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	<title>Comments on: Moral relativism demands that we respect their choices</title>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/05/14/moral-relativism-demands-that-we-respect-their-choices/#comment-23516</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 22:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Non-Americans don't really care about how Americans laugh at their out of power politicians. The rest of the world is very happy in using American political figures as wedges to dig up America's foundation.

Carter does damage to America not from the inside, but from the outside. He has no political power per say inside the US, but for decades and even centuries rogue non-nation state actors such as pirates have prowled the world engaging in slavery, human bondage, the sex slave industry, the narcotics industry, and various other forms of exploitation and mass savagery.

Those are the people you need to worry about when you see Carter speak out on the news since those are the people providing Carter his power to squash people and kill enemies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Non-Americans don&#8217;t really care about how Americans laugh at their out of power politicians. The rest of the world is very happy in using American political figures as wedges to dig up America&#8217;s foundation.</p>
<p>Carter does damage to America not from the inside, but from the outside. He has no political power per say inside the US, but for decades and even centuries rogue non-nation state actors such as pirates have prowled the world engaging in slavery, human bondage, the sex slave industry, the narcotics industry, and various other forms of exploitation and mass savagery.</p>
<p>Those are the people you need to worry about when you see Carter speak out on the news since those are the people providing Carter his power to squash people and kill enemies.</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
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		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not the grammar, Thomas...it's the fingers!  They'll do you in every time.

I remember seeing Zulu once...trying to remember how it ended...one memory has the Zulu's leaving - just fading away after not succeeding in an attack - the other has everyone killed.  I suspect I'm conflating more than one movie and don't remember how it ends...!  But I remember wave after wave of Zulus...and only a few Brits.  And the minister and his daughter being locked into a house???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not the grammar, Thomas&#8230;it&#8217;s the fingers!  They&#8217;ll do you in every time.</p>
<p>I remember seeing Zulu once&#8230;trying to remember how it ended&#8230;one memory has the Zulu&#8217;s leaving - just fading away after not succeeding in an attack - the other has everyone killed.  I suspect I&#8217;m conflating more than one movie and don&#8217;t remember how it ends&#8230;!  But I remember wave after wave of Zulus&#8230;and only a few Brits.  And the minister and his daughter being locked into a house???</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>opps, I meant, "weren't so deadly serious."

(shaking my head) Grammar.  Always the grammar... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>opps, I meant, &#8220;weren&#8217;t so deadly serious.&#8221;</p>
<p>(shaking my head) Grammar.  Always the grammar&#8230; <img src='http://www.bookwormroom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny,

One more observation for you.  When Americans have a huge belly laugh at a politician, he's finished.  Being laughed at is the most lethal injury an American politician can receive.  

Case in point, Howard Dean.  He was blowing and going and it almost looked like he could get the nomination.  He had a couple of setbacks and suddenly he yawed.  I mean he, YEEEEEHAAWW!!!-ed himself into every comedy skit for months, and even I'm still chuckling from the memory of it.  

He became a joke.  The fact that the Democratic Party voted him as their chairman just underlines what we already know about the Democratic leadership.  Which is they no longer serve the interest of the constituents.

But getting laughed at is the thing.  And when you look at Carter, there are many laughable things; that is, if they were so deadly serious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny,</p>
<p>One more observation for you.  When Americans have a huge belly laugh at a politician, he&#8217;s finished.  Being laughed at is the most lethal injury an American politician can receive.  </p>
<p>Case in point, Howard Dean.  He was blowing and going and it almost looked like he could get the nomination.  He had a couple of setbacks and suddenly he yawed.  I mean he, YEEEEEHAAWW!!!-ed himself into every comedy skit for months, and even I&#8217;m still chuckling from the memory of it.  </p>
<p>He became a joke.  The fact that the Democratic Party voted him as their chairman just underlines what we already know about the Democratic leadership.  Which is they no longer serve the interest of the constituents.</p>
<p>But getting laughed at is the thing.  And when you look at Carter, there are many laughable things; that is, if they were so deadly serious.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny,

I don't know if that's the thing to do, but that sure would feel good, wouldn't it?  :)  

But seriously, I think the thing to do is to publicly and overtly make him a laughingstock to the nation and the world.  Expose his foundation for the fraud it is.  I think if you blare his overt statements about Israel, the Palestinians and Hamas and underline what he's done since his Presidency, it's a fine line, but I think you can begin to characterize him as a wandering narcissist wanting his fix of attention without bringing down the prestige and reverence we have for the office of the Presidency.  

