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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/11/illegal-aliens-rescue-man-from-existential-funk/comment-page-1/#comment-22180</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 00:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Propaganda makes people feel better or worse, but I&#039;ll settle for the former.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Propaganda makes people feel better or worse, but I&#8217;ll settle for the former.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen Losse</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/11/illegal-aliens-rescue-man-from-existential-funk/comment-page-1/#comment-22170</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen Losse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, Y. , we need some good ol&#039; American propaganda.  Let&#039;s kick some foreign booty and get new material.  It&#039;s our destiny.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, Y. , we need some good ol&#8217; American propaganda.  Let&#8217;s kick some foreign booty and get new material.  It&#8217;s our destiny.  <img src='http://www.bookwormroom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/11/illegal-aliens-rescue-man-from-existential-funk/comment-page-1/#comment-22169</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A possible cure for thinking about yourself and those endless popularity contests is to try and increase your memory of events that are past your birthday.

A nation doesn&#039;t exist to make people feel good about themselves, so that they can hold their head high and not be embarrassed to call themselves Americans.

All the twists in these various stories are designed to do one thing, which is to destroy America&#039;s pride and appreciation of history and the collective experiences of humanity.

It is time to change that so that stories are made using propaganda principles to bolster people&#039;s appreciation of history as well as their pride in themselves. But to accomplish the latter, one must get people to accomplish things of personal importance. The most efficient way to do that is to win a war for a nation&#039;s destiny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A possible cure for thinking about yourself and those endless popularity contests is to try and increase your memory of events that are past your birthday.</p>
<p>A nation doesn&#8217;t exist to make people feel good about themselves, so that they can hold their head high and not be embarrassed to call themselves Americans.</p>
<p>All the twists in these various stories are designed to do one thing, which is to destroy America&#8217;s pride and appreciation of history and the collective experiences of humanity.</p>
<p>It is time to change that so that stories are made using propaganda principles to bolster people&#8217;s appreciation of history as well as their pride in themselves. But to accomplish the latter, one must get people to accomplish things of personal importance. The most efficient way to do that is to win a war for a nation&#8217;s destiny.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen Losse</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/11/illegal-aliens-rescue-man-from-existential-funk/comment-page-1/#comment-22165</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen Losse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t sen the Grinch movie.  But throughout the ages stories have changed and grown.  It all began (in the western world) in the oral tradition, when court jesters and the like were a form of entertainment for the rich.  Legends grew a single person or event.   The Arthurian legend grew from a warrior-chieftain, who later became Robin Hood, who stole from the rich to give to the poor.  That&#039;s political.  But &quot;Men In Tights&quot; takes Robin Hood to a new level: one some people hate.  The church told its story through the cycle dramas and visual art.  Films have been made from novels since we have had films.  Art has always sprung from art.

As far as what Hollywood did during WWII, I don&#039;t remember having not yet been born.  But one must take care because some people try to pass fiction as documentary.  It&#039;s like the difference in fiction and nonfiction:  The lines have been blurred.  In recent years, the term &quot;creative nonfiction&quot; has attempted to explain what has happened all along.  People&#039;s opinions (religions, political views, etc.) have always affected their artistic creations, just as they affect every other part of their lives.  Those rigid walls between disciplines were a lie.  History is affected by sociology.  Literature is a affected by both.  Teaching a topic in all disciplines makes tremendous sense.  and yes, I&#039;ve wandered from the original topic.  Thin boundaries, you know.  :-)

