Comments on: Has Iowa instantly become obsolete? http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/01/08/has-iowa-instantly-become-obsolete/ She escaped from the belly of the liberal beast Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:03:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Al http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/01/08/has-iowa-instantly-become-obsolete/#comment-18701 Al Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:18:05 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=2329#comment-18701 Danny-That is a shame that a woman would not consider having a woman in the White House. The fact that it is a liberal woman makes it a "three pipe problem". But I'll bet fewer women voted to WJC's hair than JFK's. Our mother's and mother's-in-law had fewer opportunities, our wives have more, and look out for our daughters'.If you're given opportunity and responsibility, you make more responsible decisions. (God, what a bromide) I guess Hillary's strongest female demographic is the 60 plus crowd. (eg.the retired priest) JJ- We have to keep repeating Morris' line about the pastry chef. It's going to be a long ten months. Al Danny-That is a shame that a woman would not consider having a woman in the White House. The fact that it is a liberal woman makes it a “three pipe problem”.
But I’ll bet fewer women voted to WJC’s hair than JFK’s. Our mother’s and mother’s-in-law had fewer opportunities, our wives have more, and look out for our daughters’.If you’re given opportunity and responsibility, you make more responsible decisions. (God, what a bromide) I guess Hillary’s strongest female demographic is the 60 plus crowd.
(eg.the retired priest)
JJ- We have to keep repeating Morris’ line about the pastry chef. It’s going to be a long ten months.
Al

]]> By: Jose http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/01/08/has-iowa-instantly-become-obsolete/#comment-18702 Jose Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:48:59 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=2329#comment-18702 Undoubtedly the same women who signed the petition to end women's suffrage, also perceive their opportunities are limited by their sex. www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uPcthZL2RE Undoubtedly the same women who signed the petition to end women’s suffrage, also perceive their opportunities are limited by their sex.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uPcthZL2RE

]]> By: jj http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/01/08/has-iowa-instantly-become-obsolete/#comment-18700 jj Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:02:03 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=2329#comment-18700 I don't know, Al, I'm afraid history has established that level-headedness and pragmatism don't much figure into the independent (or any other kind of) woman voter. Their history is not reassuring: Harding (as Book mentions), also FDR two of the four times, Kennedy, and Clinton - smart moves all. And if you go listen to archived interviews of women who voted for JFK for reasons ranging from Jackie's hats and shoes, her couture and hairdo, to his highly virile hairdo - you come away from the experience wanting to kill someone. (Or at the very least take the vote back away from them until they can prove they're grown-ups.) I'm afraid your wife is right: it'll take them no more thought than that. That the woman knows nothing, has accomplished nothing, and her "experience" is non-existent (I love Morris' line: "she was in the White House for eight years? So was the pastry chef") isn't going to matter to a lot of these people. She's managed - quite artfully, Bill still knows how to do some things - to regain the sympathy vote for herself, and we're all going to regret it for the next nine months, which promise to be an endless soap opera as she works to squeeze out a tear every time the going gets interesting. Her world famous "softer side" is going to be full time down our throats and up our... well, you get the idea. And the women? All too many of them will eat it up. I don’t know, Al, I’m afraid history has established that level-headedness and pragmatism don’t much figure into the independent (or any other kind of) woman voter. Their history is not reassuring: Harding (as Book mentions), also FDR two of the four times, Kennedy, and Clinton - smart moves all.

And if you go listen to archived interviews of women who voted for JFK for reasons ranging from Jackie’s hats and shoes, her couture and hairdo, to his highly virile hairdo - you come away from the experience wanting to kill someone. (Or at the very least take the vote back away from them until they can prove they’re grown-ups.)

