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	<title>Comments on: Marin County&#8217;s hidden conservatives *UPDATED*</title>
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		<title>By: read this</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/08/03/marins-countys-hidden-conservatives/comment-page-2/#comment-139242</link>
		<dc:creator>read this</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 14:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;read this...&lt;/strong&gt;

Bookworm Room » Marin Countys hidden conservatives *UPDATED*...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>read this&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Bookworm Room » Marin Countys hidden conservatives *UPDATED*&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Thank you &#171; lookingforlissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thank you &#171; lookingforlissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BrianE</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/08/03/marins-countys-hidden-conservatives/comment-page-2/#comment-27295</link>
		<dc:creator>BrianE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is an old topic, but Seraphic Secret has a recent post about this:

Secret Confessions of a Hollywood Movie Star

that is a definite read.

And he was way ahead of the curve writing this article in 2005:

&quot;Help! I&#039;m a Hollywood Republican&quot;

http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=627B40F1-F7F6-4C15-B190-045C40A1B21F]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an old topic, but Seraphic Secret has a recent post about this:</p>
<p>Secret Confessions of a Hollywood Movie Star</p>
<p>that is a definite read.</p>
<p>And he was way ahead of the curve writing this article in 2005:</p>
<p>&#8220;Help! I&#8217;m a Hollywood Republican&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=627B40F1-F7F6-4C15-B190-045C40A1B21F" rel="nofollow">http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=627B40F1-F7F6-4C15-B190-045C40A1B21F</a></p>
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		<title>By: Right Wing News</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/08/03/marins-countys-hidden-conservatives/comment-page-2/#comment-27191</link>
		<dc:creator>Right Wing News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 02:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;McCainiacs thinking outside of the box...&lt;/strong&gt;

In 1980 (and again in 1984), Ronald Reagan won in significant part because traditionally Democratic voters abandoned their party to vote for him. Those same &quot;Reagan Democrats&quot; have shown up frequently in the news today. Indeed, McCain is specifically...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>McCainiacs thinking outside of the box&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>In 1980 (and again in 1984), Ronald Reagan won in significant part because traditionally Democratic voters abandoned their party to vote for him. Those same &#8220;Reagan Democrats&#8221; have shown up frequently in the news today. Indeed, McCain is specifically&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Zhombre</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/08/03/marins-countys-hidden-conservatives/comment-page-2/#comment-27110</link>
		<dc:creator>Zhombre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, suek.  Honestly, amoeba is what came to mind.  A sort of undifferentiated plasma of like minds.  How can you include those who exclude you or don&#039;t have any strong opinions one way or the other about you but who wish to be excluded?  Some people simply prefer being left alone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, suek.  Honestly, amoeba is what came to mind.  A sort of undifferentiated plasma of like minds.  How can you include those who exclude you or don&#8217;t have any strong opinions one way or the other about you but who wish to be excluded?  Some people simply prefer being left alone.</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
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		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[She&#039;s saying that you shouldn&#039;t reject those who reject you.  That the only way to achieve unity is to incorporate even those who disagree with you.  That otherwise you have polarization, and dissension.

Sounds rather amoebic to me.  You can consume poison, but if it stays within your system, it will still kill you.  What does it profit a man if he achieves unity but suffers the loss of his soul??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#8217;s saying that you shouldn&#8217;t reject those who reject you.  That the only way to achieve unity is to incorporate even those who disagree with you.  That otherwise you have polarization, and dissension.</p>
<p>Sounds rather amoebic to me.  You can consume poison, but if it stays within your system, it will still kill you.  What does it profit a man if he achieves unity but suffers the loss of his soul??</p>
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		<title>By: Zhombre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zhombre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Helen, I don&#039;t have the foggiest idea what you said.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helen, I don&#8217;t have the foggiest idea what you said.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen Losse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen Losse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To become truly inclusive, we must include those who exclude others and, maybe even, us. Otherwise, we’re still part of the “we-they” problem, having done nothing but changed sides.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To become truly inclusive, we must include those who exclude others and, maybe even, us. Otherwise, we’re still part of the “we-they” problem, having done nothing but changed sides.</p>
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		<title>By: Gradchica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gradchica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 02:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Professors regularly ranted against Bush during the last election cycle before class would start (and sometimes during class), just assuming we grad students were behind them. Woe to the one &quot;out of the closet&quot; conservative who was called on the carpet each time to answer for anything any Republican has ever done that the prof didn&#039;t agree with (nope, that wasn&#039;t me, I hadn&#039;t become conservative yet, but even so, such behavior made me very uncomfortable). 

