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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/05/28/ch-ch-ch-changes-come-again-to-england/#comment-24160</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 23:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case you decide, based on the above post, that I am rantingly opposed to all things Muslim, including genocide, I can only direct you to this post that I have found absolutely earthshaking, though it is written by the New Republic, and though it is opposed to anything you might read on Gates Of Vienna.  Thouogh it gives no credit to Bush, nor to the real Nobel-Prize-worthy Surge, if you read it the way I did, it is simply astonishing beyond belief: Many hardline Muslims reject Al-Qaeda oriented terrorism... at least, now, today, they SEEM to.

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=702bf6d5-a37a-4e3e-a491-fd72bf6a9da1

Thank you for your time and attention,
~mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case you decide, based on the above post, that I am rantingly opposed to all things Muslim, including genocide, I can only direct you to this post that I have found absolutely earthshaking, though it is written by the New Republic, and though it is opposed to anything you might read on Gates Of Vienna.  Thouogh it gives no credit to Bush, nor to the real Nobel-Prize-worthy Surge, if you read it the way I did, it is simply astonishing beyond belief: Many hardline Muslims reject Al-Qaeda oriented terrorism&#8230; at least, now, today, they SEEM to.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=702bf6d5-a37a-4e3e-a491-fd72bf6a9da1" rel="nofollow">http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=702bf6d5-a37a-4e3e-a491-fd72bf6a9da1</a></p>
<p>Thank you for your time and attention,<br />
~mike</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/05/28/ch-ch-ch-changes-come-again-to-england/#comment-24159</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 23:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with suek, absolutely, about Gates Of Vienna.

Charles Johnson, at LGF, is engaging in a paper tiger here.  He may be somewhat justified.  However, in his absolutist vitriol, he is not justified.  

There is great worth at the Gates Of Vienna.  There is some hyperbole.  And with El Ingles, there may be more. But overall, I have found them invaluable.  And warnings of potential genocide are ALWAYS welcome!  How can anyone condemn warnings of genocide, when they are merely warnings?  It is possible, I suppose, to accuse racism.  But I myself did not see racism in the genocide warnings of El Ingles.  I did not see what Charles Johnson saw: blatant racism. 

I simply saw a reasonable warning about cultural genocide, and the risks of appeasement and subservience.  If I am wrong, I apologize in advance for my stupidity.  But in this case I think Charles Johnson is stupid, and I am not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with suek, absolutely, about Gates Of Vienna.</p>
<p>Charles Johnson, at LGF, is engaging in a paper tiger here.  He may be somewhat justified.  However, in his absolutist vitriol, he is not justified.  </p>
<p>There is great worth at the Gates Of Vienna.  There is some hyperbole.  And with El Ingles, there may be more. But overall, I have found them invaluable.  And warnings of potential genocide are ALWAYS welcome!  How can anyone condemn warnings of genocide, when they are merely warnings?  It is possible, I suppose, to accuse racism.  But I myself did not see racism in the genocide warnings of El Ingles.  I did not see what Charles Johnson saw: blatant racism. </p>
<p>I simply saw a reasonable warning about cultural genocide, and the risks of appeasement and subservience.  If I am wrong, I apologize in advance for my stupidity.  But in this case I think Charles Johnson is stupid, and I am not.</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/05/28/ch-ch-ch-changes-come-again-to-england/#comment-24140</link>
		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 16:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62;&#62;...there’s a thin line between standing up against a genuine danger and becoming a paranoid ranter.&#62;&#62;

The occasional "WHAT????" is good to make you think about what you think, though!

