The Crown Loyalists that disagreed with the Founding Fathers got exiled to Canada after the Revolutionary War was won.

That’s old school solutions for ya, Danny.

Bacteria becomes harder to kill with a specific antibiotic because somebody let some of the bacteria survive, you see. And the same applies to ideologies. Allow one person to survive that can spread that ideology and the new ideology that develops later, will be immune to the tools you used to destroy the original ideology.

Thus when Nazism and Communism helped bring about the current Islamic jihad, it immunized that child to what we used to destroy Nazism and half-way destroy Communism.

Total War broke up the Nazis. Cold War broke up the Soviets. Neither are exactly working or in use today, cause the Islamics already know those cards of ours. And they know it cause we didn’t kill off the Nazis fast enough and we didn’t kill off all the Communists before they went and taught the Arabs some tricks in the Cold War.

As you point out, militant minority movements have always changed the world, whether it was the Jacobins in the French Revolution, the Bolsheviks in the Russian Revolution, or the Nazis of the Third Reich. Even our own American revolutionaries represented a activist minority of the population in the colonies.

Sad to say, Europe will likely fall to Islam because a) most people don’t care, b) they no longer believe in anything bigger than themselves whereas the Muslims do, and c) even if they did care, their socialist governments have rendered them powerless to do anything about it.

In many European countries, the Muslims already constitute between 10% and 15% of the populations. My guess is that things will really hit the fan when they hit 20%. By the time the good citizens of post-Christian Europe wake up to the fact that Islam has taken them back to the age of barbarism, it will be too late. Oh well.

That just means you have to outviolence the Islamists.

Violence, you either use it or have it be used on you

I found the honesty of LiveLeak to be very admirable. They took a stand and then owned up to their inability to withstand violence or even the threat of it. They realized the situation they were put in when family and friends and home locations were given out by the media dog sniffers, allies of the enemies of humanity, but they owned up to to it with a public statement right where the video was at.

LiveLeak: Something else the US Marines protect for free.

It is in reply to what you wrote Mike Devx.

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The danger in radical Islam is we westerners just can’t believe it, just as our parents (in my case) just couldn’t believe the reports that Hitler was exterminating Jews. Even more disturbing is the universal condemnation of the tellers of the tale and the total silence regarding its subject.

There is no comfort in the idea that Radical Islam may only represent a small minority of Muslims. A small minority can change the world — as Margaret Mead is famously quoted “it’s the only thing that ever has.” How many would it take to nuke Israel, if they had the means?

Read “Liberal Facism” by Jonah Goldberg. Presently at Barnes and Noble for “20-40% off. (I didn’t check which applied, since I’d already paid full price – darn!) It’s also at Costco for about $16. this month.
It’s tough reading, but worthwhile…and traces back communism, socialism and facism to it’s roots in the French Revolution. Nazism was a particular facism, and much admired at the time until the disgrace of the holocaust became known.

Islam started as a faith based upon conquest, Mike. The religion of the Arabs and the Persians were Zoroastrianism and the Semitic/Sabean/Egyptian native religions. They ain’t around anymore because Islam got rid of them in 700 AD.

Nazism is connected to Persia via the “Aryan race”. Islam is connected with Arabs and Persia because Mohammed came from one of the richest clans in around Mecca and Medina and because Islam conquered Persia. Islam is connected to Nazism because the modern Islamic movement and nation-states were heavily influenced by Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia.

Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia were connected intimately with a “who’s more evil” competitive hatred of each other. They hated each other because each thought their own belief system was the truest belief system, yet the two systems were so similar that they would have struggled over the totalitarian niche even if they loved each other.

Christianity, or rather the Roman Catholic Church, didn’t start off as a religion based around conquest of foreign people. Christianity had the Romans already occupying that spot of “empire builder”. Christianity, thus, had to operate under the secular laws of the Roman Empire and Emperors. They did such good work through conversion by negotiation and persuasion that Emperor Constantine converted to Christianity, even though the Roman Republic had Greek Gods and their own form of ancestor worship many centuries ago. In more than a thousand years of Rome’s age, Christianity used a few centuries to come to power through peaceful activism. That and providing spiritual sustenance to the people of Rome when Attila the Hun came. Parts of the Roman Empire were embroiled in religious conflict between the various sects of Christianity, yes, but none dared to challenge the Roman Emperor for secular dominion of the land itself.

Islam, however, spread based upon the sword. Starting from Mecca and Medina in Mohammed’s time, eventually reaching Pakistan in 700 AD after Mohammed died and a succession of “caliphates” extended Mohammed’s empire.

You see, Islam is not just a religion somebody created or built, and then somewhere down the line a firebrand came into being and used it to convert people by the sword with. No, Islam started out as a religion that combined conquest with conversion by the sword. That’s how they spread. The Eastern Roman Empire sure as heck wasn’t going to convert from Christianity unless a sword as at their throats. And they sure as heck didn’t “give” Justinian’s commissioned Hagia Sophia cathedral to the Islamic Caliphate for them to use as a mosque. And the Persian Sassanid dynasty was perfectly happy with Zoroastrianism as their religion, up until their throats got slit by the Jihad that is.

ALl of that traditions and religious legacies ended when Islam, through the teachings of the Quran, taught their followers how to “convince” people to convert and accept Islamic dominion. It is not an accident the Quran keeps talking about unbelievers and the sword cutting off throats and what not. It is a guidebook to a soldier in the Jihad.

Islamic followers want to bring back the old glory days because their current lives suck so much. Unfortunately for them, their ancestors only had to deal with a decadent and weak Persian and Roman Empire. Their descendants have to deal with America at near the height of her power as a Republic. Should they push America into Empire as the corrupt Roman senators pushed the Roman Republic into Empire, the Islamic Caliphates will regret that decision until their short and miserable lives end.

Rome went downhill when Caesar and Octavian died. Then came the succession of crazy and power mad emperors like Caligula and Nero. Their actions destroyed Rome’s unity and economic security. Contributing mightily to the decadence and corruption at the heart of Rome, while the borders were starved of resources and military strength to feed the decadence of Roman Senators.

When America progresses to an expansionist imperial system of government, which existed for much of the time the 13 Colonies became the 50 states, she will have a period of great growth and power, just like under Octavian. And just like with any Imperial system, it will only be as good as the leaders of the Empire. Eventually it will decay under its own weight and bureaucracy. Then again, the same is true for republics.

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