We may or may not like the &quot;new twist&quot; put on an old story, such as the Grinch movie, but it&#039;s been going on the the dawn of mankind.  And as for Janet&#039;s wandering boob, we&#039;ll I was in the kitchen getting half-time snacks and had to catch the replay.  Time for a change.  Bring the soldiers home.  Create a kinder America.  One that won&#039;t embarrass.  Time to vote for Clinton or Obama!!!  LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t sen the Grinch movie.  But throughout the ages stories have changed and grown.  It all began (in the western world) in the oral tradition, when court jesters and the like were a form of entertainment for the rich.  Legends grew a single person or event.   The Arthurian legend grew from a warrior-chieftain, who later became Robin Hood, who stole from the rich to give to the poor.  That&#8217;s political.  But &#8220;Men In Tights&#8221; takes Robin Hood to a new level: one some people hate.  The church told its story through the cycle dramas and visual art.  Films have been made from novels since we have had films.  Art has always sprung from art.</p>
<p>As far as what Hollywood did during WWII, I don&#8217;t remember having not yet been born.  But one must take care because some people try to pass fiction as documentary.  It&#8217;s like the difference in fiction and nonfiction:  The lines have been blurred.  In recent years, the term &#8220;creative nonfiction&#8221; has attempted to explain what has happened all along.  People&#8217;s opinions (religions, political views, etc.) have always affected their artistic creations, just as they affect every other part of their lives.  Those rigid walls between disciplines were a lie.  History is affected by sociology.  Literature is a affected by both.  Teaching a topic in all disciplines makes tremendous sense.  and yes, I&#8217;ve wandered from the original topic.  Thin boundaries, you know.  <img src='http://www.bookwormroom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>We may or may not like the &#8220;new twist&#8221; put on an old story, such as the Grinch movie, but it&#8217;s been going on the the dawn of mankind.  And as for Janet&#8217;s wandering boob, we&#8217;ll I was in the kitchen getting half-time snacks and had to catch the replay.  Time for a change.  Bring the soldiers home.  Create a kinder America.  One that won&#8217;t embarrass.  Time to vote for Clinton or Obama!!!  LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Zhombre</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/11/illegal-aliens-rescue-man-from-existential-funk/comment-page-1/#comment-22163</link>
		<dc:creator>Zhombre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never saw the Grinch movie but yes I am familiar with that &quot;Hollywood twist&quot; that inserts ideology and trendy liberal pieties in every production.  You probably did not see the remake of The Manchurian Candidate --- which completely inverted the original and used Corporate America as the Source of All Villainy. 

And, Mike, that Superbowl debacle, Janet Jackson exposing her ninja throwing star nipple protector, was nothing!  You want an example of decadent, degraded, nihilistic, rotten at the core culture, here&#039;s for you, from our &quot;European betters&quot;:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/04/11/wopera111.xml&amp;DCMP=EMC-new_12042008</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never saw the Grinch movie but yes I am familiar with that &#8220;Hollywood twist&#8221; that inserts ideology and trendy liberal pieties in every production.  You probably did not see the remake of The Manchurian Candidate &#8212; which completely inverted the original and used Corporate America as the Source of All Villainy. </p>
<p>And, Mike, that Superbowl debacle, Janet Jackson exposing her ninja throwing star nipple protector, was nothing!  You want an example of decadent, degraded, nihilistic, rotten at the core culture, here&#8217;s for you, from our &#8220;European betters&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/04/11/wopera111.xml&#038;DCMP=EMC-new_12042008" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/04/11/wopera111.xml&#038;DCMP=EMC-new_12042008</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/11/illegal-aliens-rescue-man-from-existential-funk/comment-page-1/#comment-22162</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any material can and will be used by Hollywood for anti-American propaganda purposes. Hollywood, is after all, the primary source of international anti-American propaganda material. Other countries use stuff from Hollywood to make the US look bad and Hollywood makes a buck from that.

The best that Hollywood can do is to do a Black Hawk Down movie based upon a novel by a man who just wanted to get to the truth of the Ranger&#039;s mission in Somalia. Meaning, the best that Hollywood can do is to copy the truth that others have found out.

Japan is very experienced at converting written stories and mangas into animated movies and shows that are quite faithful to the plot and themes of the manga. In fact, Japan has a history of directly transfering mangas into animated movies, since it is the mangas, which are usually authored by one creative genius alone, which determine the art style, plot, pacing, and characterization of any animated shows or movies or ovas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any material can and will be used by Hollywood for anti-American propaganda purposes. Hollywood, is after all, the primary source of international anti-American propaganda material. Other countries use stuff from Hollywood to make the US look bad and Hollywood makes a buck from that.</p>
<p>The best that Hollywood can do is to do a Black Hawk Down movie based upon a novel by a man who just wanted to get to the truth of the Ranger&#8217;s mission in Somalia. Meaning, the best that Hollywood can do is to copy the truth that others have found out.</p>
<p>Japan is very experienced at converting written stories and mangas into animated movies and shows that are quite faithful to the plot and themes of the manga. In fact, Japan has a history of directly transfering mangas into animated movies, since it is the mangas, which are usually authored by one creative genius alone, which determine the art style, plot, pacing, and characterization of any animated shows or movies or ovas.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/11/illegal-aliens-rescue-man-from-existential-funk/comment-page-1/#comment-22161</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helen says,
&quot;I’m saying that when movies present a liberal agenda and opening ceremonies present a conservative agenda, we all get both.&quot;

Helen, in general I agree with your point.  But I&#039;d like to point out the Super Bowl halftime shows rarely if ever have even an ounce of conservative theme to them.