Here's another article on the topic that's good.  As usual...!

http://wolfhowling.blogspot.com/2008/05/god-save-caliphate.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&#8230;there’s a thin line between standing up against a genuine danger and becoming a paranoid ranter.&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>The occasional &#8220;WHAT????&#8221; is good to make you think about what you think, though!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another article on the topic that&#8217;s good.  As usual&#8230;!</p>
<p><a href="http://wolfhowling.blogspot.com/2008/05/god-save-caliphate.html" rel="nofollow">http://wolfhowling.blogspot.com/2008/05/god-save-caliphate.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bookworm</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/05/28/ch-ch-ch-changes-come-again-to-england/#comment-24135</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 15:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suek, you are absolutely right, both about the risks inherent in reading blogs and about the kerfuffle over the GoV people.  It's a reminder that, as we are all aware, there's a thin line between standing up against a genuine danger and becoming a paranoid ranter.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suek, you are absolutely right, both about the risks inherent in reading blogs and about the kerfuffle over the GoV people.  It&#8217;s a reminder that, as we are all aware, there&#8217;s a thin line between standing up against a genuine danger and becoming a paranoid ranter.</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/05/28/ch-ch-ch-changes-come-again-to-england/#comment-24130</link>
		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 15:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62;&#62;I’ve been a fan of Gates of Vienna, but I would suggest a bit of caution reading it, since Charles Johnson, whose opinion I respect, thinks it’s also a front group for the traditionally racist European far right. So, read it by all means, but understand where its authors might stand ideologically.&#62;&#62;

I think one should read _all_ blogs with a bit of caution!  It's one of those funny things that you can think you're in complete agreement with someone, and all of a sudden something comes up where you discover the someone holds a position that you find is totally out in left field.
That being said, I was reading GofV during that spat between them and LGF.  I don't know enough  to make a really informed conclusion, but it seems to me that the party he condemned as racist was in fact associated with the Nazis, but those in control of the party today are oriented against muslim takeover of the Netherlands, not anti-semite.  Just as there are those of the Libertarian Party who feel that the incursion of B Barr is antecedent to a take-over of the LP to move it to the Conservative position, there may have been the same sort of action on the part of the present members of the Dutch party.  Taking over a weak but established party is apparently a quicker means to affect the local politics than trying to start a party from scratch.  Given the relatively recent and developing strength of muslims in Holland, they felt that time was of the essence.
So, it seemed to me that LGF objected to the party that _was_, and GofV was supporting the party that _is_.  Nevertheless, whichever you may agree or disagree with, it's the only blog I know that  addresses the issue.  They are preparing the ground we may be treading soon, and I think we need to attentive to what is happening there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;I’ve been a fan of Gates of Vienna, but I would suggest a bit of caution reading it, since Charles Johnson, whose opinion I respect, thinks it’s also a front group for the traditionally racist European far right. So, read it by all means, but understand where its authors might stand ideologically.&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>I think one should read _all_ blogs with a bit of caution!  It&#8217;s one of those funny things that you can think you&#8217;re in complete agreement with someone, and all of a sudden something comes up where you discover the someone holds a position that you find is totally out in left field.<br />
That being said, I was reading GofV during that spat between them and LGF.  I don&#8217;t know enough  to make a really informed conclusion, but it seems to me that the party he condemned as racist was in fact associated with the Nazis, but those in control of the party today are oriented against muslim takeover of the Netherlands, not anti-semite.  Just as there are those of the Libertarian Party who feel that the incursion of B Barr is antecedent to a take-over of the LP to move it to the Conservative position, there may have been the same sort of action on the part of the present members of the Dutch party.  Taking over a weak but established party is apparently a quicker means to affect the local politics than trying to start a party from scratch.  Given the relatively recent and developing strength of muslims in Holland, they felt that time was of the essence.<br />
So, it seemed to me that LGF objected to the party that _was_, and GofV was supporting the party that _is_.  Nevertheless, whichever you may agree or disagree with, it&#8217;s the only blog I know that  addresses the issue.  They are preparing the ground we may be treading soon, and I think we need to attentive to what is happening there.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Lemieux</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/05/28/ch-ch-ch-changes-come-again-to-england/#comment-24118</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Lemieux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 02:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And it's not just Britain but a good part of the rest of Europe as well. The EU is going to face a tremendous number of economic and social stresses over the next 10-years. Guess who will eventually get the blame? Presbyterians?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it&#8217;s not just Britain but a good part of the rest of Europe as well. The EU is going to face a tremendous number of economic and social stresses over the next 10-years. Guess who will eventually get the blame? Presbyterians?</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 02:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every place in the world is a refuge for Jews, because usually they only move around because the local Prince or Potentate have found it convenient to blame the Jews for political or economic problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every place in the world is a refuge for Jews, because usually they only move around because the local Prince or Potentate have found it convenient to blame the Jews for political or economic problems.</p>
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		<title>By: David Foster</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/05/28/ch-ch-ch-changes-come-again-to-england/#comment-24116</link>
		<dc:creator>David Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 02:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1lulu..."The world can change very very quickly in surprising and unexpected ways"...it sure can. According to a book I was recently reading, **Germany** in the late 1920s was viewed as a place of refuge for Jews fleeing anti-Semitism in Russia and Eastern Europe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1lulu&#8230;&#8221;The world can change very very quickly in surprising and unexpected ways&#8221;&#8230;it sure can. According to a book I was recently reading, **Germany** in the late 1920s was viewed as a place of refuge for Jews fleeing anti-Semitism in Russia and Eastern Europe.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 02:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must absolutely agree with Book and others above who posted a warning to the British Jews. 

