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		<title>By: Bookworm Room &#187; Obama&#8217;s self love</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookworm Room &#187; Obama&#8217;s self love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 01:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Stanley Kurtz for having the temerity to investigate Obama&#8217;s role in the Annenberg Challenge, I pointed out that, when narcissists debate, their own needs and feelings are always ground zero in ... &#8212; and I added that Obama had so far shown that this was his preferred style of debate: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Stanley Kurtz for having the temerity to investigate Obama&#8217;s role in the Annenberg Challenge, I pointed out that, when narcissists debate, their own needs and feelings are always ground zero in &#8230; &#8212; and I added that Obama had so far shown that this was his preferred style of debate: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
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		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another interesting one...

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/letters/articles/2008/08/31/son_sees_fathers_handiwork_in_convention/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another interesting one&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/letters/articles/2008/08/31/son_sees_fathers_handiwork_in_convention/" rel="nofollow">http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/letters/articles/2008/08/31/son_sees_fathers_handiwork_in_convention/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read this  

http://www.city-journal.org/html/16_3_ed_school.html

To see what Ayers has been up to and why Obama is so afraid of being linked to him, directly or even indirectly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read this  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.city-journal.org/html/16_3_ed_school.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.city-journal.org/html/16_3_ed_school.html</a></p>
<p>To see what Ayers has been up to and why Obama is so afraid of being linked to him, directly or even indirectly.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;•  Use the talking points above to help you speak confidently and concisely.&lt;/b&gt;

That’s the basic low down on propaganda operations, Book. I get an idea and then I convince 500,000 people to repeat those ideas as if they themselves came up with it.

This is how you spread from one sector of control to many sectors of control. A mini ink blot conquest strategy.

Advertisement, 1 to 1 marketing, subterfuge and espionage, all deal in such things in one fashion or another.

&lt;B&gt;Several of the callers did not even know Stanley’s name, most had obviously never read a sentence of his meticulous research, and more than simply read verbatim from the Obama talking points.&lt;/b&gt;

People often are unconvinced when I say that the Left are full of useful tools who simply need a master and they’ll be on board, ready and willing to do what people like me tell them to do.

How many more incidents like this will it take to convince people that propaganda and those that have mastered it, are about acquiring tools and using them? Yet, people continue to think this is “grass roots”, “democracy”, “liberty”, or the various other clap trap they were fed from deception arts so far beyond their understanding that it would be like comparing Abu Musab Al Zarqawi with David Petraeus.

The Art of Propaganda is more powerful than nuclear weapons, for there are no limitations on the Art of Propaganda (no law, no Bill of Rights, and no recourse for the weak except to engage in counter-propaganda) while nuclear weapons have severe limitations on how many times they may be used. In fact, by the time one nuclear weapon has been used, the Art of Propaganda has been used 77 trillion times in discrete chunks.

By the time the nuclear weapon leaves the missile silos or bomb bay doors, the people dropping them will have been subverted by propaganda, thus raising the interesting question of paradox; once propaganda succeeds, can weapons ever even be used if people can’t consider a reason for it?

&lt;B&gt;From that point on, everything devolves into pure attack mode.&lt;/b&gt;

It makes sense, when you want to destroy an enemy, you do what I do. Go into hunter killer mode. Whether you are evil or good, wise or foolish, the basic necessities of reality require that you attack if you wish to win. Civilization is actually anti-nature in terms of realistic standards, for civilization promotes cooperation and restraint. Nature does not particularly care for cooperation; it only cares for strength and survival. Mankind has wrapped around a safety net or social net on this little reality, however.

&lt;B&gt;  I can assure you that the nation will not be happier for having such hostile, self-aggrandizing, self-pitying people in charge and, worse, out to get you.&lt;/b&gt;

The Palestinians supported Arafat until the bitter, clinging, end, Book. And the same will be true for Obama and his religious disciples.


&lt;B&gt;One more thing about narcissists is that since it’s all about them, they are not aware of the effect of their behavior on others and deny it when it is pointed out to them.&lt;/b&gt;

That’s because other people don’t exist for them; others are just props, not human beings. After all, only the narcissist is ‘real’; only the narcissist and his emotions matter.

&lt;B&gt;It is unnerving to see so many enraptured by Obama- swooning like a revival meeting.&lt;/b&gt;

The ‘so many’ you see are just weak minded people. They need something to believe in; they need a strong man to tell them what to do. Look at Iraq: until the US stepped up to the plate and decided how things will go with Petraeus in command, every weak minded idiot in Iraq went to the insurgency to fight for independence or whatever.

If you don’t gain control of the tools, the insurgency (meaning your enemies the Left) will gain control of those tools. It is as simple as that. When you don’t control the land and the people on it, somebody else will come in and grab it.