I remember the halftime show with Janet Jackson&#039;s and Justin Timberlake&#039;s infamous wardrobe malfunction moment.  I did not actually think that much of the moment when it happened.  I was ALREADY seriously in a funk over everything that had gone before that moment!  The entire rest of the halftime show, and the utter nihilism of it and of the commercials interspersed... for a half hour the worst of America was on display, with moment after moment of debasement building on top of the prior moment.  I could not BELIEVE what I was seeing.  The wardrobe malfunction was just the crowning moment of it, and for me, it wasn&#039;t the worst by a long shot.  But it&#039;s all anyone remembers from that horrid, monstrous entire halftime show.

I thought from that entire halftime show that America looked like a thoroughly decadent, degraded, nihilistic, rotten at the core culture perfectly ready for complete collapse.  Like the Roman debauchery at the end of that empire... it signaled to me that our time as an admirable culture might just be at an end, if this was exactly the image of ourselves that we wanted to send out to the rest of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helen says,<br />
&#8220;I’m saying that when movies present a liberal agenda and opening ceremonies present a conservative agenda, we all get both.&#8221;</p>
<p>Helen, in general I agree with your point.  But I&#8217;d like to point out the Super Bowl halftime shows rarely if ever have even an ounce of conservative theme to them.</p>
<p>I remember the halftime show with Janet Jackson&#8217;s and Justin Timberlake&#8217;s infamous wardrobe malfunction moment.  I did not actually think that much of the moment when it happened.  I was ALREADY seriously in a funk over everything that had gone before that moment!  The entire rest of the halftime show, and the utter nihilism of it and of the commercials interspersed&#8230; for a half hour the worst of America was on display, with moment after moment of debasement building on top of the prior moment.  I could not BELIEVE what I was seeing.  The wardrobe malfunction was just the crowning moment of it, and for me, it wasn&#8217;t the worst by a long shot.  But it&#8217;s all anyone remembers from that horrid, monstrous entire halftime show.</p>
<p>I thought from that entire halftime show that America looked like a thoroughly decadent, degraded, nihilistic, rotten at the core culture perfectly ready for complete collapse.  Like the Roman debauchery at the end of that empire&#8230; it signaled to me that our time as an admirable culture might just be at an end, if this was exactly the image of ourselves that we wanted to send out to the rest of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/11/illegal-aliens-rescue-man-from-existential-funk/comment-page-1/#comment-22159</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Concerning the movie of &quot;Lone Survivor&quot;, well, I&#039;ll keep my eye out for it.

But I remain fearful.  Remember what Ron Howard and Brian Grazer did to &quot;The Grinch Who Stole Christmas.&quot;  Despite Jim Carrey&#039;s excellent performance, consider what the original Seuss story had as its theme, and also remember how FAITHFUL the cartoon was to the theme.

The Whos of Whoville were the best possible of communities.  Loving, sharing, celebrating their faith with a song, yet having a wild blast of a great time together.  They were beset by the evil Grinch lurking just outside their community, who wished them nothing but malice and evil.  Their profound grace and kindness redeemed the Grinch, saved him.

Now take a look at the movie.  The Grinch was a misfit WITHIN the community as a child and the entire town of Whoville was peopled with intolerant, vicious, nasty people who spurned him and drove him out.   And then HE redeems THEM.

The movie is a complete, total, 100% perversion of the theme of the original story.  It is a deliberate assault on that theme.  That&#039;s what I&#039;m used to getting from Hollywood these days.

