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		<title>By: Momma K</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/01/20/a-parenting-question-for-all-of-you/#comment-19137</link>
		<dc:creator>Momma K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anyone else think that ten years old seems very percocious for a child to be actively persuing porn---what is happening in that home?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone else think that ten years old seems very percocious for a child to be actively persuing porn&#8212;what is happening in that home?</p>
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		<title>By: Lulu</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/01/20/a-parenting-question-for-all-of-you/#comment-19138</link>
		<dc:creator>Lulu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 01:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graphic sexual images pop up unbidden sometimes just by turning on the computer. Parents should get blockers to prevent kids' access to sites they would not want their kids to see. This is part of normal parental supervision. Parents need to be aware of the risks of MySpace, chat rooms, graphically violent or sexual video games, and pornography access at library computers.
Through my work I have invited an attorney from the local DA office to speak on cyber-safety issues to parents. Many parents simply are unaware of all the risks on the internet. Perhaps you could look into whether a speaker like this is available in your area and could do a presentation at your school. Many parents would be grateful for this information. Perhaps these parents would also appreciate information about blocker sites- you might say that you use one or the other yourself. Once we got this ourselves, it was a relief not to be trying to send an e-mail and have some "big tits" or "insatiable housewife eats..." flashing across my screen.

Is the site simply pics of naked women, men, or porno? There are some truly gross things out there that could really be bad for kids to see. Your daughter's reaction was appropriate and healthy for a child- basically, yuck, I'm not comfortable. I am more concerned by a 10 year old who wants to explore porn sites. Why so much interest in sex at her age? Kids may have some curiosity of what the future holds for their bodies but elementary school age kids are generally repelled by, and not comfortable with sex itself, unless they have been exposed to it somehow- prior viewing of porno, sex, or molestation.

In any event, we enjoy it when other parents  tell us, "Your child was well-behaved." We need other parents to share information that will protect our children from harm. Be tactful, but if they can't take it they will be unable to protect their daughter from this and future risks.
Please let us know how it went.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graphic sexual images pop up unbidden sometimes just by turning on the computer. Parents should get blockers to prevent kids&#8217; access to sites they would not want their kids to see. This is part of normal parental supervision. Parents need to be aware of the risks of MySpace, chat rooms, graphically violent or sexual video games, and pornography access at library computers.<br />
Through my work I have invited an attorney from the local DA office to speak on cyber-safety issues to parents. Many parents simply are unaware of all the risks on the internet. Perhaps you could look into whether a speaker like this is available in your area and could do a presentation at your school. Many parents would be grateful for this information. Perhaps these parents would also appreciate information about blocker sites- you might say that you use one or the other yourself. Once we got this ourselves, it was a relief not to be trying to send an e-mail and have some &#8220;big tits&#8221; or &#8220;insatiable housewife eats&#8230;&#8221; flashing across my screen.</p>
<p>Is the site simply pics of naked women, men, or porno? There are some truly gross things out there that could really be bad for kids to see. Your daughter&#8217;s reaction was appropriate and healthy for a child- basically, yuck, I&#8217;m not comfortable. I am more concerned by a 10 year old who wants to explore porn sites. Why so much interest in sex at her age? Kids may have some curiosity of what the future holds for their bodies but elementary school age kids are generally repelled by, and not comfortable with sex itself, unless they have been exposed to it somehow- prior viewing of porno, sex, or molestation.</p>
<p>In any event, we enjoy it when other parents  tell us, &#8220;Your child was well-behaved.&#8221; We need other parents to share information that will protect our children from harm. Be tactful, but if they can&#8217;t take it they will be unable to protect their daughter from this and future risks.<br />
Please let us know how it went.</p>
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		<title>By: Cassandra</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/01/20/a-parenting-question-for-all-of-you/#comment-19140</link>
		<dc:creator>Cassandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I really like Joe's suggestions. Very much.

A relative of mine (very close) recently had the parent of his youngest boy handle a similar situation in just the same way. His son came clean with him immediately. He was the only child of 5 involved in an incident who did tell the truth to his parents.

The wise handling of the incident by the other boys' parents defused a potentially painful situation, gave the boy the chance to salvage something by doing the right thing and owning up to their misbehavior, and taught them all a great lesson. I recently watched his kids.

They are teens and were utterly delightful company. I can't help but believe from my own experience that kids pay far more attention to how we *act* than to anything we say in life. I am 48, and have never forgotten the day my Dad went back into a store to pay for a 19 cent package of frozen spinach at the bottom of our grocery cart.

