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	<title>Comments on: Killing a canard quickly *UPDATE*</title>
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	<description>She escaped from the belly of the liberal beast</description>
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		<title>By: swampacreage</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/01/17/killing-a-canard-quickly/#comment-18980</link>
		<dc:creator>swampacreage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what your saying is a picture should be worth a million words .</description>
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		<title>By: Webloggin</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/01/17/killing-a-canard-quickly/#comment-18976</link>
		<dc:creator>Webloggin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 03:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;New York Times - Exposed Again for Peddling Fraudulent Canard About Killer Veterans&lt;/strong&gt;

Surprise at such garbage would truly be surprising in this day and age. The New York Times proves once again that the term &#8220;rag&#8221; would actually be a compliment in their case.
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<p>Surprise at such garbage would truly be surprising in this day and age. The New York Times proves once again that the term &#8220;rag&#8221; would actually be a compliment in their case.<br />
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		<title>By: Allen L.</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/01/17/killing-a-canard-quickly/#comment-18977</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I first read this story it actually had me laughing. It was such an obvious attempt to foist an old canard.

It was very much like when your kids try to lie to you. The attempt is pretty good, and the story is pretty amusing, but you know they're lying without even having to check on it.

This was so pathetic it was funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first read this story it actually had me laughing. It was such an obvious attempt to foist an old canard.</p>
<p>It was very much like when your kids try to lie to you. The attempt is pretty good, and the story is pretty amusing, but you know they&#8217;re lying without even having to check on it.</p>
<p>This was so pathetic it was funny.</p>
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		<title>By: jj</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/01/17/killing-a-canard-quickly/#comment-18978</link>
		<dc:creator>jj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of you may be old enough to remember when this same kind of stuff - though not nearly as broadly, the media was very different and so was the world in general - came up back in the 1950s in the wake of Korea.  Can't remember if the NYT was involved or not.

I was occupying space on Planet Earth at the time, but I only remember it because it came up a few years later as a sample of statistical manipulation.

The thrust of the stories was the same: military training and war experience unbalances and coarsens those who participate, thereby rendering them more likely to create problems when back home.

As an exercise, we went on to establish that not only were a disproportionate number of criminal acts attributable to veterans, but a disproportionate number of veterans also grew roses; drove Chevys; worked as pharmacists; used fountain pens; sold insurance; and joined fire departments.

Why?  Simple.  From 1941 until 1973 males in this country were subject to the draft - EVERYBODY had been in the military.  A disproportionate number of veterans did EVERYTHING!  Well, duh!  But that simple and plainly apparent fact wasn't a feature of the yellowed newspaper clippings we looked at, or the breathless reportage contained therein.  Thus can you play with statistics.

These days are clearly different, there is no draft.  But: Statiscal manipulation, lying by omission, media hysteria, and sheer incompetence (never, never, never underestimate the effect that stupidity has had throughout human history, it doesn't get nearly enough cvredit in the textbooks) remain unchanged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of you may be old enough to remember when this same kind of stuff - though not nearly as broadly, the media was very different and so was the world in general - came up back in the 1950s in the wake of Korea.  Can&#8217;t remember if the NYT was involved or not.</p>
<p>I was occupying space on Planet Earth at the time, but I only remember it because it came up a few years later as a sample of statistical manipulation.</p>
<p>The thrust of the stories was the same: military training and war experience unbalances and coarsens those who participate, thereby rendering them more likely to create problems when back home.</p>
<p>As an exercise, we went on to establish that not only were a disproportionate number of criminal acts attributable to veterans, but a disproportionate number of veterans also grew roses; drove Chevys; worked as pharmacists; used fountain pens; sold insurance; and joined fire departments.</p>
<p>Why?  Simple.  From 1941 until 1973 males in this country were subject to the draft - EVERYBODY had been in the military.  A disproportionate number of veterans did EVERYTHING!  Well, duh!  But that simple and plainly apparent fact wasn&#8217;t a feature of the yellowed newspaper clippings we looked at, or the breathless reportage contained therein.  Thus can you play with statistics.</p>
<p>These days are clearly different, there is no draft.  But: Statiscal manipulation, lying by omission, media hysteria, and sheer incompetence (never, never, never underestimate the effect that stupidity has had throughout human history, it doesn&#8217;t get nearly enough cvredit in the textbooks) remain unchanged.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been too disgusted with the New York Times for too long to be upset by this latest break of trust by the NYT with its' readership. Correction, those who read the Times now want to read these fables. The Times broke its' trust with America. Last year in protest I took out a subscription to the Sunday edition of the Washington Times, and told the NYT why. The news is late, but the book reviews are interesting.
Al</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been too disgusted with the New York Times for too long to be upset by this latest break of trust by the NYT with its&#8217; readership. Correction, those who read the Times now want to read these fables. The Times broke its&#8217; trust with America. Last year in protest I took out a subscription to the Sunday edition of the Washington Times, and told the NYT why. The news is late, but the book reviews are interesting.<br />
Al</p>
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