I’m afraid your wife is right: it’ll take them no more thought than that. That the woman knows nothing, has accomplished nothing, and her “experience” is non-existent (I love Morris’ line: “she was in the White House for eight years? So was the pastry chef”) isn’t going to matter to a lot of these people. She’s managed - quite artfully, Bill still knows how to do some things - to regain the sympathy vote for herself, and we’re all going to regret it for the next nine months, which promise to be an endless soap opera as she works to squeeze out a tear every time the going gets interesting. Her world famous “softer side” is going to be full time down our throats and up our… well, you get the idea.

And the women? All too many of them will eat it up.

]]> By: swampacreage http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/01/08/has-iowa-instantly-become-obsolete/#comment-18704 swampacreage Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:58:39 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=2329#comment-18704 The allure of the femme fatale Hilary in NH irrationalized people (imagine the ladies falling for that ... hmm . . not that there is anything wrong with that . . when I think about all the love I gave you, I cry like a baby ) not with her charm,beauty,brains,causes or oratorical skills but good ole plain sexism.II is an old and tried brew that Carville reintroduced. Watch it this guy can play the banjo ! The allure of the femme fatale Hilary in NH irrationalized people (imagine the ladies falling for that … hmm . . not that there is anything wrong with that . . when I think about all the love I gave you, I cry like a baby ) not with her charm,beauty,brains,causes or oratorical skills but good ole plain sexism.II is an old and tried brew that Carville reintroduced. Watch it this guy can play the banjo !

]]> By: swampacreage http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/01/08/has-iowa-instantly-become-obsolete/#comment-18710 swampacreage Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:26:41 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=2329#comment-18710 Obambi is in trouble rumour has it that James Carville is back in the Clinton camp. This is the former actor who was the duelling bango kid in the scene from Deliverance. Scary ! Obambi is in trouble rumour has it that James Carville is back in the Clinton camp. This is the former actor who was the duelling bango kid in the scene from Deliverance. Scary !

]]> By: swampacreage http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/01/08/has-iowa-instantly-become-obsolete/#comment-18709 swampacreage Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:15:20 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=2329#comment-18709 Having approx. 75% of your teachers female (K to 12) and of those approx. 85% of them white things are skewed in favor of white girls moving on to college. It's called role models for girls. But hey men are off fighting wars,building bridges,making REAL money. YOU KNOW ALL THAT IMPORTANT STUFF. It's called missplaced priorities and the temptations that go with it ! It will be a long time before this changes but smart people know it must but will it ? Having approx. 75% of your teachers female (K to 12) and of those approx. 85% of them white things are skewed in favor of white girls moving on to college. It’s called role models for girls. But hey men are off fighting wars,building bridges,making REAL money. YOU KNOW ALL THAT IMPORTANT STUFF. It’s called missplaced priorities and the temptations that go with it ! It will be a long time before this changes but smart people know it must but will it ?

]]> By: Bookworm http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/01/08/has-iowa-instantly-become-obsolete/#comment-18708 Bookworm Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:07:19 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=2329#comment-18708 The women's vote is disappointing and herdlike. I keep thinking that it was the women's vote, in 1920, that put Harding in the White House. Now that was a smart move.... Not! The women’s vote is disappointing and herdlike. I keep thinking that it was the women’s vote, in 1920, that put Harding in the White House. Now that was a smart move…. Not!

]]> By: swampacreage http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/01/08/has-iowa-instantly-become-obsolete/#comment-18707 swampacreage Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:13:37 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=2329#comment-18707 Hilary is aware the NASCAR south like their women rough and tough. I was lucky to get a hold of her opening statement that she will use in the Carolina's. She is talking tough after her girls do cry pms moment (SARCASM ALERT: i still have a lump in my throat after watching that). Hilary can be anybody you want her to be(oh yeah she is all for change . . uh huh sista). She may attract the indepenents with this new look.. I don't know ? Anyway here is what she is going to say ! "I done wrestled with an alligator,I done tussled with a whale,only last week I murdered a rock,injured a stone,hospitalized a brick.I'm so mean I make medicine sick". Hilary is aware the NASCAR south like their women rough and tough. I was lucky to get a hold of her opening statement that she will use in the Carolina’s. She is talking tough after her girls do cry pms moment (SARCASM ALERT: i still have a lump in my throat after watching that). Hilary can be anybody you want her to be(oh yeah she is all for change . . uh huh sista). She may attract the indepenents with this new look.. I don’t know ? Anyway here is what she is going to say !