The lesson has stayed with me, always. I was never prouder, and to this day I worship my Dad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I really like Joe&#8217;s suggestions. Very much.</p>
<p>A relative of mine (very close) recently had the parent of his youngest boy handle a similar situation in just the same way. His son came clean with him immediately. He was the only child of 5 involved in an incident who did tell the truth to his parents.</p>
<p>The wise handling of the incident by the other boys&#8217; parents defused a potentially painful situation, gave the boy the chance to salvage something by doing the right thing and owning up to their misbehavior, and taught them all a great lesson. I recently watched his kids.</p>
<p>They are teens and were utterly delightful company. I can&#8217;t help but believe from my own experience that kids pay far more attention to how we *act* than to anything we say in life. I am 48, and have never forgotten the day my Dad went back into a store to pay for a 19 cent package of frozen spinach at the bottom of our grocery cart.</p>
<p>The lesson has stayed with me, always. I was never prouder, and to this day I worship my Dad.</p>
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		<title>By: Cassandra</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/01/20/a-parenting-question-for-all-of-you/#comment-19139</link>
		<dc:creator>Cassandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...it is not that often that you get such a nicely packaged morals lesson that you can hand to your kid.&lt;/i&gt;

I could not agree more.

So often in life we try to shield our children from potentially painful experiences instead of realizing that often they are the best of what the education industry likes to call 'teachable moments': opportunities to grow, and to grow stronger. A child doesn't develop character by taking the easy path, nor by having the right thing done *for* her, but by learning that it is best to do the right thing early with the loving guidance and support of her parents.

This is what I tried to do with my sons.I don't claim I was always successful or always wise, but that was the general idea, at least.  I think I will try to write about this tomorrow - it's an interesting subject. Thanks, Ymar :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;it is not that often that you get such a nicely packaged morals lesson that you can hand to your kid.</i></p>
<p>I could not agree more.</p>
<p>So often in life we try to shield our children from potentially painful experiences instead of realizing that often they are the best of what the education industry likes to call &#8216;teachable moments&#8217;: opportunities to grow, and to grow stronger. A child doesn&#8217;t develop character by taking the easy path, nor by having the right thing done *for* her, but by learning that it is best to do the right thing early with the loving guidance and support of her parents.</p>
<p>This is what I tried to do with my sons.I don&#8217;t claim I was always successful or always wise, but that was the general idea, at least.  I think I will try to write about this tomorrow - it&#8217;s an interesting subject. Thanks, Ymar <img src='http://www.bookwormroom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: TRutledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>TRutledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something that you could suggest to the other parents is the use of a free filter, ala OpenDNS ( http://www.OpenDNS.com/ ) that does the filtering for such content without controls on the client side.  It's VERY easy to set up and I don't worry about having to deal with that particular issue on any of the computers at my home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something that you could suggest to the other parents is the use of a free filter, ala OpenDNS ( <a href="http://www.OpenDNS.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.OpenDNS.com/</a> ) that does the filtering for such content without controls on the client side.  It&#8217;s VERY easy to set up and I don&#8217;t worry about having to deal with that particular issue on any of the computers at my home.</p>
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		<title>By: ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/01/20/a-parenting-question-for-all-of-you/#comment-19142</link>
		<dc:creator>ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should check this out, Book, and anyone else interested in the parent situation.

&lt;a href="http://www.villainouscompany.com/vcblog/archives/2008/01/facing_reality.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should check this out, Book, and anyone else interested in the parent situation.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.villainouscompany.com/vcblog/archives/2008/01/facing_reality.html" rel="nofollow">link</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure why it has not been suggested but...

What about seeing if you can coach your daughter through handling this herself.  Let her know that the end goal must be "parents are notified of the behavior" and see if she can come up with an acceptable way to do it.  You can always backstop her if she doesn't want to come up with anything.

Perhaps she could:
1. Try to convince the kid that she has to tell her parents (unlikely since you judge this friend to be low quality)
2. Talk to other friends to see if they can come up with a way to get porn-girl to talk.
3. Brinkmanship: she can ask the parents and porn girl to sit down and say that she has something she needs to say.  She can then give porn-girl a chance to tell her parents before she does.

Little-BW might not want to do any of those.  But it is not that often that you get such a nicely packaged morals lesson that you can hand to your kid.

