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	<title>Comments on: Bloody Mary&#8217;s revenge</title>
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	<description>She escaped from the belly of the liberal beast</description>
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		<title>By: johnfromcolumbus</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/12/22/bloody-marys-revenge/#comment-18293</link>
		<dc:creator>johnfromcolumbus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>benning - I call that sort of Christian a “Christmas Christian”.

Many of those and "Easter Christians" out there.

I think in the Bible somewhere it calls that sort of christian, "luke warm".  IIRC, it goes on to say the "luke warm" will be rejected by god.  (paraphrasing)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>benning - I call that sort of Christian a “Christmas Christian”.</p>
<p>Many of those and &#8220;Easter Christians&#8221; out there.</p>
<p>I think in the Bible somewhere it calls that sort of christian, &#8220;luke warm&#8221;.  IIRC, it goes on to say the &#8220;luke warm&#8221; will be rejected by god.  (paraphrasing)</p>
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		<title>By: zhombre</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/12/22/bloody-marys-revenge/#comment-18294</link>
		<dc:creator>zhombre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Visit Wal-Mart Cathedral to fulfill all your religious and spiritual needs.  We offer a selection of 800 Gods to choose from.

Quality deities, everyday low prices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Visit Wal-Mart Cathedral to fulfill all your religious and spiritual needs.  We offer a selection of 800 Gods to choose from.</p>
<p>Quality deities, everyday low prices.</p>
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		<title>By: benning</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/12/22/bloody-marys-revenge/#comment-18295</link>
		<dc:creator>benning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the Archbishop of Canterbury being such a atheistic blowhard and a secularist, it shouldn't surprise anybody that the Church of England is growing feeble. Yet, this is the place that created American religious fervor. While Americans grabbed it and have hung on for centuries, the Brits have pretty much abandoned their Faith completely save for gowing through the motions. I call that sort of Christian a "Christmas Christian".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the Archbishop of Canterbury being such a atheistic blowhard and a secularist, it shouldn&#8217;t surprise anybody that the Church of England is growing feeble. Yet, this is the place that created American religious fervor. While Americans grabbed it and have hung on for centuries, the Brits have pretty much abandoned their Faith completely save for gowing through the motions. I call that sort of Christian a &#8220;Christmas Christian&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/12/22/bloody-marys-revenge/#comment-18311</link>
		<dc:creator>ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 20:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;But what is wrong with THOSE people when they have over 800 Gods to choose from . It must be nice to have it solved , I’m still working on it !!!&lt;/b&gt;

You mean those that believe in the Pantheon of the UN and Gore the Gaia Savior?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>But what is wrong with THOSE people when they have over 800 Gods to choose from . It must be nice to have it solved , I’m still working on it !!!</b></p>
<p>You mean those that believe in the Pantheon of the UN and Gore the Gaia Savior?</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Lemieux</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/12/22/bloody-marys-revenge/#comment-18310</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Lemieux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 04:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And a Merry Christmas to each and every one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And a Merry Christmas to each and every one!</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Lemieux</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/12/22/bloody-marys-revenge/#comment-18304</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Lemieux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 13:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, Swampacreage...no offense meant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, Swampacreage&#8230;no offense meant!</p>
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		<title>By: Trends Update! &#187; bloody mary</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/12/22/bloody-marys-revenge/#comment-18296</link>
		<dc:creator>Trends Update! &#187; bloody mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 21:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Catholic parents, she too was staunchly Catholic. By the time she was about 16, however, &#8230; credit : [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Catholic parents, she too was staunchly Catholic. By the time she was about 16, however, &#8230; credit : [...]</p>
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		<title>By: swampacreage</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/12/22/bloody-marys-revenge/#comment-18297</link>
		<dc:creator>swampacreage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny. You can call me Swami,Swamster,Swampacreage, The Swampmobile ,The Swamparator BUT DON"T YOU GO A CALLING ME SWAMPY  . . . but I digress  . .  sorry ,back to the point .There is no such thing as atheists but there are God free people. But  what is wrong with THOSE people when they have over 800 Gods to choose from . It must be nice to have it solved , I'm still working on it  !!!  Hey I bet ole Henry V111 must be moonwalking and doing back flips in his grave  when he  heard that one of his better daughters (Liz baby) brought back protestanism to England.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny. You can call me Swami,Swamster,Swampacreage, The Swampmobile ,The Swamparator BUT DON&#8221;T YOU GO A CALLING ME SWAMPY  . . . but I digress  . .  sorry ,back to the point .There is no such thing as atheists but there are God free people. But  what is wrong with THOSE people when they have over 800 Gods to choose from . It must be nice to have it solved , I&#8217;m still working on it  !!!  Hey I bet ole Henry V111 must be moonwalking and doing back flips in his grave  when he  heard that one of his better daughters (Liz baby) brought back protestanism to England.</p>
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		<title>By: jj</title>
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		<dc:creator>jj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabeth was the one with the "pursuivants," whose job it was to hunt down and capture priests throughout England.  (Thus all the great old houses with priest's holes, hidden chapels, etc.)  She was hardly a neutral.

