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	<description>Conservatives deal with facts and reach conclusions; liberals have conclusions and sell them as facts.</description>
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		<title>By: Danny Lemieux</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/23/guilt-by-association/comment-page-1/#comment-22623</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Lemieux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you lay down with dogs, you&#039;ll get up with fleas&quot;. Hmm - my Golden Retriever and my family resemble that remark...or does it not apply to wrestling with dogs? 

Are we back to discussing Book&#039;s dog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you lay down with dogs, you&#8217;ll get up with fleas&#8221;. Hmm &#8211; my Golden Retriever and my family resemble that remark&#8230;or does it not apply to wrestling with dogs? </p>
<p>Are we back to discussing Book&#8217;s dog?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such is the power of received opinion, and my routine skepticism, that it was only recently I began to question the demonization of McCarthy. Now I understand Boris Yeltsin admitted after the end of the Cold War that Joe McCarthy had been substantially right about Soviet penetration of the State Department.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such is the power of received opinion, and my routine skepticism, that it was only recently I began to question the demonization of McCarthy. Now I understand Boris Yeltsin admitted after the end of the Cold War that Joe McCarthy had been substantially right about Soviet penetration of the State Department.</p>
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		<title>By: ExPreacherMan</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/23/guilt-by-association/comment-page-1/#comment-22619</link>
		<dc:creator>ExPreacherMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott,

You are right about McCarthy being a Senator -- and I made him into a mere Congressman...

I plead either insanity or senility, whichever you choose...

But the HUAC and HCUA argument is valid. I can still hear the Libs screaming, &quot;Abolish the Hooack!&quot;

Th ose were the days when the US government was awash with Communists (I believe it still is -- at least with sympathizers) and had McCarthy not sacrificed himself for his country, we would be speaking Russian right now.

Thanks for the correction.

In Christ,

ExP(Jack)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,</p>
<p>You are right about McCarthy being a Senator &#8212; and I made him into a mere Congressman&#8230;</p>
<p>I plead either insanity or senility, whichever you choose&#8230;</p>
<p>But the HUAC and HCUA argument is valid. I can still hear the Libs screaming, &#8220;Abolish the Hooack!&#8221;</p>
<p>Th ose were the days when the US government was awash with Communists (I believe it still is &#8212; at least with sympathizers) and had McCarthy not sacrificed himself for his country, we would be speaking Russian right now.</p>
<p>Thanks for the correction.</p>
<p>In Christ,</p>
<p>ExP(Jack)</p>
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		<title>By: Scott in SF</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott in SF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, things are bad.
I put a post on your books list about the new Evan&#039;s book, Blacklisted by History.
Preacherman-- Joe McCarthy was a senator.  The House Committee met in the House, not the senate, and Joe wasn&#039;t part of it.
Yes you are right, no blogs, liberal media, communists fought back.  But the bigger story that needs to be retold is that the State Department and other senators were working with Moscow agents and their helpers.  They were the ones that ruined him.  McCarthy went after the State department because the FBI had exposed agents working there and the Truman State department was keeping them on anyway, when some of them were finally let go under pressure, they were sent over to the UN!  Eisenhower basically continued the policy disaster and North Korea is still here to prove it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, things are bad.<br />
I put a post on your books list about the new Evan&#8217;s book, Blacklisted by History.<br />
Preacherman&#8211; Joe McCarthy was a senator.  The House Committee met in the House, not the senate, and Joe wasn&#8217;t part of it.<br />
Yes you are right, no blogs, liberal media, communists fought back.  But the bigger story that needs to be retold is that the State Department and other senators were working with Moscow agents and their helpers.  They were the ones that ruined him.  McCarthy went after the State department because the FBI had exposed agents working there and the Truman State department was keeping them on anyway, when some of them were finally let go under pressure, they were sent over to the UN!  Eisenhower basically continued the policy disaster and North Korea is still here to prove it.</p>
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		<title>By: ExPreacherMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ExPreacherMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Book,

You are still somewhat stuck in a small chunk of the liberal past. The McCarthy committee was actually the House Committee on UnAmerican Activities (HCUA). You wrote the old liberal pejorative &quot;HUAC&quot; which was a left wing code-word by which we Conservatives could immediately determine whether or not the writer was liberal. HUAC pronounced &quot;Hooack&quot; was a liberal war cry... You should remember hearing the comrades screaming .. as they destroyed McCarthy.

I know, I was deeply involved in Conservative politics back then. I followed all of the hearings, checked the background and witnessed the decimation of a patriot who exposed many actual communists in our government (and Hollywood) -- not just &quot;fellow travelers.&quot; 

The liberal media from top to bottom, with an organized all out assault, did everything in their power to destroy McCarthy (which they eventually did) because he was treading on their toes and the toes of their friends and comrades in Hollywood. We did not have Conservative Blogs back then -- and Conservatives were outnumbered and out-manned. Thus the Communists got away with their slime (and the Lefties still are).

You should read Ann Coulter&#039;s book &quot;Treason&quot; which has proven to be accurate and well documented. NewsMax has a great piece on the book from several years ago. Well worth the read for a sincere Conservative... whether you like Coulter or not.

