Comments on: Am I being insufferably self-righteous? http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/15/am-i-being-insufferably-self-righteous/ Conservatives deal with facts and reach conclusions; liberals have conclusions and sell them as facts. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:48:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ExPreacherMan http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/15/am-i-being-insufferably-self-righteous/comment-page-1/#comment-22464 ExPreacherMan Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:54:07 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=2769#comment-22464 Book, Right is right and Left is wrong. Nothing personal to Mr. BW, though. In Christ, ExP(Jack) Book,

Right is right and Left is wrong.

Nothing personal to Mr. BW, though.

In Christ,

ExP(Jack)

]]> By: eli http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/15/am-i-being-insufferably-self-righteous/comment-page-1/#comment-22419 eli Thu, 17 Apr 2008 02:20:03 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=2769#comment-22419 You are right. As the mom of 4 (15- 24), I can tell you this is one that WILL come back to bite you. Kids have enough trouble figuring out right from wrong without parents muddying the waters to save a few bucks. This one WILL be used against you in the court of teenage life, so stick to your position now, and forever save yourself, heaps of trouble down the road. You are right. As the mom of 4 (15- 24), I can tell you this is one that WILL come back to bite you. Kids have enough trouble figuring out right from wrong without parents muddying the waters to save a few bucks. This one WILL be used against you in the court of teenage life, so stick to your position now, and forever save yourself, heaps of trouble down the road.

]]> By: jlibson http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/15/am-i-being-insufferably-self-righteous/comment-page-1/#comment-22403 jlibson Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:27:01 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=2769#comment-22403 Yeah of course you are right. This is a no-brainer. Yeah of course you are right. This is a no-brainer.

]]> By: jj http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/15/am-i-being-insufferably-self-righteous/comment-page-1/#comment-22397 jj Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:08:25 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=2769#comment-22397 Interesting comment, DQ, one of those wherein what you didn't say is a great deal more revealing than what you did. As everybody has recognized - and as probably the children know as well - their father is quite wrong, their mother is quite right. Unless of course you see yourself as Ma Barker, and are planning to run a criminous enterprise when they get older. Interesting comment, DQ, one of those wherein what you didn’t say is a great deal more revealing than what you did.

As everybody has recognized – and as probably the children know as well – their father is quite wrong, their mother is quite right.

Unless of course you see yourself as Ma Barker, and are planning to run a criminous enterprise when they get older.

]]> By: SADIE http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/15/am-i-being-insufferably-self-righteous/comment-page-1/#comment-22395 SADIE Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:01:43 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=2769#comment-22395 I don't think this is about legal vs illegal. I have a feeling here, since I don't know the ages of your children or Mr. Book that this is more about behaving like a 'cool dad'. I tend to look at a discussion or event from what happened in the day/weeks prior to the exchange. The question is left, why on earth did he 'suggest' he might be getting them a gift and then add the caveat, don't tell anyone. This is not a gift but a manipulation. Moreover, it left your daughter feeling uncomfortable. Time for Mom and Dad to have a chat in a quiet place and find out what's the real agenda. I don’t think this is about legal vs illegal. I have a feeling here, since I don’t know the ages of your children or Mr. Book that this is more about behaving like a ‘cool dad’.

I tend to look at a discussion or event from what happened in the day/weeks prior to the exchange.

The question is left, why on earth did he ‘suggest’ he might be getting them a gift and then add the caveat, don’t tell anyone. This is not a gift but a manipulation. Moreover, it left your daughter feeling uncomfortable.

Time for Mom and Dad to have a chat in a quiet place and find out what’s the real agenda.

]]> By: benning http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/15/am-i-being-insufferably-self-righteous/comment-page-1/#comment-22389 benning Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:18:13 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=2769#comment-22389 You're right. Mr. Bookworm is wrong. The fact that he told the kids not to tell anybody that he is giving them this - whatever it is - is sufficient proof that he knows he's absolutely wrong. And he needs to think of the kids rather than his reluctance to admit he fouled up. Don't tell anybody? If word gets out - oh, and it always does - who will suffer? Probably only Mr. Bookworm. His reputation will suffer. He might not want his friends to know he's done this. But that should be a distant second. The kids will know. And they won't forget. Stick to your guns, Toots! You’re right. Mr. Bookworm is wrong. The fact that he told the kids not to tell anybody that he is giving them this – whatever it is – is sufficient proof that he knows he’s absolutely wrong. And he needs to think of the kids rather than his reluctance to admit he fouled up.

Don’t tell anybody? If word gets out – oh, and it always does – who will suffer? Probably only Mr. Bookworm. His reputation will suffer. He might not want his friends to know he’s done this. But that should be a distant second. The kids will know. And they won’t forget.

Stick to your guns, Toots!

