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	<title>Comments on: More stories of bureacracies run wild</title>
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	<description>She escaped from the belly of the liberal beast</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/11/more-stories-of-bureacracies-run-wild/#comment-22156</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course there is no time for free will. The state owns the organs of its cogs, obviously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course there is no time for free will. The state owns the organs of its cogs, obviously.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellie2</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/11/more-stories-of-bureacracies-run-wild/#comment-22153</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellie2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but I think the kidney situation was handled the only way possible.  Because the demand far exceeds the supply (and I think the situation is worse in Europe) all transplant lists are carefully managed to be sure that the "right person" (need great, but well enough to hope for a good outcome) gets cadaver organs.  This is all decided ahead of time and there can be no "exceptions."  Think about it.  There just is no time to have a discussion about who gets what.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but I think the kidney situation was handled the only way possible.  Because the demand far exceeds the supply (and I think the situation is worse in Europe) all transplant lists are carefully managed to be sure that the &#8220;right person&#8221; (need great, but well enough to hope for a good outcome) gets cadaver organs.  This is all decided ahead of time and there can be no &#8220;exceptions.&#8221;  Think about it.  There just is no time to have a discussion about who gets what.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/11/more-stories-of-bureacracies-run-wild/#comment-22149</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;We have here the “Human Tissue Authority”, which clearly treats all individuals as integer elements in a list&lt;/b&gt;

Come on Mike, you know those bureaucrats have been taking kickbacks and bribes. They don't treat "all" individuals as integers when they can do something like OIl for Food, you know. Or in this case, money for transplants.

&lt;B&gt;It has nothing to do with bureaucrats nor policy.&lt;/b&gt;

It is not true that evil has "nothing" to do with bureaucracy or policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>We have here the “Human Tissue Authority”, which clearly treats all individuals as integer elements in a list</b></p>
<p>Come on Mike, you know those bureaucrats have been taking kickbacks and bribes. They don&#8217;t treat &#8220;all&#8221; individuals as integers when they can do something like OIl for Food, you know. Or in this case, money for transplants.</p>
<p><b>It has nothing to do with bureaucrats nor policy.</b></p>
<p>It is not true that evil has &#8220;nothing&#8221; to do with bureaucracy or policy.</p>
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		<title>By: SADIE</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/11/more-stories-of-bureacracies-run-wild/#comment-22137</link>
		<dc:creator>SADIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your mother-in-law is correct, it is anti-Semitic.
It has nothing to do with bureaucrats nor policy.
This has been a tried and true practice in Switzerland as well.
The world is filled with stories of 'stolen art' stolen possessions' and sadly 'stolen lives'.
They're playing a game of Simon Says with no chance of winning because they keep changing the rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your mother-in-law is correct, it is anti-Semitic.<br />
It has nothing to do with bureaucrats nor policy.<br />
This has been a tried and true practice in Switzerland as well.<br />
The world is filled with stories of &#8217;stolen art&#8217; stolen possessions&#8217; and sadly &#8217;stolen lives&#8217;.<br />
They&#8217;re playing a game of Simon Says with no chance of winning because they keep changing the rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/11/more-stories-of-bureacracies-run-wild/#comment-22126</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 02:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Book writes:
"I mention this whole story, which nicely seems to sum up the inhumanity that characterizes so many European bureaucracies"
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"A spokesman for UK Transplant said the final decision in this case was taken by the Human Tissue Authority.  'Their judgement, under the law, was that it was not allowed to happen.' "

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Many of us believe in the worth of individual liberty and individual responsibility.  In a world that honors these concepts of individualism, an organ donor who expressed EXACTLY the person for which their organs would go to, would have their wishes honored.  They are donors, and their recipient is on the donor list!  Fait accompli.

But no!  We have here the "Human Tissue Authority", which clearly treats all individuals as integer elements in a list, each to be assigned an impersonal value of worthiness, and they've done so.  What they've done is not illegal.  But it is utterly against the philosophy of the worth of the human.  Not the worth of HUMANITY itself, but the worth of the human, the individual, the honored.

