Comments on: German Jewish group sues Google and YouTube

By: Bookworm

Bookworm — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:58:34 +0000

Yup. At least here you can. (Although here you can sue anyone for anything, depending on the judge.) I’m unclear on German law, of course.

By: jlibson

jlibson — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 04:51:07 +0000

I didn’t know that.

You can sue someone to enforce their own rules?

By: Bookworm

Bookworm — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:44:54 +0000

I’m not giving the nod to it, jlibson, in the free speech sense — that is, I’m not saying that this is a censorship question. I’m noting that, to the extent YouTube and Google purport to have terms of use that are meant to shut down inflammatory hate speech, it is acceptable to sue them to enforce their own rules. It would be different, I think, if neither YouTube or Google had set up such rules.

By: jlibson

jlibson — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 06:16:37 +0000

To clarify…I know that the lawsuit is happening in Germany. I am commenting on the fact that Book seems to be giving the nod to the lawsuit, so I am applying US standards to judging it.

By: jlibson

jlibson — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 06:15:22 +0000

Well….no.

This makes “sense” in a country like Germany that has these insane PC laws where you can’t deny the holocaust.

But…if we have any faith in our system, then we should believe that Google has every right to police their political content in a manner consistent with their own political bias.

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:27:49 +0000

A lot of Democrats have taken their loyalty to the media and re-directed it towards blogs like Kos and Google as the ultimate purveyors of truth and information.

This, of course, simply makes Americans even more vulnerable to jihad propaganda or disinformation because the internet is disaggregated in a distributed network. Not even Google can create or remove information, they can only make it easier or harder to find. Their motto is to store information and make it easier to access.

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:25:01 +0000

Google only employs a couple of thousand people, perhaps 3k. Depending on who manages these things, it will play out different.

On the concern of the search engine, I believe it is due to the fact that people just don’t put “Palestinians dancing in street” into google. Why? because the media hasn’t barraged them with this phrase like they did “Abu Ghraib”.

How many people have mispelled Abu Ghraib or morphed it into something else? Yet it is still top on google. Why? Because the media made it a public phrase. The media didn’t make it a public phrase about Palestinian mass murderer worship going on in the streets though.

They’ll mention it, in print, but they never attach the psychological tail that they did with Abu Ghraib via the pictures and insinuations.

By: Ellie2

Ellie2 — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 03:25:45 +0000

I live in NJ. Following 9/11 there were reports all over — TV, Newspapers, etc — about Muslims “dancing in the streets” in Patterson, NJ when the twin towers fell. I was there, I saw it.

Now if you search Google, there is no mention of this. So, according to some, dancing in the streets in Patterson NJ on 9/11 is an urban myth. Google IS editing the news. Why, I don’t know, maybe they did pick a side “between America and terrorism”!

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:56:12 +0000

Charles Johnson, at Little Green Footballs, frequently notes how often YouTube happily hosts the worst kind of antisemitic garbage, while at the same time shutting down anything that might be perceived as just a little too critical of Islam. He’s not the only one who has noticed this, and a Germany Jewish group has sued Google and YouTube:

This is because the Islamic jihad has a bunch of people on the net that go and flag the videos in such greater numbers that Youtube takes it down. The same isn’t true for pro-Jewish coalitions on the net.

But the Central Council of Jews says that’s not enough. Kramer would like to see YouTube hire new workers to scan the site’s massive archive to identify and remove extremist content.

That’s pretty unrealistic. Google and Youtube does not have the manpower, the interest, the economic incentive, nor the legal protections to do that. Asking google to set up filters is suicide for them.

Until Google decides to pick a side in this fight between America and terrorism, they won’t have the same amount of interest in culling jihad videos as we, the people allied with America, have.

By: suek

suek — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:02:26 +0000

For those who are interested in “participation”:

http://stop-internet-terrorists.blogspot.com/

http://muninn-quotheraven.blogspot.com/