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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/26/another-door-to-the-past-closes/comment-page-1/#comment-22728</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 02:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw, prop planes vs jets like the excellent Messerschmitt ? That is so far above in the skill level that others might as well just call it luck, since certainly nobody else could have done it by using their skills.

Technologically speaking, skill and training and a good bit of luck can offset numerical or technological advantages. Because at the base, war is fought by humans with a human heart, Book. No amount of technology or numbers will change that basic fundamental fact of warfare.

What the Left abuses about this is when they say that just because you are qualitatively inferior to the United States, that this suddenly means you have some kind of &quot;virtue&quot; superior to the Americans.That isn&#039;t true. 

Just cause you have a superior jet doesn&#039;t mean you are a superior pilot and just because your jet is inferior doesn&#039;t make your pilot superior either. The technology is totally independent from the quality of the person doing the fighting. What the tech advantage does for you is to give you a favorable odds at surviving and killing off the other guy. Just as many people have had great odds and failed, so have many people experienced unfavorable odds yet succeeded nonetheless.

Terrorists can be outnumbered by us and outmatched on all technological and tactical levels, yet that doesn&#039;t make them better individual fighters than us nor does it make them more &#039;virtuous&#039; than us.

It is extremely difficult to create soldierly or human virtues amongst an army that is qualitatively outmatched by the enemy.  It is even more difficult than training a small group of soldiers to defeat a much larger group of enemies. Usually forces that are qualitatively outmatched by the enemy will prefer the &quot;quantity over quality&quot; thing the Soviets freshened up. This makes it very hard to highlight individual skill, training, discipline, or any other warrior virtues. You&#039;re just another piece of cannon fodder, you see, so it is not like they&#039;ll work all that hard to ensure that you survive and retain your fighting experience.

You can do it, meaning you can create a very good cadre of soldiers even if their technology sucks compared to everybody else and even if their numbers suck compared to everybody else as well. But you have to use something like what the Special Forces use. Which is probably cheating.

Skilled and qualified guerrilla fighters are almost impossible to train and maintain, if they lack technological advantage or anything to offset it.

The Warsaw Ghetto uprising may be said to be an example of the above.

In conclusion, a warrior with solid warrior virtues and a core of integrity and honor wil lfight well regardless of whether he has the qualitative advantage or not. Just cause the terrorists are in caves and enslaving children doesn&#039;t mean that they get a pass for evil behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw, prop planes vs jets like the excellent Messerschmitt ? That is so far above in the skill level that others might as well just call it luck, since certainly nobody else could have done it by using their skills.</p>
<p>Technologically speaking, skill and training and a good bit of luck can offset numerical or technological advantages. Because at the base, war is fought by humans with a human heart, Book. No amount of technology or numbers will change that basic fundamental fact of warfare.</p>
<p>What the Left abuses about this is when they say that just because you are qualitatively inferior to the United States, that this suddenly means you have some kind of &#8220;virtue&#8221; superior to the Americans.That isn&#8217;t true. </p>
<p>Just cause you have a superior jet doesn&#8217;t mean you are a superior pilot and just because your jet is inferior doesn&#8217;t make your pilot superior either. The technology is totally independent from the quality of the person doing the fighting. What the tech advantage does for you is to give you a favorable odds at surviving and killing off the other guy. Just as many people have had great odds and failed, so have many people experienced unfavorable odds yet succeeded nonetheless.</p>
<p>Terrorists can be outnumbered by us and outmatched on all technological and tactical levels, yet that doesn&#8217;t make them better individual fighters than us nor does it make them more &#8216;virtuous&#8217; than us.</p>
<p>It is extremely difficult to create soldierly or human virtues amongst an army that is qualitatively outmatched by the enemy.  It is even more difficult than training a small group of soldiers to defeat a much larger group of enemies. Usually forces that are qualitatively outmatched by the enemy will prefer the &#8220;quantity over quality&#8221; thing the Soviets freshened up. This makes it very hard to highlight individual skill, training, discipline, or any other warrior virtues. You&#8217;re just another piece of cannon fodder, you see, so it is not like they&#8217;ll work all that hard to ensure that you survive and retain your fighting experience.</p>
<p>You can do it, meaning you can create a very good cadre of soldiers even if their technology sucks compared to everybody else and even if their numbers suck compared to everybody else as well. But you have to use something like what the Special Forces use. Which is probably cheating.</p>
<p>Skilled and qualified guerrilla fighters are almost impossible to train and maintain, if they lack technological advantage or anything to offset it.</p>
<p>The Warsaw Ghetto uprising may be said to be an example of the above.</p>
<p>In conclusion, a warrior with solid warrior virtues and a core of integrity and honor wil lfight well regardless of whether he has the qualitative advantage or not. Just cause the terrorists are in caves and enslaving children doesn&#8217;t mean that they get a pass for evil behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/26/another-door-to-the-past-closes/comment-page-1/#comment-22727</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 02:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s always healthy to celebrate the accomplishments of your people over the enemy, since it is a distinct mark of skill or luck.

What isn&#039;t healthy is making glorified heroic sagas up or re-directing people&#039;s fiery emotions towards fake causes and even faker enemies.

Real enemies can find much in common after the war is over or even during the war as POWs or what not. Fake enemies, wherein Israel doesn&#039;t want to be Palestine&#039;s enemy yet Palestine needs Israel as an enemy so they act like israel needs to be destroyed for the Pally&#039;s own safety, never really get along even after hostilities end.

This is always an interesting facet of warfare. The human drama is distinct since honorable enemies never mistreat each other. You will always have dishonorable, cowardly, or plain sadistic foes and allies; that never changes. What does change is the war. It won&#039;t always be a war because both sides have honorable men and women who fight to end the war, instead of fighting to prolong it or fighting it to benefit themselves or fighting it to grind some ideological or theological axe.

You tend to know for certain that one side doesn&#039;t have anyone of true honor when the war keeps going on and on and on with no end in sight. Some people see that and say America is the one that lacks honor and that is why we are stuck in a quagmire. Other people see this and say that it is the terrorists and criminal insurgents that are without honor, regardless of how much honor killing they may be promoting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s always healthy to celebrate the accomplishments of your people over the enemy, since it is a distinct mark of skill or luck.</p>
<p>What isn&#8217;t healthy is making glorified heroic sagas up or re-directing people&#8217;s fiery emotions towards fake causes and even faker enemies.</p>
<p>Real enemies can find much in common after the war is over or even during the war as POWs or what not. Fake enemies, wherein Israel doesn&#8217;t want to be Palestine&#8217;s enemy yet Palestine needs Israel as an enemy so they act like israel needs to be destroyed for the Pally&#8217;s own safety, never really get along even after hostilities end.</p>
<p>This is always an interesting facet of warfare. The human drama is distinct since honorable enemies never mistreat each other. You will always have dishonorable, cowardly, or plain sadistic foes and allies; that never changes. What does change is the war. It won&#8217;t always be a war because both sides have honorable men and women who fight to end the war, instead of fighting to prolong it or fighting it to benefit themselves or fighting it to grind some ideological or theological axe.</p>
<p>You tend to know for certain that one side doesn&#8217;t have anyone of true honor when the war keeps going on and on and on with no end in sight. Some people see that and say America is the one that lacks honor and that is why we are stuck in a quagmire. Other people see this and say that it is the terrorists and criminal insurgents that are without honor, regardless of how much honor killing they may be promoting.</p>
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