This is about Carter, not the office he once filled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s the thing to do, but that sure would feel good, wouldn&#8217;t it?  <img src='http://www.bookwormroom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>But seriously, I think the thing to do is to publicly and overtly make him a laughingstock to the nation and the world.  Expose his foundation for the fraud it is.  I think if you blare his overt statements about Israel, the Palestinians and Hamas and underline what he&#8217;s done since his Presidency, it&#8217;s a fine line, but I think you can begin to characterize him as a wandering narcissist wanting his fix of attention without bringing down the prestige and reverence we have for the office of the Presidency.  </p>
<p>This is about Carter, not the office he once filled.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Lemieux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Lemieux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, Thomas. Would accept taking sending the Jimmy Carter's of the world to the sands of Arabia and pulling their passports? ;-/. Maybe we could change his sex first. Just asking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, Thomas. Would accept taking sending the Jimmy Carter&#8217;s of the world to the sands of Arabia and pulling their passports? ;-/. Maybe we could change his sex first. Just asking.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Bookworm,

When I think of the moral relativism and pacifism, I sometimes think of a fairly old movie with Michel Caine called "Zulu".  In it, you have a pacifist preacher coming upon the Britain garrison that was about to be stormed by the Zulu's.  The Zulu Empire had already massacred a British patrol on their way southward to the garrison and it fell to the handful of Redcoats to stop them from advancing further toward the British settlements.

The preacher, who eerily reminds me of Jimmy Carter, instead of steeling the soldiers from the approaching onslaughts tries to undermine the moral of the troops.  He argues with them on moral grounds, the common "Thou shalt not kill" tact.  His appeals become more and more fevered, then becoming more worse for wear with the help of some booze, he shouted, "You are all going to DIE!"

Needless to say, the British troops there who were incredibly outnumbered, didn't need a preacher whose appeals would seriously weaken the moral of the rank and file.  Such undermining could get them killed at critical junctures since split-second hesitation would be the difference between life and death in that scenario.

Seeing that the preacher was sowing fear and discontent in his soldiers, he made the civil decision to send him and his daughter away rather than killing him.  The commander needed to buck up the moral of his troops to where they would stand steady in the face of thousands of Zulu warriors descending them.  Having doubts and weak-kneed false moral dilemmas would certainly kill them.

As they sent the preacher packing on his wagon, an enlisted soldier queried, "Why is it us?  Why us?"

His sergeant responded simply, "Because we're here, lad.  Nobody else.  Just us."

That is how I view the current state of America.  The Zulu's are coming.

I know I'm being longwinded in my analogy here, but I would have to disagree with YM about "killing" Carter and other prominent undermining pacifists.  

We are facing a civilizational war with Islam; we are facing the implosion of Europe demographically (in 50 to 100 years, there won't be an Italy, a Greece, a Russia, Japan); we are facing a Chinese time bomb waiting to detonate; we are facing an oil and food crisis (they've discovered a fungus spreading like wildfire that would kill 70% of the wheat crops of the world); etc.