One of the fascinating attributes of the history of the time  is how few people ever got to hear about it!  For example, probably 85% of the English people (her nominal subjects) never heard of Jane Gray.  Outside the scheming of the Warwicks and the Dudleys and their adherents, probably a good slice of the nobiity didn't know who she was, either.  It took very few people to make "history" in those days, which I find both interesting and amusing.

So many events we regard as important swirled into being, ran their course, and everybody was executed and buried  before anyone more than twenty miles outside London even got to hear of them - forget having an opinion!

The Anglican church suffers the great disadvantage of standing for nothing.  One of the things a church is expected to do is take a position, and pretty much stay there.  Some adjustment and acceptance of current reality is fine, but you can't get away with throwing the baby entirely out with the bath-water.  There have to be some fundamentals.  I wouldn't bet the current Archbishop of Canterbury even believes in God, which makes him kind of odd as a candidate for sainthood - or as someone to administer a church.

That church has backed down from, forgotten about, and given away far too many of the basics to have a long-term healthy outlook - as a church.  They do this in the interests of getting along and being inclusive, but then that runs squarely into Groucho Marx's dictum: "I wouldn't be a member of any club that would have me."

But that's what they're becoming: a social club, with an aging and dwindling membership.  And even at that, the aging and dwindling membership attend from habit; mnost of even them don't believe what they're hearing any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth was the one with the &#8220;pursuivants,&#8221; whose job it was to hunt down and capture priests throughout England.  (Thus all the great old houses with priest&#8217;s holes, hidden chapels, etc.)  She was hardly a neutral.</p>
<p>One of the fascinating attributes of the history of the time  is how few people ever got to hear about it!  For example, probably 85% of the English people (her nominal subjects) never heard of Jane Gray.  Outside the scheming of the Warwicks and the Dudleys and their adherents, probably a good slice of the nobiity didn&#8217;t know who she was, either.  It took very few people to make &#8220;history&#8221; in those days, which I find both interesting and amusing.</p>
<p>So many events we regard as important swirled into being, ran their course, and everybody was executed and buried  before anyone more than twenty miles outside London even got to hear of them - forget having an opinion!</p>
<p>The Anglican church suffers the great disadvantage of standing for nothing.  One of the things a church is expected to do is take a position, and pretty much stay there.  Some adjustment and acceptance of current reality is fine, but you can&#8217;t get away with throwing the baby entirely out with the bath-water.  There have to be some fundamentals.  I wouldn&#8217;t bet the current Archbishop of Canterbury even believes in God, which makes him kind of odd as a candidate for sainthood - or as someone to administer a church.</p>
<p>That church has backed down from, forgotten about, and given away far too many of the basics to have a long-term healthy outlook - as a church.  They do this in the interests of getting along and being inclusive, but then that runs squarely into Groucho Marx&#8217;s dictum: &#8220;I wouldn&#8217;t be a member of any club that would have me.&#8221;</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s what they&#8217;re becoming: a social club, with an aging and dwindling membership.  And even at that, the aging and dwindling membership attend from habit; mnost of even them don&#8217;t believe what they&#8217;re hearing any more.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Lemieux</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2007/12/22/bloody-marys-revenge/#comment-18298</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Lemieux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contrary to popular thinking, the so-called European religious wars during the 16th and 17th Centuries were mostly about political and royal power rather than about religious doctrine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contrary to popular thinking, the so-called European religious wars during the 16th and 17th Centuries were mostly about political and royal power rather than about religious doctrine.</p>
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