This is in fact the very nature of government.  Government cannot make exceptions, and where it is empowered to make exceptions, that merely increases its overall totalitarian power!

It is up to us to ensure that laws are passed empowering the worthiness of individual choices.

A donor SHOULD be able to grant his or her organs or blood to a willing recipient.  The bureaucratic, faceless, anti-human choices of the "Human Tissue Authority" should be used to identify the best recipient they can, but only where no personal choice has already been made.

We must affirm the worth of each and every one of us, as individuals, or else there is only the worth of the vast faceless mob of humanity of 4.5 billion humans.  The first leads to democracy and representative government; the second leads to totalitarianism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Book writes:<br />
&#8220;I mention this whole story, which nicely seems to sum up the inhumanity that characterizes so many European bureaucracies&#8221;<br />
&#8230;<br />
&#8220;A spokesman for UK Transplant said the final decision in this case was taken by the Human Tissue Authority.  &#8216;Their judgement, under the law, was that it was not allowed to happen.&#8217; &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;-</p>
<p>Many of us believe in the worth of individual liberty and individual responsibility.  In a world that honors these concepts of individualism, an organ donor who expressed EXACTLY the person for which their organs would go to, would have their wishes honored.  They are donors, and their recipient is on the donor list!  Fait accompli.</p>
<p>But no!  We have here the &#8220;Human Tissue Authority&#8221;, which clearly treats all individuals as integer elements in a list, each to be assigned an impersonal value of worthiness, and they&#8217;ve done so.  What they&#8217;ve done is not illegal.  But it is utterly against the philosophy of the worth of the human.  Not the worth of HUMANITY itself, but the worth of the human, the individual, the honored.</p>
<p>This is in fact the very nature of government.  Government cannot make exceptions, and where it is empowered to make exceptions, that merely increases its overall totalitarian power!</p>
<p>It is up to us to ensure that laws are passed empowering the worthiness of individual choices.</p>
<p>A donor SHOULD be able to grant his or her organs or blood to a willing recipient.  The bureaucratic, faceless, anti-human choices of the &#8220;Human Tissue Authority&#8221; should be used to identify the best recipient they can, but only where no personal choice has already been made.</p>
<p>We must affirm the worth of each and every one of us, as individuals, or else there is only the worth of the vast faceless mob of humanity of 4.5 billion humans.  The first leads to democracy and representative government; the second leads to totalitarianism.</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
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		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be bureaucrats...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be bureaucrats&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
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		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the other other hand...maybe we should have rented some of those beaurocrats to process the claims coming out of NO after Katrina...!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other other hand&#8230;maybe we should have rented some of those beaurocrats to process the claims coming out of NO after Katrina&#8230;!!!</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
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		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's unbelievable that there's no one who can help her cut through this garbage.

On the other hand, it's great that she's fighting through it.  She's certainly getting up there, and sometimes the grit necessary to fight through something like this helps the blood to keep moving.

That doesn't mean it isn't a disgrace, however.  Isn't there _anyone_???  State department???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s unbelievable that there&#8217;s no one who can help her cut through this garbage.</p>
<p>On the other hand, it&#8217;s great that she&#8217;s fighting through it.  She&#8217;s certainly getting up there, and sometimes the grit necessary to fight through something like this helps the blood to keep moving.</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t mean it isn&#8217;t a disgrace, however.  Isn&#8217;t there _anyone_???  State department???</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/11/more-stories-of-bureacracies-run-wild/#comment-22105</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Human Tissue Authority, oh... Totalitarian.

As if bureaucrats have any authority to decide who lives and who dies. Not in a republic, but they do in an oligarchy. And an oligarchy is exactly what the EU is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Human Tissue Authority, oh&#8230; Totalitarian.</p>
<p>As if bureaucrats have any authority to decide who lives and who dies. Not in a republic, but they do in an oligarchy. And an oligarchy is exactly what the EU is.</p>
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