In the face of approaching barbarity, we must resolutely deal with reality and not hedge with pink colored glasses with moral relativism and multicultural palaver.  But to quote C.S. Lewis just because we recognize that the ship is going down, that doesn't mean that we have to be uncivil to one another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Bookworm,</p>
<p>When I think of the moral relativism and pacifism, I sometimes think of a fairly old movie with Michel Caine called &#8220;Zulu&#8221;.  In it, you have a pacifist preacher coming upon the Britain garrison that was about to be stormed by the Zulu&#8217;s.  The Zulu Empire had already massacred a British patrol on their way southward to the garrison and it fell to the handful of Redcoats to stop them from advancing further toward the British settlements.</p>
<p>The preacher, who eerily reminds me of Jimmy Carter, instead of steeling the soldiers from the approaching onslaughts tries to undermine the moral of the troops.  He argues with them on moral grounds, the common &#8220;Thou shalt not kill&#8221; tact.  His appeals become more and more fevered, then becoming more worse for wear with the help of some booze, he shouted, &#8220;You are all going to DIE!&#8221;</p>
<p>Needless to say, the British troops there who were incredibly outnumbered, didn&#8217;t need a preacher whose appeals would seriously weaken the moral of the rank and file.  Such undermining could get them killed at critical junctures since split-second hesitation would be the difference between life and death in that scenario.</p>
<p>Seeing that the preacher was sowing fear and discontent in his soldiers, he made the civil decision to send him and his daughter away rather than killing him.  The commander needed to buck up the moral of his troops to where they would stand steady in the face of thousands of Zulu warriors descending them.  Having doubts and weak-kneed false moral dilemmas would certainly kill them.</p>
<p>As they sent the preacher packing on his wagon, an enlisted soldier queried, &#8220;Why is it us?  Why us?&#8221;</p>
<p>His sergeant responded simply, &#8220;Because we&#8217;re here, lad.  Nobody else.  Just us.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is how I view the current state of America.  The Zulu&#8217;s are coming.</p>
<p>I know I&#8217;m being longwinded in my analogy here, but I would have to disagree with YM about &#8220;killing&#8221; Carter and other prominent undermining pacifists.  </p>
<p>We are facing a civilizational war with Islam; we are facing the implosion of Europe demographically (in 50 to 100 years, there won&#8217;t be an Italy, a Greece, a Russia, Japan); we are facing a Chinese time bomb waiting to detonate; we are facing an oil and food crisis (they&#8217;ve discovered a fungus spreading like wildfire that would kill 70% of the wheat crops of the world); etc.</p>
<p>In the face of approaching barbarity, we must resolutely deal with reality and not hedge with pink colored glasses with moral relativism and multicultural palaver.  But to quote C.S. Lewis just because we recognize that the ship is going down, that doesn&#8217;t mean that we have to be uncivil to one another.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 05:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out this for why, again, bad news comes in the form of supporters of terrorism.

http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/2008/05/15/little-tin-gods-diem-assassination/

It goes back to the same old ethical Dilemma. Who bears most of the responsibility, the murderer or those that release the murderer knowing that he will murder again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out this for why, again, bad news comes in the form of supporters of terrorism.</p>
<p><a href="http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/2008/05/15/little-tin-gods-diem-assassination/" rel="nofollow">http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/2008/05/15/little-tin-gods-diem-assassination/</a></p>
<p>It goes back to the same old ethical Dilemma. Who bears most of the responsibility, the murderer or those that release the murderer knowing that he will murder again?</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 04:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abu Musab Zarqawi is the terrorist and killing him is a good idea but as people have noticed, it didn't actually do much in the long term to decrease terrorism in the Sunni areas. What did change things was the Al Anbar Awakening, which formed because we killed the support for terrorism and also because the terrorists killed their own support in the province by engaging in suicide bombing of Iraqi neighborhoods and Sharia law enclaves like Fallujah.

Bush has always had the idea that to fight and get rid of terrorist support elements, you have to be in the Middle East. Bush just discounted all those terrorist support elements in the West.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abu Musab Zarqawi is the terrorist and killing him is a good idea but as people have noticed, it didn&#8217;t actually do much in the long term to decrease terrorism in the Sunni areas. What did change things was the Al Anbar Awakening, which formed because we killed the support for terrorism and also because the terrorists killed their own support in the province by engaging in suicide bombing of Iraqi neighborhoods and Sharia law enclaves like Fallujah.</p>
<p>Bush has always had the idea that to fight and get rid of terrorist support elements, you have to be in the Middle East. Bush just discounted all those terrorist support elements in the West.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 04:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don't need to kill the terrorists, you need to kill their supporters like Carter.</description>
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