You mean like when George Washington and the Founding Fathers exiled and told the Colonial Loyalists that they must leave for Canada, after the 13 Colonies had won the Revolutionary War?

That did great things for America, since it left the complainers somewhere else while leaving the true believers behind to work and build things up.

I gave you an explanation for why people respond to your comments the way they sometimes have.

Why this means your political opponents have voices in their own heads, is not very clear.

Methinks people are reading way too much into his posts.

Given that O has a husband, I tend to think that’s her hint that he’s a she.

According to my husband, who went to Ireland last year, the Irish no longer see America as a great shining beacon.

Let’s wrap this little argument up in spades.

Your view is that it depends on opinion, because you give neither respect nor time to objective criteria standards, whether America is best in anything.

Our view is that there exists a fundamental underlying reality that decides for us what is “best” or not. That our opinions do not change this underlying reality one way or another, not directly at least.

Given such things, you have invalidated your own opinions, O, from our consideration. We cannot consider your views valid or even deserving of respect for it is just opinion and can never be anything more than opinion. And just like arm pits, everyone has one or two.

The same applies to you, O, for you can never partake of our epistemological system which premises reality on an objective standard say the standard on who has won a war. You say it’s just opinion, that if the Irish now see that America is worse because they are ignorant enough to believe European media, that this means America is no longer best. And America was better and best in the past because the Irish thought America was better.

In the final tally, O, what matters to you is how good your people’s propaganda is. Europe’s anti-America propaganda is extremely good and thus can convince countless millions that America is not better and nor is America the best nation in the world, in the history of the world.

That’s not what matters to us, of course.

While you may not do it here or elsewhere, that is usually what moral relativists do. That’s just the trend and there’s nothing I can do to change the statistics about that.

But, would they see? I had a very wealthy Brazilian tell me that they were so fortunate that there was no poverty in their city, unlike Rio and Sao Paulo. She apparently simply did not see the families living in cardboard containers underneath every overpass; and the multiude of pitiful souls begging around the fringes of the downtown park–which you would never enter at night. Very convenient.

Yes, America has made some mistakes….show me a superpower that hasn’t. Every dominant culture since the dawn of time has made mistakes, but what makes America great is that we own our mistakes and move on.

Overall, our society works because we have made a policy of assimilating our immigrants and making them a part of the fabric of our country instead of relegating them to ghettos (and I use this term in it’s historical context) to live an insular life isolation from the rest of us. This is the mistake the Europeans have made and it’s coming back to bite them now.

I love my Country, and I am proud of its accomplishments.

I am the first to get my hair up at the rampant anti-Americanism exhibited by Leftist jerks (Democrats include) who miss no opportunity to blame America first.

However, I really haven’t read anything by Ozzie that has been in any way offensive. Methinks people are reading way too much into his posts. What gives?

But you can’t admit that because that would provide objective proof for why America is better. - Ymar

At the time America WAS better than Ireland, especially for those who were hungry and looking for a better life.

According to my husband, who went to Ireland last year, the Irish no longer see America as a great shining beacon.

Bummer.

“It’s just cause you sound like a moral relativist and excuser for things like UN corruption.” - Ymar

What the hell?

Yeah. When I’m not being typically Irish, and discussing ways America is the “root of all evil” I spend my days excusing UN corruption.

Some of you are reading my words and then filling in bizarre details from the voices in your own heads.

Concerning your comment to Ozzie: “You are one of those morbid Americans who should really go to some foreign country, tear up your passport, and live among the people who are being ruled by an honest-to-god dictator. Try being as powerless as they are, then whine to me that America is the root of all evil.”

If all the Americans who said this or something similar to an American or group of Americans who were dissatisfied with some aspect of American life took their own advise and left, those of us with the complaints to fix them. Then we’d really have the nation you think we have now. You could return and see the improvement.

It’s just cause you sound like a moral relativist and excuser for things like UN corruption.

Most moral relativists are also anti-Americans, but not all. All, however, are more or less nihilists of one sort or another.