Caps On:  GET THE HELL OUT OF DODGE!

It is hard to see how Britain could morph into something where Jews would be trapped inside of Britain.  But I can see it becoming very difficult to get your assets out.  They will be more than glad to let "the swine" go, so long as everything must be left behind.

And in the meantime, the Jews will find themselves, in the coming-slowly-to-a-boil scenario, under greater and greater threat.  How long before every British Jew knows another that was a victim of violence?

Start making your plans now.

When the entire apparatus of British official culture is absolutely hostile to anything Christian, and yet can be involved in turning hospital beds towards Mecca five times daily...  you can see where this is headed.  Hatred of one's own cultural identity combined with blind enthusiasm for a foreign cultural identity...  and when that foreign cultural identity has its official attaches to the government all of the hard-line jihadist bent, and are severely devoted to ranting hatred seeking the immolation of all Jews, you need to be clear about what's coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must absolutely agree with Book and others above who posted a warning to the British Jews. </p>
<p>Caps On:  GET THE HELL OUT OF DODGE!</p>
<p>It is hard to see how Britain could morph into something where Jews would be trapped inside of Britain.  But I can see it becoming very difficult to get your assets out.  They will be more than glad to let &#8220;the swine&#8221; go, so long as everything must be left behind.</p>
<p>And in the meantime, the Jews will find themselves, in the coming-slowly-to-a-boil scenario, under greater and greater threat.  How long before every British Jew knows another that was a victim of violence?</p>
<p>Start making your plans now.</p>
<p>When the entire apparatus of British official culture is absolutely hostile to anything Christian, and yet can be involved in turning hospital beds towards Mecca five times daily&#8230;  you can see where this is headed.  Hatred of one&#8217;s own cultural identity combined with blind enthusiasm for a foreign cultural identity&#8230;  and when that foreign cultural identity has its official attaches to the government all of the hard-line jihadist bent, and are severely devoted to ranting hatred seeking the immolation of all Jews, you need to be clear about what&#8217;s coming.</p>
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		<title>By: eric-odessit</title>
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		<dc:creator>eric-odessit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 01:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talking about England, how do you like this (from LGF):
http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2008/05/universities-and-colleges-union-britain.html
And here is Melanie Philips' Article:
http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/736686/the-universities-witchhunt-against-the-jews.thtml
Churchill must be rolling in his grave.  Britain definitely came very far away from her "finest hour".
Eric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking about England, how do you like this (from LGF):<br />
<a href="http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2008/05/universities-and-colleges-union-britain.html" rel="nofollow">http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2008/05/universities-and-colleges-union-britain.html</a><br />
And here is Melanie Philips&#8217; Article:<br />
<a href="http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/736686/the-universities-witchhunt-against-the-jews.thtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/736686/the-universities-witchhunt-against-the-jews.thtml</a><br />
Churchill must be rolling in his grave.  Britain definitely came very far away from her &#8220;finest hour&#8221;.<br />
Eric.</p>
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