Good luck.  Let us know how it goes.  :)

Joe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure why it has not been suggested but&#8230;</p>
<p>What about seeing if you can coach your daughter through handling this herself.  Let her know that the end goal must be &#8220;parents are notified of the behavior&#8221; and see if she can come up with an acceptable way to do it.  You can always backstop her if she doesn&#8217;t want to come up with anything.</p>
<p>Perhaps she could:<br />
1. Try to convince the kid that she has to tell her parents (unlikely since you judge this friend to be low quality)<br />
2. Talk to other friends to see if they can come up with a way to get porn-girl to talk.<br />
3. Brinkmanship: she can ask the parents and porn girl to sit down and say that she has something she needs to say.  She can then give porn-girl a chance to tell her parents before she does.</p>
<p>Little-BW might not want to do any of those.  But it is not that often that you get such a nicely packaged morals lesson that you can hand to your kid.</p>
<p>Good luck.  Let us know how it goes.  <img src='http://www.bookwormroom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Joe</p>
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		<title>By: ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;I simply don’t want that child to get vindictive and have that whole gossipy little children’s community castigate my daughter as a tattler.&lt;/b&gt;

That really depends upon whether the child is willing to have her own secrets released as well. If they strikes through gossip, then who knows what her peers will make of her own activities that was tattled upon?

The best way to avoid warfare is to communicate that if they conduct a first strike upon you, you will launch everything you have back at them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>I simply don’t want that child to get vindictive and have that whole gossipy little children’s community castigate my daughter as a tattler.</b></p>
<p>That really depends upon whether the child is willing to have her own secrets released as well. If they strikes through gossip, then who knows what her peers will make of her own activities that was tattled upon?</p>
<p>The best way to avoid warfare is to communicate that if they conduct a first strike upon you, you will launch everything you have back at them.</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
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		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"My daughter is, of course, worried that her friend will figure out that she is the source..."

I really understand this - my daughter was a problem child in that she cared _way_ too much what other kids thought about her...but...
they're only 10 years old!  What is that...5th grade? 4th?  Assume porn child goes to school and spreads it around that your daughter got her into trouble...is she really going to tell her friends that your daughter ratted her out for surfing _porn_ sites?  If she does, and if the other kids then give your daughter a hard time, you really _do_ have a problem!  But it's not just that one girl...
If you go through with telling the parents, I think I'd probably talk to their teacher as well...just to see how things are going at school, and maybe give _them_ a heads up.
Schools are more aware of these things, often, than parents are, and I think schools need to help parents by making them aware of the problems and if possible the ways to keep track of what their kids are doing as well as how to keep a lid on it.

Such times we live in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My daughter is, of course, worried that her friend will figure out that she is the source&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I really understand this - my daughter was a problem child in that she cared _way_ too much what other kids thought about her&#8230;but&#8230;<br />
they&#8217;re only 10 years old!  What is that&#8230;5th grade? 4th?  Assume porn child goes to school and spreads it around that your daughter got her into trouble&#8230;is she really going to tell her friends that your daughter ratted her out for surfing _porn_ sites?  If she does, and if the other kids then give your daughter a hard time, you really _do_ have a problem!  But it&#8217;s not just that one girl&#8230;<br />
If you go through with telling the parents, I think I&#8217;d probably talk to their teacher as well&#8230;just to see how things are going at school, and maybe give _them_ a heads up.<br />
Schools are more aware of these things, often, than parents are, and I think schools need to help parents by making them aware of the problems and if possible the ways to keep track of what their kids are doing as well as how to keep a lid on it.</p>
<p>Such times we live in.</p>
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		<title>By: judyrose</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell the parents right away, and don't lie or scheme to keep Little BW's name out of it. You can request that the parents not disclose where the information came from, but your daughter will most likely be "found out." Fortify her against that by telling her she did a good thing - something she should be proud of. She protected her friend (and herself) from a danger she can't really understand yet. It's an opportunity to educate both girls about some of the evils in the world (in an age-appropriate way). The parents should be very grateful to you. Let us know how it goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell the parents right away, and don&#8217;t lie or scheme to keep Little BW&#8217;s name out of it. You can request that the parents not disclose where the information came from, but your daughter will most likely be &#8220;found out.&#8221; Fortify her against that by telling her she did a good thing - something she should be proud of. She protected her friend (and herself) from a danger she can&#8217;t really understand yet. It&#8217;s an opportunity to educate both girls about some of the evils in the world (in an age-appropriate way). The parents should be very grateful to you. Let us know how it goes.</p>
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