]]> By: Mike Devx http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/15/am-i-being-insufferably-self-righteous/comment-page-1/#comment-22386 Mike Devx Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:32:43 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=2769#comment-22386 Book, your husband is not merely on "the verge of a parenting error", he's already made one. The worst to me is deliberately placing the burden for coping with an illegality upon children. Under no circumstances should he have involved them in it. I can't speak to the seriousness of the infraction because you've given no details. But even in a case where a family is starving and the parents steal food to feed them, I would never tell the children that the food had been stolen. Book, your husband is not merely on “the verge of a parenting error”, he’s already made one.

The worst to me is deliberately placing the burden for coping with an illegality upon children. Under no circumstances should he have involved them in it.

I can’t speak to the seriousness of the infraction because you’ve given no details. But even in a case where a family is starving and the parents steal food to feed them, I would never tell the children that the food had been stolen.

]]> By: Al http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/15/am-i-being-insufferably-self-righteous/comment-page-1/#comment-22384 Al Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:14:54 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=2769#comment-22384 Hi BW, I ran your question and the background information past my bride and she laughed. She thinks whatever it is Mr. BW wants to give the kids is really something he wants to play with too. And the "illegal" aspect may be in the eye of the beholder. From Jo's perspective, it's definitely a Guy thing. And it "sounds like something really fun". Maybe we're getting all too serious. Keep us posted Al Hi BW,
I ran your question and the background information past my bride and she laughed. She thinks whatever it is Mr. BW wants to give the kids is really something he wants to play with too.
And the “illegal” aspect may be in the eye of the beholder.
From Jo’s perspective, it’s definitely a Guy thing. And it “sounds like something really fun”.
Maybe we’re getting all too serious.
Keep us posted
Al

]]> By: admin http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/15/am-i-being-insufferably-self-righteous/comment-page-1/#comment-22381 admin Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:30:43 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=2769#comment-22381 Hey Bookworm, Jodi here. I think that Mr. Bookworm could have given his "gift" without all the "illegal" talk. Since he used the "I" word; I don't think its a good idea. I think that Mr. Bookworm needs to tell the kids he made a mistake and go out and get them something nice.....from the store. That being said, I don't pass judgment and I don't think that this incident is going to be detrimental to the health your children's young minds or get you that warm spot in Hell. Having read you I know that you are deeply rooted with commonsense as I am sure Mr. Bookworm is also; liberal or not. Besides, this incident is a total guy thing. Show me a guy who hasn't exhibited this type of behavior and I will truly be surprised. Its all good Bookie, don't fret over it too much. Hey Bookworm, Jodi here. I think that Mr. Bookworm could have given his “gift” without all the “illegal” talk. Since he used the “I” word; I don’t think its a good idea. I think that Mr. Bookworm needs to tell the kids he made a mistake and go out and get them something nice…..from the store.

That being said, I don’t pass judgment and I don’t think that this incident is going to be detrimental to the health your children’s young minds or get you that warm spot in Hell. Having read you I know that you are deeply rooted with commonsense as I am sure Mr. Bookworm is also; liberal or not.

Besides, this incident is a total guy thing. Show me a guy who hasn’t exhibited this type of behavior and I will truly be surprised.

Its all good Bookie, don’t fret over it too much.

]]> By: Al http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/15/am-i-being-insufferably-self-righteous/comment-page-1/#comment-22379 Al Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:01:15 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=2769#comment-22379 BW, You are not being self-righteous to any degree. You are being a parent and considering your children's future. Yes, once Mr. BW told the kids it was illegal, he made it impossible to execute his promise. I do think there is some validity to the idea that if one is active in multiple spheres, church, medicine, business, family, civic groups, someone's lack of integrity would be more rapidly exposed. But such destructive behavior would eventually rust into the open reguardless of the restricted nature of one's life. Blogging fails to qualify for that self-policing activity. Just briefly scan some of the liberal blogs. It's the contributors to a group which set the tone. The Bookworm Room attracts thoughtful minds accomplishment and integrity. I am concerned, as I think all of us are, about Mr. BW's proposal and potential outcome. Maybe the congnative dissonance of the primaries is moving him to a more conservative epiphany. I cherish you and yours, and you are all in my prayers. Al BW,
You are not being self-righteous to any degree.
You are being a parent and considering your children’s future.
Yes, once Mr. BW told the kids it was illegal, he made it impossible to execute his promise.
I do think there is some validity to the idea that if one is active in multiple spheres, church, medicine, business, family, civic groups, someone’s lack of integrity would be more rapidly exposed. But such destructive behavior would eventually rust into the open reguardless of the restricted nature of one’s life.
Blogging fails to qualify for that self-policing activity. Just briefly scan some of the liberal blogs.
It’s the contributors to a group which set the tone. The Bookworm Room attracts thoughtful minds accomplishment and integrity.

I am concerned, as I think all of us are, about Mr. BW’s proposal and potential outcome.
Maybe the congnative dissonance of the primaries is moving him to a more conservative epiphany. I cherish you and yours, and you are all in my prayers.

Al

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