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		<title>By: Rhymes With Right</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/06/04/for-once-it-really-is-about-the-children/comment-page-1/#comment-24934</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhymes With Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Watcher&#039;s Council Results...&lt;/strong&gt;

The winning entries in the Watcher&#039;s Council vote for this week are The Chicken or the Egg? by Joshuapundit, and What Kind of War Crimes Trials Does Obama Plan? (Updated) by American Thinker.&#160; Here&#039;s your link to the full results......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Watcher&#8217;s Council Results&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The winning entries in the Watcher&#8217;s Council vote for this week are The Chicken or the Egg? by Joshuapundit, and What Kind of War Crimes Trials Does Obama Plan? (Updated) by American Thinker.&nbsp; Here&#8217;s your link to the full results&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Colossus of Rhodey</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/06/04/for-once-it-really-is-about-the-children/comment-page-1/#comment-24807</link>
		<dc:creator>The Colossus of Rhodey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Watcher&#039;s Council results...&lt;/strong&gt;

And now...&#160; the winning entries in the Watcher&#039;s Council vote for this week are The Chicken or the Egg? by Joshuapundit, and What Kind of War Crimes Trials Does Obama Plan? (Updated) by American Thinker.&#160; Here are the full tallies......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Watcher&#8217;s Council results&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>And now&#8230;&nbsp; the winning entries in the Watcher&#8217;s Council vote for this week are The Chicken or the Egg? by Joshuapundit, and What Kind of War Crimes Trials Does Obama Plan? (Updated) by American Thinker.&nbsp; Here are the full tallies&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Soccer Dad</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/06/04/for-once-it-really-is-about-the-children/comment-page-1/#comment-24806</link>
		<dc:creator>Soccer Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Council speak 06/13/08...&lt;/strong&gt;

The Council has spoken. The tie-breaking winner this week is Joshuapundit&#039;s excellent examination of the nature of Islamic extremism, The Chicken or the Egg? Wolf Howling&#039;s similarly themed (and excellent), analysis as it applied to a single country ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Council speak 06/13/08&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The Council has spoken. The tie-breaking winner this week is Joshuapundit&#8217;s excellent examination of the nature of Islamic extremism, The Chicken or the Egg? Wolf Howling&#8217;s similarly themed (and excellent), analysis as it applied to a single country &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Watcher of Weasels</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/06/04/for-once-it-really-is-about-the-children/comment-page-1/#comment-24802</link>
		<dc:creator>Watcher of Weasels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Council Has Spoken!...&lt;/strong&gt;

First off...&#160; any spambots reading this should immediately go here, here, here,&#160; and here.&#160; Die spambots, die!&#160; And now...&#160; the winning entries in the Watcher&#039;s Council vote for this week are The Chicken or the Egg? by Joshuap...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Council Has Spoken!&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>First off&#8230;&nbsp; any spambots reading this should immediately go here, here, here,&nbsp; and here.&nbsp; Die spambots, die!&nbsp; And now&#8230;&nbsp; the winning entries in the Watcher&#8217;s Council vote for this week are The Chicken or the Egg? by Joshuap&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Soccer Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soccer Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Submitted 06/12/08...&lt;/strong&gt;

The Watcher&#039;s Council submissions have been posted.Omaha BeachDone With Mirrors provides pictures of his uncle&#039;s encounter with history.The Global Warming CultThe Razor comprehensively takes apart many of the premises of the Global Warming religion a...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Submitted 06/12/08&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The Watcher&#8217;s Council submissions have been posted.Omaha BeachDone With Mirrors provides pictures of his uncle&#8217;s encounter with history.The Global Warming CultThe Razor comprehensively takes apart many of the premises of the Global Warming religion a&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Watcher of Weasels</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/06/04/for-once-it-really-is-about-the-children/comment-page-1/#comment-24696</link>
		<dc:creator>Watcher of Weasels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Submitted for Your Approval...&lt;/strong&gt;

First off...&#160; any spambots reading this should immediately go here, here, here,&#160; and here.&#160; Die spambots, die!&#160; And now...&#160; here are all the links submitted by members of the Watcher&#039;s Council for this week&#039;s vote. Council li...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Submitted for Your Approval&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>First off&#8230;&nbsp; any spambots reading this should immediately go here, here, here,&nbsp; and here.&nbsp; Die spambots, die!&nbsp; And now&#8230;&nbsp; here are all the links submitted by members of the Watcher&#8217;s Council for this week&#8217;s vote. Council li&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
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		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 02:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;I’m thinking seriously about having children with my female co-pilot but I understand that is a completely separate issue from marriage.&gt;&gt;

How so?

