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	<title>Comments on: What Myanmar says about Iran *UPDATED*</title>
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	<description>She escaped from the belly of the liberal beast</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Danny Lemieux</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/05/09/what-myanmar-says-about-iran/#comment-23302</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Lemieux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 21:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shoot, Mike Devx...here I thought that you were going to suggest that Britney Spears and Ryan Seacrest could be banished to Mars. The rest of us could stay here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shoot, Mike Devx&#8230;here I thought that you were going to suggest that Britney Spears and Ryan Seacrest could be banished to Mars. The rest of us could stay here.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/05/09/what-myanmar-says-about-iran/#comment-23300</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 12:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al,
I'm in a pessimistic mood this morning...

Yes, a self-sustaining base on Mars would at least ensure that human life survives total catastrophe here on Earth.  But war with Iran, even nuclear, won't end life on Earth...

A permanent base on Mars... run by politicians?  Next thing you know, quotas mandating 'Earth-based diversity' would give you UN-style chaos, and hatred of America and Israel.  All it takes is the right voting bloc to create misery around you.

Or else the military would be in charge.  Since I'm pessimistic, remember some militaries are like the Myanmar leaders.  That would not exactly mean, for civilians, a wallk in the park.  You would be totally expendable to them, as the only important people are the soldiers running the junta.

Life itself on a hostile planet would be difficult enough.  With the wrong political leadership at the top, living might be an unmitigated misery.

End of my pessimism.  ;-)    Under other political conditions, living a life on hostile Mars might be an extraordinary challenge and for the right kind of person might be totally life-affirming.  Let's just say that Britney Spears and Ryan Seacrest do not represent such a person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al,<br />
I&#8217;m in a pessimistic mood this morning&#8230;</p>
<p>Yes, a self-sustaining base on Mars would at least ensure that human life survives total catastrophe here on Earth.  But war with Iran, even nuclear, won&#8217;t end life on Earth&#8230;</p>
<p>A permanent base on Mars&#8230; run by politicians?  Next thing you know, quotas mandating &#8216;Earth-based diversity&#8217; would give you UN-style chaos, and hatred of America and Israel.  All it takes is the right voting bloc to create misery around you.</p>
<p>Or else the military would be in charge.  Since I&#8217;m pessimistic, remember some militaries are like the Myanmar leaders.  That would not exactly mean, for civilians, a wallk in the park.  You would be totally expendable to them, as the only important people are the soldiers running the junta.</p>
<p>Life itself on a hostile planet would be difficult enough.  With the wrong political leadership at the top, living might be an unmitigated misery.</p>
<p>End of my pessimism.  <img src='http://www.bookwormroom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />    Under other political conditions, living a life on hostile Mars might be an extraordinary challenge and for the right kind of person might be totally life-affirming.  Let&#8217;s just say that Britney Spears and Ryan Seacrest do not represent such a person.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/05/09/what-myanmar-says-about-iran/#comment-23280</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 09:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no question that Clinton is clueless when it comes to the Iranian threat. My problem with her statement is that it's purely political. And as ill informed as Obama's statement early in the campaign about attacking Pakistan if they didn't do more to quell the Taliban. I really do not think Clinton would blow Iran away if Iran did nuke Israel. "Two wrongs don't make a right. We have to be reasonable about this."
I do wish the space program was further along. Like having a permanent, self sustaining base on Mars.
Al</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no question that Clinton is clueless when it comes to the Iranian threat. My problem with her statement is that it&#8217;s purely political. And as ill informed as Obama&#8217;s statement early in the campaign about attacking Pakistan if they didn&#8217;t do more to quell the Taliban. I really do not think Clinton would blow Iran away if Iran did nuke Israel. &#8220;Two wrongs don&#8217;t make a right. We have to be reasonable about this.&#8221;<br />
I do wish the space program was further along. Like having a permanent, self sustaining base on Mars.<br />
Al</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/05/09/what-myanmar-says-about-iran/#comment-23273</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 07:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw, if you had half way competent diplomats in the State Dep, which we obviously don't have, they would already have extended contacts with lebanon's government to see what they need or are willing to accept. In the most extreme of conditions, an offer can be made to treat Lebanon as an extension of the forces currently in Iraq.

