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	<title>Comments on: Be careful what you read</title>
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	<description>She escaped from the belly of the liberal beast</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/05/12/be-careful-what-you-read/#comment-23371</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 13:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judyrose, you're absolutely right, Indiana U is a lot closer in nature to a government office than it is to a private workplace.  I hadn't considered that.

I am still more concerned about government interference than private interference.   I hate private interference (ie, no Christmas decorations at your desk in December please, or you will be reported!  No food carts that play Christmas jingles!).  But you *can* leave your job, whereas you cannot leave your government.  And we grant government power and force over our lives to maintain civilization.

In the end, I'm still hoping for a national movement against all this government and corporate thought-policing.  A movement whose catchphrase might very well be "Stop Being So Super-Sensitive!"  There's still enough basic American pragmatism and reasonableness around that I remain hopeful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judyrose, you&#8217;re absolutely right, Indiana U is a lot closer in nature to a government office than it is to a private workplace.  I hadn&#8217;t considered that.</p>
<p>I am still more concerned about government interference than private interference.   I hate private interference (ie, no Christmas decorations at your desk in December please, or you will be reported!  No food carts that play Christmas jingles!).  But you *can* leave your job, whereas you cannot leave your government.  And we grant government power and force over our lives to maintain civilization.</p>
<p>In the end, I&#8217;m still hoping for a national movement against all this government and corporate thought-policing.  A movement whose catchphrase might very well be &#8220;Stop Being So Super-Sensitive!&#8221;  There&#8217;s still enough basic American pragmatism and reasonableness around that I remain hopeful.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Lemieux</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/05/12/be-careful-what-you-read/#comment-23362</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Lemieux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 11:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three excellent points, YM. You really put the issue in a nutshell. When universities ban books....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three excellent points, YM. You really put the issue in a nutshell. When universities ban books&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/05/12/be-careful-what-you-read/#comment-23355</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 05:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;This is a strange and difficult case for me…&lt;/b&gt;

To put things in an even simpler fashion, a university not allowing people working or studying there to read its library books is a like a company, which universities are not classified as in the private economic industry, not allowing its employees to read manuals on skills, technology, machines, and company policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>This is a strange and difficult case for me…</b></p>
<p>To put things in an even simpler fashion, a university not allowing people working or studying there to read its library books is a like a company, which universities are not classified as in the private economic industry, not allowing its employees to read manuals on skills, technology, machines, and company policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/05/12/be-careful-what-you-read/#comment-23342</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 23:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;Everywhere I’ve worked for the last fifteen years, if I tell off-color jokes in a coworker’s cube, I’m elegible for the same complaint he received, and I’m likely to get the same punishment: Your behavior is offensive and you need to tell those jokes elsewhere. Otherwise, goodbye.&lt;/b&gt;

I didn't know that reading a book was the same as telling a joke in social circles, Mike.

&lt;B&gt;Otherwise, goodbye. And don’t we tend, here, to give employers a great deal of leeway about what is acceptable and what isn’t?&lt;/b&gt;

The universities don't employ anyone. They are parasitic organisms based upon grant money and federal largesse, which constitutes most of their expenses, rather than tuition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Everywhere I’ve worked for the last fifteen years, if I tell off-color jokes in a coworker’s cube, I’m elegible for the same complaint he received, and I’m likely to get the same punishment: Your behavior is offensive and you need to tell those jokes elsewhere. Otherwise, goodbye.</b></p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know that reading a book was the same as telling a joke in social circles, Mike.</p>
<p><b>Otherwise, goodbye. And don’t we tend, here, to give employers a great deal of leeway about what is acceptable and what isn’t?</b></p>
<p>The universities don&#8217;t employ anyone. They are parasitic organisms based upon grant money and federal largesse, which constitutes most of their expenses, rather than tuition.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/05/12/be-careful-what-you-read/#comment-23341</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 23:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;But that didn’t stop the Affirmative Action Office of Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis from branding me as a detestable Klansman.

They didn’t want to hear the truth. The office ruled that my “repeatedly reading the book . . . constitutes racial harassment in that you demonstrated disdain and insensitivity to your co-workers.”&lt;/b&gt;

I kept hearing that the Patriot Act would gang up on library readers. Where are these crickets now? Chirp chirping? No.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>But that didn’t stop the Affirmative Action Office of Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis from branding me as a detestable Klansman.</p>
<p>They didn’t want to hear the truth. The office ruled that my “repeatedly reading the book . . . constitutes racial harassment in that you demonstrated disdain and insensitivity to your co-workers.”</b></p>
<p>I kept hearing that the Patriot Act would gang up on library readers. Where are these crickets now? Chirp chirping? No.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/05/12/be-careful-what-you-read/#comment-23340</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 23:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;The fact that my comment No. 4 is in moderation is making me think we’re already way too far down the path toward prohibited speech and prohibited thoughts.&lt;/b&gt;

If the internet was that way, Book wouldn't need Akismet for spam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>The fact that my comment No. 4 is in moderation is making me think we’re already way too far down the path toward prohibited speech and prohibited thoughts.</b></p>
<p>If the internet was that way, Book wouldn&#8217;t need Akismet for spam.</p>
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		<title>By: judyrose</title>
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		<dc:creator>judyrose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 23:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, jj. I'll have to cut that out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, jj. I&#8217;ll have to cut that out.</p>
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		<title>By: jj</title>
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		<dc:creator>jj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 22:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, ah - Judy, you're THINKING again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, ah - Judy, you&#8217;re THINKING again!</p>
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		<title>By: David Foster</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/05/12/be-careful-what-you-read/#comment-23327</link>
		<dc:creator>David Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 21:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is directly analogous to forbidding the reading (at work) of books about the Holocaust on the grounds that they might be offensive to Jews, Russians, Frenchmen, or even Germans.

Mike..."Let’s be clear: This is not the government thought police at work"...isn't this a state university? If it is, then its actions are effectively government actions, and court decisions have found that it is bound by the First Amendment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is directly analogous to forbidding the reading (at work) of books about the Holocaust on the grounds that they might be offensive to Jews, Russians, Frenchmen, or even Germans.</p>
<p>Mike&#8230;&#8221;Let’s be clear: This is not the government thought police at work&#8221;&#8230;isn&#8217;t this a state university? If it is, then its actions are effectively government actions, and court decisions have found that it is bound by the First Amendment.</p>
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		<title>By: judyrose</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/05/12/be-careful-what-you-read/#comment-23321</link>
		<dc:creator>judyrose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 19:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that my comment No. 4 is in moderation is making me think we're already way too far down the path toward prohibited speech and prohibited thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that my comment No. 4 is in moderation is making me think we&#8217;re already way too far down the path toward prohibited speech and prohibited thoughts.</p>
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