Does your &quot;female co-pilot&quot; _want_ to have your children?  Is she committed to a (minimum) 20 year dedication of her life to raising these children?  Actually more, if you plan on more than one.  What do you plan as your involvement with your children?  How will you guarantee that involvement?  How do you insure that you have some involvement if she decides to make other choices?  Do you consider her free to make other choices?  What happens to your &quot;co-pilot&quot; and your children if something happens to you - if you have a lasting disability or die?  How about your parents?  do they have any connection with you at this stage of your life?  would they want a connection to their grandchildren?  What about hers?

You may have guessed that I find your statement bizarre...

Women who don&#039;t demand marriage before agreeing to have babies are nuts, imo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;I’m thinking seriously about having children with my female co-pilot but I understand that is a completely separate issue from marriage.&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>How so?</p>
<p>Does your &#8220;female co-pilot&#8221; _want_ to have your children?  Is she committed to a (minimum) 20 year dedication of her life to raising these children?  Actually more, if you plan on more than one.  What do you plan as your involvement with your children?  How will you guarantee that involvement?  How do you insure that you have some involvement if she decides to make other choices?  Do you consider her free to make other choices?  What happens to your &#8220;co-pilot&#8221; and your children if something happens to you &#8211; if you have a lasting disability or die?  How about your parents?  do they have any connection with you at this stage of your life?  would they want a connection to their grandchildren?  What about hers?</p>
<p>You may have guessed that I find your statement bizarre&#8230;</p>
<p>Women who don&#8217;t demand marriage before agreeing to have babies are nuts, imo.</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/06/04/for-once-it-really-is-about-the-children/comment-page-1/#comment-24509</link>
		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Girls are merely sexual objects.&gt;&gt; 

And isn&#039;t this odd - given that the whole basis for the women&#039;s lib movement(as opposed to women&#039;s equality movement) was supposed to be that women didn&#039;t want to be viewed as &quot;just&quot; sexual objects!  So in order to achieve &quot;equality&quot;, women think they should be as sexually promiscuous as men choose to be, and men then lick their chops with a &quot;please don&#039;t throw me in the briar patch&quot; attitude, women become sexual objects, and the family does down the drain!  Great progress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Girls are merely sexual objects.&gt;&gt; </p>
<p>And isn&#8217;t this odd &#8211; given that the whole basis for the women&#8217;s lib movement(as opposed to women&#8217;s equality movement) was supposed to be that women didn&#8217;t want to be viewed as &#8220;just&#8221; sexual objects!  So in order to achieve &#8220;equality&#8221;, women think they should be as sexually promiscuous as men choose to be, and men then lick their chops with a &#8220;please don&#8217;t throw me in the briar patch&#8221; attitude, women become sexual objects, and the family does down the drain!  Great progress.</p>
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		<title>By: bse53</title>
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		<dc:creator>bse53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proverbs 29:18 says &quot;When people do not accept divine guidance, they run wild. But whoever obeys the law is joyful.&quot; (NLT)

Popular music is vulgar bordering on obscene. Girls are merely sexual objects.

Middle school girls show sexually suggestive videos of themselves on Youtube, acting out the fantasies of vulgar boys, looking for the approval they didn&#039;t receive from their absent fathers. 

Discussions of sexuality are thrust on kindergarten students.

In this hyper-sexual society, the mall plays a instrumental version of the Rolling Stones, &quot;I Can&#039;t Get No Satisfaction&quot; as background music-- the lyrics of which include &#039;I&#039;m trying to get some girl pregnant&#039;.

I used to work with junior high school students in a church progam. I remember once the subject of sex came up, the kids very honestly asked if I believed that a person could refrain from sex until marriage. They certainly didn&#039;t think so.

I think Margeurite&#039;s points are dead on.

If these attitudes weren&#039;t enough to deal with, the homosexual agenda adds another dimension to the problem.

A strong community- family, extended family, &#039;the neighborhood&#039; can help, but the solution is really spiritual. 

Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proverbs 29:18 says &#8220;When people do not accept divine guidance, they run wild. But whoever obeys the law is joyful.&#8221; (NLT)</p>
<p>Popular music is vulgar bordering on obscene. Girls are merely sexual objects.</p>
<p>Middle school girls show sexually suggestive videos of themselves on Youtube, acting out the fantasies of vulgar boys, looking for the approval they didn&#8217;t receive from their absent fathers. </p>
<p>Discussions of sexuality are thrust on kindergarten students.</p>
<p>In this hyper-sexual society, the mall plays a instrumental version of the Rolling Stones, &#8220;I Can&#8217;t Get No Satisfaction&#8221; as background music&#8211; the lyrics of which include &#8216;I&#8217;m trying to get some girl pregnant&#8217;.</p>
<p>I used to work with junior high school students in a church progam. I remember once the subject of sex came up, the kids very honestly asked if I believed that a person could refrain from sex until marriage. They certainly didn&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>I think Margeurite&#8217;s points are dead on.</p>
<p>If these attitudes weren&#8217;t enough to deal with, the homosexual agenda adds another dimension to the problem.</p>
<p>A strong community- family, extended family, &#8216;the neighborhood&#8217; can help, but the solution is really spiritual. </p>
<p>Brian</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
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		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike...
It sounds like your problem is no leaders.  You&#039;re not willing/able to step up?
In the&quot;old days&quot; in the military, we had active wives clubs...Officer&#039;s wives clubs, NCO wives clubs, and Enlisted wives clubs.  The wives clubs were responsible for providing that feel of community you mention, and for providing assistence when it was necessary.Wives were expected to take on various responsibilities as was appropriate to the rank of their husbands.  In my early days as a military wife, that was accepted.  In the later days, there were questions raised as to why it was appropriate for a wife to have &quot;rank&quot;, as it were.  Disregarding abuse - there are always one or two - the reason it was appropriate is that otherwise the necessary leadership roles simply wouldn&#039;t have time to develop.  We moved around too often.  A three year tour or less was normal, and it takes time for a need to arise and for the person capable of addressing the need to develop the skills necessary.  Having a routine of things that needed to be done, and over the years developing the skills needed to _get_ them done - by virtue of assignment rather than by volunteer - resulted in a smooth flow.  Everybody knew their job, and mostly, it got done.  Some were better than others, but most at least made an effort and got some semblance of the job required done.  In the civilian community, you just have to wait for someone to decide to step up to the plate.  Nobody &quot;assigns&quot;, nobody says &quot;it&#039;s your job&quot; - PTA is probably as close to that as it gets.  
So - if you think there&#039;s a need...fill it.  That&#039;s the only way the job gets done.  Even if you start by just talking to people...talking about how it isn&#039;t the same...what can we do?...do you feel a loss?  If you don&#039;t want to step forward, maybe if you talk to enough people, someone else will...maybe someone just needs a bit of a push.

Keeping the government out is good - but that means that _we_ the people have to do what needs to be done.  We rarely have church suppers any more, but block parties are good!  I think I even have some old magazine articles on organizing block parties step by step that I could scan and send you!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike&#8230;<br />
It sounds like your problem is no leaders.  You&#8217;re not willing/able to step up?<br />
In the&#8221;old days&#8221; in the military, we had active wives clubs&#8230;Officer&#8217;s wives clubs, NCO wives clubs, and Enlisted wives clubs.  The wives clubs were responsible for providing that feel of community you mention, and for providing assistence when it was necessary.Wives were expected to take on various responsibilities as was appropriate to the rank of their husbands.  In my early days as a military wife, that was accepted.  In the later days, there were questions raised as to why it was appropriate for a wife to have &#8220;rank&#8221;, as it were.  Disregarding abuse &#8211; there are always one or two &#8211; the reason it was appropriate is that otherwise the necessary leadership roles simply wouldn&#8217;t have time to develop.  We moved around too often.  A three year tour or less was normal, and it takes time for a need to arise and for the person capable of addressing the need to develop the skills necessary.  Having a routine of things that needed to be done, and over the years developing the skills needed to _get_ them done &#8211; by virtue of assignment rather than by volunteer &#8211; resulted in a smooth flow.  Everybody knew their job, and mostly, it got done.  Some were better than others, but most at least made an effort and got some semblance of the job required done.  In the civilian community, you just have to wait for someone to decide to step up to the plate.  Nobody &#8220;assigns&#8221;, nobody says &#8220;it&#8217;s your job&#8221; &#8211; PTA is probably as close to that as it gets.<br />
So &#8211; if you think there&#8217;s a need&#8230;fill it.  That&#8217;s the only way the job gets done.  Even if you start by just talking to people&#8230;talking about how it isn&#8217;t the same&#8230;what can we do?&#8230;do you feel a loss?  If you don&#8217;t want to step forward, maybe if you talk to enough people, someone else will&#8230;maybe someone just needs a bit of a push.</p>
<p>Keeping the government out is good &#8211; but that means that _we_ the people have to do what needs to be done.  We rarely have church suppers any more, but block parties are good!  I think I even have some old magazine articles on organizing block parties step by step that I could scan and send you!!</p>
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