The Lebanese might not accept it, but they would at least have a choice of which poison they will take in the end.

Such choices and free will are never given to nations by the US State Department because the US diplomats aren't out to solve misunderstandings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw, if you had half way competent diplomats in the State Dep, which we obviously don&#8217;t have, they would already have extended contacts with lebanon&#8217;s government to see what they need or are willing to accept. In the most extreme of conditions, an offer can be made to treat Lebanon as an extension of the forces currently in Iraq.</p>
<p>The Lebanese might not accept it, but they would at least have a choice of which poison they will take in the end.</p>
<p>Such choices and free will are never given to nations by the US State Department because the US diplomats aren&#8217;t out to solve misunderstandings.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/05/09/what-myanmar-says-about-iran/#comment-23272</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 07:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;Soldiers have largely refrained from confronting the gangs of militiamen roving the city&lt;/b&gt;

That's what tends to happen when you aren't occupied by American soldiers motivating folks to get up off their arse and do their jobs, Book.

Iraq, whether they know it or not, have a much higher chance of tranquility than their neighbors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Soldiers have largely refrained from confronting the gangs of militiamen roving the city</b></p>
<p>That&#8217;s what tends to happen when you aren&#8217;t occupied by American soldiers motivating folks to get up off their arse and do their jobs, Book.</p>
<p>Iraq, whether they know it or not, have a much higher chance of tranquility than their neighbors.</p>
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		<title>By: kimpriestap</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/05/09/what-myanmar-says-about-iran/#comment-23262</link>
		<dc:creator>kimpriestap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 01:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post, Bookworm. Your point about Ahmadinejad and the 12th Imam is spot on. He's been rattling his Armageddon saber for a long time now, but very few people seem to take him at his word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post, Bookworm. Your point about Ahmadinejad and the 12th Imam is spot on. He&#8217;s been rattling his Armageddon saber for a long time now, but very few people seem to take him at his word.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 01:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A murderer or a serial killer does not "abhor" killing. He has no need for "cease fires" unless it's just to get himself closer to you.

&lt;B&gt;In other words, the threat Hillary now makes as she works the campaign trail, a threat she believes is the type that will paralyze Iran and prevent action is, in fact, precisely the end Iran’s leaders are seeking. It’s not a threat at all. Instead, it’s the desired culmination of Allah’s plans.&lt;/b&gt;

Human beings are the ones that decide to push the button. In terms of American nukes, those human beings are Americans. Iran has demonstrated that they can twist Americans around their little pinkie any day of the 365+ days of the year. As demonstrated before, in fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A murderer or a serial killer does not &#8220;abhor&#8221; killing. He has no need for &#8220;cease fires&#8221; unless it&#8217;s just to get himself closer to you.</p>
<p><b>In other words, the threat Hillary now makes as she works the campaign trail, a threat she believes is the type that will paralyze Iran and prevent action is, in fact, precisely the end Iran’s leaders are seeking. It’s not a threat at all. Instead, it’s the desired culmination of Allah’s plans.</b></p>
<p>Human beings are the ones that decide to push the button. In terms of American nukes, those human beings are Americans. Iran has demonstrated that they can twist Americans around their little pinkie any day of the 365+ days of the year. As demonstrated before, in fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/05/09/what-myanmar-says-about-iran/#comment-23260</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 01:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mutually assured destruction only works if both parties are civilized or at least socialized and sane. "Socialized" meaning that their society abhors killing themselves and everybody around, at least on principle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mutually assured destruction only works if both parties are civilized or at least socialized and sane. &#8220;Socialized&#8221; meaning that their society abhors killing themselves and everybody around, at least on principle.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/05/09/what-myanmar-says-about-iran/#comment-23259</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 01:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mutually assured destruction is kind of like you holding up a knife to a murderer and telling the murderer that if he doesn't leave you alone, you're going to kill him and force him to kill you.