&quot;Lone Survivor&quot; could easily suffer the same fate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerning the movie of &#8220;Lone Survivor&#8221;, well, I&#8217;ll keep my eye out for it.</p>
<p>But I remain fearful.  Remember what Ron Howard and Brian Grazer did to &#8220;The Grinch Who Stole Christmas.&#8221;  Despite Jim Carrey&#8217;s excellent performance, consider what the original Seuss story had as its theme, and also remember how FAITHFUL the cartoon was to the theme.</p>
<p>The Whos of Whoville were the best possible of communities.  Loving, sharing, celebrating their faith with a song, yet having a wild blast of a great time together.  They were beset by the evil Grinch lurking just outside their community, who wished them nothing but malice and evil.  Their profound grace and kindness redeemed the Grinch, saved him.</p>
<p>Now take a look at the movie.  The Grinch was a misfit WITHIN the community as a child and the entire town of Whoville was peopled with intolerant, vicious, nasty people who spurned him and drove him out.   And then HE redeems THEM.</p>
<p>The movie is a complete, total, 100% perversion of the theme of the original story.  It is a deliberate assault on that theme.  That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m used to getting from Hollywood these days.</p>
<p>&#8220;Lone Survivor&#8221; could easily suffer the same fate.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But Mike, isn’t there a fly-over of military jets at every NASCAR race? Don’t soldiers carry the flag at every sporting event? (Like no other citizen can carry a flag!) Don’t the prayers before the events always thank the soldiers for their “sacrifice”? (When some of think the war is a big mistake.) Don’t you think liberals tire of that? And want something else with their hot dogs.&quot;

Hi Helen.  Thank you for responding!
I&#039;ve never watched a Nascar event... I suppose there might be a military fly-over at each.
I do know that in the twenty or so pro hockey, baseball, basketball games I&#039;ve attended, I&#039;ve never seen soldiers carrying the flag.   Most importantly, why did you put &quot;sacrifice&quot; in quotes when discussing the prayers before events?  There was a time when the Democrat party&#039;s idea of patriotism included honoring the military.

None of these have anything to do with Hollywood.  But I can see your point, there&#039;s not much liberalism on display at sporting events.

&quot;Artists have always rocked the boat. Athletes love the status quo. Guess who’s more educated? Guess who’s making more money?&quot;

The people in Hollywood responsible for the status quo are NOT rocking the boat!  They&#039;re cranking out the same tired old cliches that they *all* believe in.  I&#039;m not talking about the actors, who aren&#039;t responsible for the thematic content.   Few if any of the writers, producers and directors are challenging themselves. Who is more educated?  The writers, sure.  Who&#039;s making more money?  The athletes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But Mike, isn’t there a fly-over of military jets at every NASCAR race? Don’t soldiers carry the flag at every sporting event? (Like no other citizen can carry a flag!) Don’t the prayers before the events always thank the soldiers for their “sacrifice”? (When some of think the war is a big mistake.) Don’t you think liberals tire of that? And want something else with their hot dogs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hi Helen.  Thank you for responding!<br />
I&#8217;ve never watched a Nascar event&#8230; I suppose there might be a military fly-over at each.<br />
I do know that in the twenty or so pro hockey, baseball, basketball games I&#8217;ve attended, I&#8217;ve never seen soldiers carrying the flag.   Most importantly, why did you put &#8220;sacrifice&#8221; in quotes when discussing the prayers before events?  There was a time when the Democrat party&#8217;s idea of patriotism included honoring the military.</p>
<p>None of these have anything to do with Hollywood.  But I can see your point, there&#8217;s not much liberalism on display at sporting events.</p>
<p>&#8220;Artists have always rocked the boat. Athletes love the status quo. Guess who’s more educated? Guess who’s making more money?&#8221;</p>
<p>The people in Hollywood responsible for the status quo are NOT rocking the boat!  They&#8217;re cranking out the same tired old cliches that they *all* believe in.  I&#8217;m not talking about the actors, who aren&#8217;t responsible for the thematic content.   Few if any of the writers, producers and directors are challenging themselves. Who is more educated?  The writers, sure.  Who&#8217;s making more money?  The athletes!</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;Writers of fiction have no responsibility to “reassure our insecurities concerning American problems, foreign and domestic.”&lt;/b&gt;

That&#039;s not what Hollywood said during WWII. Nor is it what they did. Remember Wake Island the movie where they had the Marines fight to the death because Hollywood didn&#039;t want to embarrass the Roosevelt administration by showing the truth, which is that the Marines were ordered to surrender after their reinforcements were recalled by Roosevelt&#039;s admiral, the one that replaced Kimmel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Writers of fiction have no responsibility to “reassure our insecurities concerning American problems, foreign and domestic.”</b></p>
<p>That&#8217;s not what Hollywood said during WWII. Nor is it what they did. Remember Wake Island the movie where they had the Marines fight to the death because Hollywood didn&#8217;t want to embarrass the Roosevelt administration by showing the truth, which is that the Marines were ordered to surrender after their reinforcements were recalled by Roosevelt&#8217;s admiral, the one that replaced Kimmel.</p>
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