“I done wrestled with an alligator,I done tussled with a whale,only last week I murdered a rock,injured a stone,hospitalized a brick.I’m so mean I make medicine sick”.

]]> By: Danny Lemieux http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/01/08/has-iowa-instantly-become-obsolete/#comment-18706 Danny Lemieux Wed, 09 Jan 2008 13:20:56 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=2329#comment-18706 Al, I know a lot of women of all generations who will absolutely NOT vote for Hillary. Some will not because they feel she disgraced so many feminist principles (riding Willy's coattails, using the "woman" card", for example), some will not because they disagree with her politically and frankly find her scary, and others will not, sadly, because they themselves are prejudiced against a woman being in the White House (including my very Liberal mother-in-law). As far as opportunities for women today, here's an anecdote. I just recently, as a white male, had to go through unbelievable contortions to let go a minority-group woman. There are proportionately significantly more women in college today than men. My wife teaches in an educational system (k-12) that is designed around the needs of girls rather than boys. I will leave it to others to ponder what all this means in terms of opportunities for women versus men. Al, I know a lot of women of all generations who will absolutely NOT vote for Hillary. Some will not because they feel she disgraced so many feminist principles (riding Willy’s coattails, using the “woman” card”, for example), some will not because they disagree with her politically and frankly find her scary, and others will not, sadly, because they themselves are prejudiced against a woman being in the White House (including my very Liberal mother-in-law).

As far as opportunities for women today, here’s an anecdote. I just recently, as a white male, had to go through unbelievable contortions to let go a minority-group woman. There are proportionately significantly more women in college today than men. My wife teaches in an educational system (k-12) that is designed around the needs of girls rather than boys. I will leave it to others to ponder what all this means in terms of opportunities for women versus men.

]]> By: Al http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/01/08/has-iowa-instantly-become-obsolete/#comment-18705 Al Wed, 09 Jan 2008 12:51:26 +0000 http://proto2.webloggin.com/?p=2329#comment-18705 I guess I'm worried about the actual level headedness or pragmatism of the independent woman voter. Clinton's "experience" is dwarfed by Romney or Gulliani, but that may not trump the appeal of her sex to her sex. My wife Jo maintains a large group of women will vote for Clinton simply because she is one. While I'd like to give more credit to the rational woman voter, an NPR interview with a NH voter last night tends to support Jo's position. The interviewee was a retired female Episcopal Priest. She stated that she voted for Clinton because there still is inadequate opportunity for women in early 21st American society. Now this is from a member of a church which has quite a number of female Priests and Bishops, and whose national Primate is a woman. I know I can be clueless about a number of things, but what do the rest of you think about the reality of the current opportunity for women in America today, and the perception of that reality in the various contending groups? Al I guess I’m worried about the actual level headedness or pragmatism of the independent woman voter. Clinton’s “experience” is dwarfed by Romney or Gulliani, but that may not trump the appeal of her sex to her sex. My wife Jo maintains a large group of women will vote for Clinton simply because she is one. While I’d like to give more credit to the rational woman voter, an NPR interview with a NH voter last night tends to support Jo’s position. The interviewee was a retired female Episcopal Priest. She stated that she voted for Clinton because there still is inadequate opportunity for women in early 21st American society. Now this is from a member of a church which has quite a number of female Priests and Bishops, and whose national Primate is a woman.
I know I can be clueless about a number of things, but what do the rest of you think about the reality of the current opportunity for women in America today, and the perception of that reality in the various contending groups?
Al

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