Ann Coulter - NewsMax - Treason
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/6/23/120358.shtml

In Christ,

ExP(Jack)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Book,</p>
<p>You are still somewhat stuck in a small chunk of the liberal past. The McCarthy committee was actually the House Committee on UnAmerican Activities (HCUA). You wrote the old liberal pejorative &#8220;HUAC&#8221; which was a left wing code-word by which we Conservatives could immediately determine whether or not the writer was liberal. HUAC pronounced &#8220;Hooack&#8221; was a liberal war cry&#8230; You should remember hearing the comrades screaming .. as they destroyed McCarthy.</p>
<p>I know, I was deeply involved in Conservative politics back then. I followed all of the hearings, checked the background and witnessed the decimation of a patriot who exposed many actual communists in our government (and Hollywood) &#8212; not just &#8220;fellow travelers.&#8221; </p>
<p>The liberal media from top to bottom, with an organized all out assault, did everything in their power to destroy McCarthy (which they eventually did) because he was treading on their toes and the toes of their friends and comrades in Hollywood. We did not have Conservative Blogs back then &#8212; and Conservatives were outnumbered and out-manned. Thus the Communists got away with their slime (and the Lefties still are).</p>
<p>You should read Ann Coulter&#8217;s book &#8220;Treason&#8221; which has proven to be accurate and well documented. NewsMax has a great piece on the book from several years ago. Well worth the read for a sincere Conservative&#8230; whether you like Coulter or not.</p>
<p>Ann Coulter &#8211; NewsMax &#8211; Treason<br />
<a href="http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/6/23/120358.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/6/23/120358.shtml</a></p>
<p>In Christ,</p>
<p>ExP(Jack)</p>
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		<title>By: Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what I call trying to pass a steer as a bull. Upon cursory examination you know what&#039;s going on. Let&#039;s see if I have it right.

I don&#039;t listen to my spiritual mentor.
I did a business deal without checking it out.
He&#039;s just a neighbor.

Translation.

I don&#039;t take advice. (Joint Chiefs, I know they&#039;re around but I didn&#039;t hear them.)
I don&#039;t do due diligence. (CIA, who&#039;s that?)
I don&#039;t know anything about the people I interact with. (Who&#039;s in my Cabinet?)

You want to be President?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what I call trying to pass a steer as a bull. Upon cursory examination you know what&#8217;s going on. Let&#8217;s see if I have it right.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t listen to my spiritual mentor.<br />
I did a business deal without checking it out.<br />
He&#8217;s just a neighbor.</p>
<p>Translation.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t take advice. (Joint Chiefs, I know they&#8217;re around but I didn&#8217;t hear them.)<br />
I don&#8217;t do due diligence. (CIA, who&#8217;s that?)<br />
I don&#8217;t know anything about the people I interact with. (Who&#8217;s in my Cabinet?)</p>
<p>You want to be President?</p>
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		<title>By: 11B40</title>
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		<dc:creator>11B40</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings:

I did my growing up back in the Bronx in the 50s and 60s.  At the time, there were about 2 million people living in the borough and my neighborhood was mostly apartment buildings of five or six stories, so there was a sizable population of youngsters.  As we grew up, different factions developed and were defined by their proclivities for certain types of behaviors.  Prominent among the boy children were the ball-players and the JDs (short for juvenile delinquents).  Among the girl children were the good-girls and the beauty-school-dropouts.

At a certain point, there was a emotional resonance between myself and the JDs.  In the close quarters of our neighborhood, where I was spending my time soon became apparent to my father.  He took me aside one evening to find out from me what was developing.  I offered the usual justifications, that people didn&#039;t like the way they acted or dressed but that they were really not bad guys.  My father&#039;s prescription was short and emphatic: &quot;If you lay down with dogs, you will get up with fleas.&quot;  

This &quot;guilt by association&quot; canard that is being used to ameliorate Senator Obama&#039;s associations is just another example of the Left&#039;s affinity for non-judgementalism.  We are all hard-wired to observe and interpret social inter-actions.  It is part of what has contributed to our success as a species.  For me, the give-away is that these associations all seem to be on the far left end of the spectrum.  Senator Obama has made his own bed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings:</p>
<p>I did my growing up back in the Bronx in the 50s and 60s.  At the time, there were about 2 million people living in the borough and my neighborhood was mostly apartment buildings of five or six stories, so there was a sizable population of youngsters.  As we grew up, different factions developed and were defined by their proclivities for certain types of behaviors.  Prominent among the boy children were the ball-players and the JDs (short for juvenile delinquents).  Among the girl children were the good-girls and the beauty-school-dropouts.</p>
<p>At a certain point, there was a emotional resonance between myself and the JDs.  In the close quarters of our neighborhood, where I was spending my time soon became apparent to my father.  He took me aside one evening to find out from me what was developing.  I offered the usual justifications, that people didn&#8217;t like the way they acted or dressed but that they were really not bad guys.  My father&#8217;s prescription was short and emphatic: &#8220;If you lay down with dogs, you will get up with fleas.&#8221;  </p>
<p>This &#8220;guilt by association&#8221; canard that is being used to ameliorate Senator Obama&#8217;s associations is just another example of the Left&#8217;s affinity for non-judgementalism.  We are all hard-wired to observe and interpret social inter-actions.  It is part of what has contributed to our success as a species.  For me, the give-away is that these associations all seem to be on the far left end of the spectrum.  Senator Obama has made his own bed.</p>
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