So now I drive around my university town--to the organic market, the Whole Foods, and the recycling center--with my pro-life bumper stickers and my organic food cloth bags, and just to further just stump people, I let them know I&#039;m a vegetarian (yet, at the same time fervently praying that my profs won&#039;t find out about my extra-curricular activism before my qualifying exams, and cringing when my colleagues would ask for rides). The pro-life stuff might be fobbed off on my being a Catholic (obviously brainwashed, since &quot;thinking people&quot; wouldn&#039;t actually believe stuff like absolute truth), but do I dare put a McCain sticker on my car or a sign in my window? I&#039;ll keep my car un-keyed, thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professors regularly ranted against Bush during the last election cycle before class would start (and sometimes during class), just assuming we grad students were behind them. Woe to the one &#8220;out of the closet&#8221; conservative who was called on the carpet each time to answer for anything any Republican has ever done that the prof didn&#8217;t agree with (nope, that wasn&#8217;t me, I hadn&#8217;t become conservative yet, but even so, such behavior made me very uncomfortable). </p>
<p>So now I drive around my university town&#8211;to the organic market, the Whole Foods, and the recycling center&#8211;with my pro-life bumper stickers and my organic food cloth bags, and just to further just stump people, I let them know I&#8217;m a vegetarian (yet, at the same time fervently praying that my profs won&#8217;t find out about my extra-curricular activism before my qualifying exams, and cringing when my colleagues would ask for rides). The pro-life stuff might be fobbed off on my being a Catholic (obviously brainwashed, since &#8220;thinking people&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t actually believe stuff like absolute truth), but do I dare put a McCain sticker on my car or a sign in my window? I&#8217;ll keep my car un-keyed, thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: 1Lulu</title>
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		<dc:creator>1Lulu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is sad that so many Conservatives feel the need to hide their beliefs, living like Marranos fleeing the Inquisition. This would be a fascinating sociology dissertation-but would never  grace the halls of UC Berkeley.
I know I am more open-minded now as a Conservative than I ever was as a Liberal. I accepted certain positions, was certain I had more moral virtue, reacted emotionally, and was poorly informed. For example, as an undergrad at UCB I was distraught and nearly cried when I heard Reagan was running for president. I laughed at his film festival, &quot;ha, someone who wants to be president made a movie with a chimpanzee. What a moron&quot;. He was bad, I knew it. Problem was, even then I knew that I did not know any of his positions or past actions. I judged, based on prejudice and family and social pressure. Ditto the one I voted for- just followed the party line. A free thinker? Not.


I judged others too. I was appalled by smart people I knew who held Conservative views. I couldn&#039;t hear them. It was a process of years, and it started with me learning and understandning the issues. Now I can explain why I think the way do. rarely is there a Liberal who wants to hear it.

I know many people who are unaware that the positions they support are conservative. I have been tempted to reply to an acquaintance who sent me an article, &quot;Are you aware that Krauthammer (article&#039;s author) is a leading conservative thinker and that  the reason that you had to send his article is because there is no one in the party which you religiously support who is willing to say the same thing?&quot; But, what&#039;s the point? She despises Bush, still has a Kerry bumpersticker on her car ( and what does that mean? I believe it is a sign of Bush protest but also a sign of lack of support for Nobama).

It is sad, Helen, that I would not be willing to dissent in a staff meeting where my tolerant co-workers would categorize me and verbally attack me. Why bother? In a small gathering I might, depending upon who was there, but Helen, if people do not feel safe expressing their views to their progressive colleagues and friends, something is seriously wrong. I am tired of Conservatives being portrayed as the equivalent of the KKK. The tolerant left will tolerate no dissension. Irony.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is sad that so many Conservatives feel the need to hide their beliefs, living like Marranos fleeing the Inquisition. This would be a fascinating sociology dissertation-but would never  grace the halls of UC Berkeley.<br />
I know I am more open-minded now as a Conservative than I ever was as a Liberal. I accepted certain positions, was certain I had more moral virtue, reacted emotionally, and was poorly informed. For example, as an undergrad at UCB I was distraught and nearly cried when I heard Reagan was running for president. I laughed at his film festival, &#8220;ha, someone who wants to be president made a movie with a chimpanzee. What a moron&#8221;. He was bad, I knew it. Problem was, even then I knew that I did not know any of his positions or past actions. I judged, based on prejudice and family and social pressure. Ditto the one I voted for- just followed the party line. A free thinker? Not.</p>
<p>I judged others too. I was appalled by smart people I knew who held Conservative views. I couldn&#8217;t hear them. It was a process of years, and it started with me learning and understandning the issues. Now I can explain why I think the way do. rarely is there a Liberal who wants to hear it.</p>
<p>I know many people who are unaware that the positions they support are conservative. I have been tempted to reply to an acquaintance who sent me an article, &#8220;Are you aware that Krauthammer (article&#8217;s author) is a leading conservative thinker and that  the reason that you had to send his article is because there is no one in the party which you religiously support who is willing to say the same thing?&#8221; But, what&#8217;s the point? She despises Bush, still has a Kerry bumpersticker on her car ( and what does that mean? I believe it is a sign of Bush protest but also a sign of lack of support for Nobama).</p>
<p>It is sad, Helen, that I would not be willing to dissent in a staff meeting where my tolerant co-workers would categorize me and verbally attack me. Why bother? In a small gathering I might, depending upon who was there, but Helen, if people do not feel safe expressing their views to their progressive colleagues and friends, something is seriously wrong. I am tired of Conservatives being portrayed as the equivalent of the KKK. The tolerant left will tolerate no dissension. Irony.</p>
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