Most socialized and sane people, on either side, when they see a knife or gun is to hold up their hands and say "calm down, nobody needs to be hurt here". Terrorists act like the murderer and serial killer. You show them your knife and they'll shoot you with their gun or they'll pretend to a cease fire in order to get close and get your knife to stab you with.

The basic difference is very simple. If you are facing up to a murderer and a sadistic serial killer, which is what terrorists mostly are, you are going to want to "deter" them with words or threats or demonstrations of your weapon.

In reality, though, if you tried those things, you would die cause the murderer wastes no time talking and is already well on his way to killing you by the time you finished talking.

That's why in reality, when you encounter some person in an alleyway trying to kill or hurt you, you don't ask him "back off", you just take out your gun and shoot them or you put elbow in their throat and asphyxiate them or you claw out their corneas with their sideways swipe of your fingertips.

So why do diplomats in the US want to hold talks and ceasefire agreements and give our enemies in Iran time to cook stuff up? Cause diplomats in the US aren't the ones that's going to die if Iran gets some time to figure new stuff out. Well, not the first ones anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mutually assured destruction is kind of like you holding up a knife to a murderer and telling the murderer that if he doesn&#8217;t leave you alone, you&#8217;re going to kill him and force him to kill you.</p>
<p>Most socialized and sane people, on either side, when they see a knife or gun is to hold up their hands and say &#8220;calm down, nobody needs to be hurt here&#8221;. Terrorists act like the murderer and serial killer. You show them your knife and they&#8217;ll shoot you with their gun or they&#8217;ll pretend to a cease fire in order to get close and get your knife to stab you with.</p>
<p>The basic difference is very simple. If you are facing up to a murderer and a sadistic serial killer, which is what terrorists mostly are, you are going to want to &#8220;deter&#8221; them with words or threats or demonstrations of your weapon.</p>
<p>In reality, though, if you tried those things, you would die cause the murderer wastes no time talking and is already well on his way to killing you by the time you finished talking.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why in reality, when you encounter some person in an alleyway trying to kill or hurt you, you don&#8217;t ask him &#8220;back off&#8221;, you just take out your gun and shoot them or you put elbow in their throat and asphyxiate them or you claw out their corneas with their sideways swipe of your fingertips.</p>
<p>So why do diplomats in the US want to hold talks and ceasefire agreements and give our enemies in Iran time to cook stuff up? Cause diplomats in the US aren&#8217;t the ones that&#8217;s going to die if Iran gets some time to figure new stuff out. Well, not the first ones anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: ExPreacherMan</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/05/09/what-myanmar-says-about-iran/#comment-23258</link>
		<dc:creator>ExPreacherMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 00:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Book,

Brilliant parallel thinking!! 

I never would have thought to draw a parallel between Myanmar and the Iran/Israel/USA conflict... but you are right. Ahmadinijad has no concern for life -- as he will be the hero of all Islam if he decimates Israel.

You really have come a long way since our Liberal vs Conservative duel in the 60s.

Thanks for exercising my brain... 

In Christ,

ExP(Jack)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Book,</p>
<p>Brilliant parallel thinking!! </p>
<p>I never would have thought to draw a parallel between Myanmar and the Iran/Israel/USA conflict&#8230; but you are right. Ahmadinijad has no concern for life &#8212; as he will be the hero of all Islam if he decimates Israel.</p>
<p>You really have come a long way since our Liberal vs Conservative duel in the 60s.</p>
<p>Thanks for exercising my brain&#8230; </p>
<p>In Christ,</p>
<p>ExP(Jack)</p>
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