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	<description>She escaped from the belly of the liberal beast</description>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/01/when-pcs-clash/#comment-21900</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 04:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The British Empire went down hill when they lost the American Colonies. Then they took another hit from WWI and still another when they refused to prevent Hitler's rise to power.

&lt;B&gt;I’m sort of in favor of English school bullying. &lt;/b&gt;

Like all bullies, they may be able to acquire a relative force advantage in the short term but in the long term, they have no staying power. Nor do they grow towards an ideal maximum potential.

&lt;B&gt;Now we are “civilized,” and out boys are not allowed to bully, and Heaven forbid an actual fight in the schoolyard!&lt;/b&gt;

Civilization means you give up essential liberties for essential securities. If you wanted to live back in the Wild West and in which people could duel to the death over the slightest of social misunderstandings, then you are going to have a more hardy people. You're also going to have more dead people and wasted manpower, but if that's the price you want to pay, then go ahead.

You might think that's a good trade off, until people realize that you can't reverse time and bring back the Indians, Comanches, and Apaches. Then people start realizing that if they want to become "hardy", government will have to create threats out of thin air. Which is what the Muslims have done and the black community of America as well.

America is at a position in which individuals no longer need to fight because they can solve their disputes in more fair and bureaucratic methods. Fair, if only because it is a pain to everyone.

You can no more bring back the steppe barbarian culture than you can rewind time, JJ. That kind of nostalgia is worse than useless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The British Empire went down hill when they lost the American Colonies. Then they took another hit from WWI and still another when they refused to prevent Hitler&#8217;s rise to power.</p>
<p><b>I’m sort of in favor of English school bullying. </b></p>
<p>Like all bullies, they may be able to acquire a relative force advantage in the short term but in the long term, they have no staying power. Nor do they grow towards an ideal maximum potential.</p>
<p><b>Now we are “civilized,” and out boys are not allowed to bully, and Heaven forbid an actual fight in the schoolyard!</b></p>
<p>Civilization means you give up essential liberties for essential securities. If you wanted to live back in the Wild West and in which people could duel to the death over the slightest of social misunderstandings, then you are going to have a more hardy people. You&#8217;re also going to have more dead people and wasted manpower, but if that&#8217;s the price you want to pay, then go ahead.</p>
<p>You might think that&#8217;s a good trade off, until people realize that you can&#8217;t reverse time and bring back the Indians, Comanches, and Apaches. Then people start realizing that if they want to become &#8220;hardy&#8221;, government will have to create threats out of thin air. Which is what the Muslims have done and the black community of America as well.</p>
<p>America is at a position in which individuals no longer need to fight because they can solve their disputes in more fair and bureaucratic methods. Fair, if only because it is a pain to everyone.</p>
<p>You can no more bring back the steppe barbarian culture than you can rewind time, JJ. That kind of nostalgia is worse than useless.</p>
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		<title>By: USMaleSF</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/01/when-pcs-clash/#comment-21898</link>
		<dc:creator>USMaleSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 19:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great minds, etc., Bookworm. It was my blog entry for today.
http://usmalesf.blogspot.com/2008/04/islam-makes-strange-bedfellows.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great minds, etc., Bookworm. It was my blog entry for today.<br />
<a href="http://usmalesf.blogspot.com/2008/04/islam-makes-strange-bedfellows.html" rel="nofollow">http://usmalesf.blogspot.com/2008/04/islam-makes-strange-bedfellows.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bookworm</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/01/when-pcs-clash/#comment-21896</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're absolutely right, USMaleSF.  If a person is going to condemn a religion for taking an antagonistic approach to his beliefs, lifestyle, biology, etc., he'd better be willing to condemn all religions that do so.  Otherwise, instead of appearing principled, he starts looking like someone who is either ill-informed or has a vendetta.

In this regard, you might find interesting &lt;a href="http://www.townhall.com/columnists/JonahGoldberg/2008/04/02/the_evolution_of_religious_bigotry" rel="external" rel="nofollow"&gt;an article Jonah Goldberg published today&lt;/a&gt; about the snide attacks on the "Jesus fish."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right, USMaleSF.  If a person is going to condemn a religion for taking an antagonistic approach to his beliefs, lifestyle, biology, etc., he&#8217;d better be willing to condemn all religions that do so.  Otherwise, instead of appearing principled, he starts looking like someone who is either ill-informed or has a vendetta.</p>
<p>In this regard, you might find interesting <a href="http://www.townhall.com/columnists/JonahGoldberg/2008/04/02/the_evolution_of_religious_bigotry" rel="external" rel="nofollow">an article Jonah Goldberg published today</a> about the snide attacks on the &#8220;Jesus fish.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: USMaleSF</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/01/when-pcs-clash/#comment-21895</link>
		<dc:creator>USMaleSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my regular rants, as a righty gay man in San Francisco, is that it is perfectly acceptable to trash Christianity but an absolute silence must be maintained in regard to Islam. I live right in the heart of the ghetto. I overhear a lot of conversations. Regular condemnation of Bush, Republicans and the Christian Right. But I have never, not once, overheard even a civil criticism of the Muslim jihad or of Islam, a religion that easily outstrips all others in its harsh treatment of homosexuals, to this day. And when I make such criticisms, there is a clearing of throats and a changing of subject all around, if I manage to escape being branded a racist. 

