dc:creator>judyrose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 01:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>zhombre, you've just solved the mystery. Greg is 14 years old! Explains everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zhombre, you&#8217;ve just solved the mystery. Greg is 14 years old! Explains everything.</p>
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		<title>By: zhombre</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/12/18/oh-yes/#comment-18090</link>
		<dc:creator>zhombre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 01:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Responding to Greg is a waste of time.  And calling him a man is giving him the benefit of the doubt.  Mature men don't write such rubbish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Responding to Greg is a waste of time.  And calling him a man is giving him the benefit of the doubt.  Mature men don&#8217;t write such rubbish.</p>
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