If the gays beat out the Mohammedans in this British match, I will be well and truly astonished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my regular rants, as a righty gay man in San Francisco, is that it is perfectly acceptable to trash Christianity but an absolute silence must be maintained in regard to Islam. I live right in the heart of the ghetto. I overhear a lot of conversations. Regular condemnation of Bush, Republicans and the Christian Right. But I have never, not once, overheard even a civil criticism of the Muslim jihad or of Islam, a religion that easily outstrips all others in its harsh treatment of homosexuals, to this day. And when I make such criticisms, there is a clearing of throats and a changing of subject all around, if I manage to escape being branded a racist. </p>
<p>If the gays beat out the Mohammedans in this British match, I will be well and truly astonished.</p>
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		<title>By: jj</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/01/when-pcs-clash/#comment-21892</link>
		<dc:creator>jj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A rock thrown into a pool: I'm sort of in favor of English school bullying.  And there was a time when the English were artists of bullying in school - refer to "Tom Brown's School Days;" or "Stalky And Company;" or even "Takes of St. Austen" for a more (nearer to) contemporary version.

And what was the result of all these bullied kids?  England ran the world.  The English public-school (which means preppies, who were the most bullied because they didn't go home at night) kids were in charge of administering the planet, and the British Empire did so for a couple of centuries.  (Centuries, let us remember, are hundreds of years.)

When England made education more nationalized, and outlawed things like bullying - the Empire went right to hell and fell apart.

When we gave free rein to bulllies in schools, and fights in empty lots down the street - we conquered the continent, and in various wars whacked England, Spain, Mexico, Germany a couple of times, England, Japan - you get the idea.  Now we are "civilized," and out boys are not allowed to bully, and Heaven forbid an actual fight in the schoolyard! 

And look at the problems we're having getting a grip on a bunch of clowns who never managed to invent toilet paper.

I don't necessarily propose there is a connection - but I do feel free to wonder about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A rock thrown into a pool: I&#8217;m sort of in favor of English school bullying.  And there was a time when the English were artists of bullying in school - refer to &#8220;Tom Brown&#8217;s School Days;&#8221; or &#8220;Stalky And Company;&#8221; or even &#8220;Takes of St. Austen&#8221; for a more (nearer to) contemporary version.</p>
<p>And what was the result of all these bullied kids?  England ran the world.  The English public-school (which means preppies, who were the most bullied because they didn&#8217;t go home at night) kids were in charge of administering the planet, and the British Empire did so for a couple of centuries.  (Centuries, let us remember, are hundreds of years.)</p>
<p>When England made education more nationalized, and outlawed things like bullying - the Empire went right to hell and fell apart.</p>
<p>When we gave free rein to bulllies in schools, and fights in empty lots down the street - we conquered the continent, and in various wars whacked England, Spain, Mexico, Germany a couple of times, England, Japan - you get the idea.  Now we are &#8220;civilized,&#8221; and out boys are not allowed to bully, and Heaven forbid an actual fight in the schoolyard! </p>
<p>And look at the problems we&#8217;re having getting a grip on a bunch of clowns who never managed to invent toilet paper.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t necessarily propose there is a connection - but I do feel free to wonder about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/01/when-pcs-clash/#comment-21882</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Radical social activists see government-mandated schools as the perfect place to push their agendas.  Get 'em early enough, and the naive little open minds are yours forever.  Every revolutionary has always known the importance of brainwashing the children against the wishes of the parents.

The end of mandatory government-monopoly schools cannot come soon enough.

We can yell all we want: "Leave The Children Alone!"  But they won't ever leave the children alone.

The situation will change only when outraged parents can put their children into the school of their choice.  Radical social activists won't be able to even get a TOE into the schools once the parents have full choice.  They'll have to win their arguments in the ADULT public arena, which takes so much time and is just SOOOO frustrating to them!  Adults tend to be rational and demand proof, and we mustn't have that!!!  It's all  sooo frustrating; especially with all those naive little open minds are just there to be taken, against their parents' wishes: a captive audience for the Glorious Message!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radical social activists see government-mandated schools as the perfect place to push their agendas.  Get &#8216;em early enough, and the naive little open minds are yours forever.  Every revolutionary has always known the importance of brainwashing the children against the wishes of the parents.</p>
<p>The end of mandatory government-monopoly schools cannot come soon enough.</p>
<p>We can yell all we want: &#8220;Leave The Children Alone!&#8221;  But they won&#8217;t ever leave the children alone.</p>
<p>The situation will change only when outraged parents can put their children into the school of their choice.  Radical social activists won&#8217;t be able to even get a TOE into the schools once the parents have full choice.  They&#8217;ll have to win their arguments in the ADULT public arena, which takes so much time and is just SOOOO frustrating to them!  Adults tend to be rational and demand proof, and we mustn&#8217;t have that!!!  It&#8217;s all  sooo frustrating; especially with all those naive little open minds are just there to be taken, against their parents&#8217; wishes: a captive audience for the Glorious Message!</p>
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		<title>By: rockdalian</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/01/when-pcs-clash/#comment-21857</link>
		<dc:creator>rockdalian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;From School Library Journal
PreSchool-Grade 2-- A first title in a new line of books for children with homosexual parents , told in a straightforward manner. A young boy describes his father's relationship with his roommate, Frank (they "live together, work together, eat together, sleep together . . .")(from Amazon)&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;A similar picture book, Leslie Newman's Heather Has Two Mommies (In Other Words, 1989) presents a lesbian family. ( also Amazon)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We have similar problems here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>From School Library Journal<br />
PreSchool-Grade 2&#8211; A first title in a new line of books for children with homosexual parents , told in a straightforward manner. A young boy describes his father&#8217;s relationship with his roommate, Frank (they &#8220;live together, work together, eat together, sleep together . . .&#8221;)(from Amazon)</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>A similar picture book, Leslie Newman&#8217;s Heather Has Two Mommies (In Other Words, 1989) presents a lesbian family. ( also Amazon)</p></blockquote>
<p>We have similar problems here.</p>
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