Most Americans think that this American Golden Age about cooperating, sharing, social nets, and truth/justice is the natural order of things. No, the natural order of things is the law of the jungle: something the Democrats practice all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>•  Use the talking points above to help you speak confidently and concisely.</b></p>
<p>That’s the basic low down on propaganda operations, Book. I get an idea and then I convince 500,000 people to repeat those ideas as if they themselves came up with it.</p>
<p>This is how you spread from one sector of control to many sectors of control. A mini ink blot conquest strategy.</p>
<p>Advertisement, 1 to 1 marketing, subterfuge and espionage, all deal in such things in one fashion or another.</p>
<p><b>Several of the callers did not even know Stanley’s name, most had obviously never read a sentence of his meticulous research, and more than simply read verbatim from the Obama talking points.</b></p>
<p>People often are unconvinced when I say that the Left are full of useful tools who simply need a master and they’ll be on board, ready and willing to do what people like me tell them to do.</p>
<p>How many more incidents like this will it take to convince people that propaganda and those that have mastered it, are about acquiring tools and using them? Yet, people continue to think this is “grass roots”, “democracy”, “liberty”, or the various other clap trap they were fed from deception arts so far beyond their understanding that it would be like comparing Abu Musab Al Zarqawi with David Petraeus.</p>
<p>The Art of Propaganda is more powerful than nuclear weapons, for there are no limitations on the Art of Propaganda (no law, no Bill of Rights, and no recourse for the weak except to engage in counter-propaganda) while nuclear weapons have severe limitations on how many times they may be used. In fact, by the time one nuclear weapon has been used, the Art of Propaganda has been used 77 trillion times in discrete chunks.</p>
<p>By the time the nuclear weapon leaves the missile silos or bomb bay doors, the people dropping them will have been subverted by propaganda, thus raising the interesting question of paradox; once propaganda succeeds, can weapons ever even be used if people can’t consider a reason for it?</p>
<p><b>From that point on, everything devolves into pure attack mode.</b></p>
<p>It makes sense, when you want to destroy an enemy, you do what I do. Go into hunter killer mode. Whether you are evil or good, wise or foolish, the basic necessities of reality require that you attack if you wish to win. Civilization is actually anti-nature in terms of realistic standards, for civilization promotes cooperation and restraint. Nature does not particularly care for cooperation; it only cares for strength and survival. Mankind has wrapped around a safety net or social net on this little reality, however.</p>
<p><b>  I can assure you that the nation will not be happier for having such hostile, self-aggrandizing, self-pitying people in charge and, worse, out to get you.</b></p>
<p>The Palestinians supported Arafat until the bitter, clinging, end, Book. And the same will be true for Obama and his religious disciples.</p>
<p><b>One more thing about narcissists is that since it’s all about them, they are not aware of the effect of their behavior on others and deny it when it is pointed out to them.</b></p>
<p>That’s because other people don’t exist for them; others are just props, not human beings. After all, only the narcissist is ‘real’; only the narcissist and his emotions matter.</p>
<p><b>It is unnerving to see so many enraptured by Obama- swooning like a revival meeting.</b></p>
<p>The ‘so many’ you see are just weak minded people. They need something to believe in; they need a strong man to tell them what to do. Look at Iraq: until the US stepped up to the plate and decided how things will go with Petraeus in command, every weak minded idiot in Iraq went to the insurgency to fight for independence or whatever.</p>
<p>If you don’t gain control of the tools, the insurgency (meaning your enemies the Left) will gain control of those tools. It is as simple as that. When you don’t control the land and the people on it, somebody else will come in and grab it.</p>
<p>Most Americans think that this American Golden Age about cooperating, sharing, social nets, and truth/justice is the natural order of things. No, the natural order of things is the law of the jungle: something the Democrats practice all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: dg</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this comment on the American Thinker&#039;s article on the Ayers-Obama link:

Why is it OK for McCain to bomb innocent children but not OK for Ayers to bomb buildings to protest McCain&#039;s bombs?

Was it a just war? Not according to ex-Secretary of Defense Robert MacNamara, who ought to know since he ran the war for seven years. Read his book: &quot;In Retrospect&quot;.

Posted by: Marvin Sussman &#124; August 24, 2008 02:26 AM 


Maybe this is why Ayers and Dohrn can teach at respectable universities and work in respectable law firms...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this comment on the American Thinker&#8217;s article on the Ayers-Obama link:</p>
<p>Why is it OK for McCain to bomb innocent children but not OK for Ayers to bomb buildings to protest McCain&#8217;s bombs?</p>
<p>Was it a just war? Not according to ex-Secretary of Defense Robert MacNamara, who ought to know since he ran the war for seven years. Read his book: &#8220;In Retrospect&#8221;.</p>
<p>Posted by: Marvin Sussman | August 24, 2008 02:26 AM </p>
<p>Maybe this is why Ayers and Dohrn can teach at respectable universities and work in respectable law firms&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh please oh please oh please, let the reports be true, let it be Sarah Palin.
This is a truly fantastic choice in every way.  If true.

(To make this even vaguely relevant to the Book post that I&#039;m adding this comment to, Mrs. Palin is as far from a narcissist as you can get!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh please oh please oh please, let the reports be true, let it be Sarah Palin.<br />
This is a truly fantastic choice in every way.  If true.</p>
<p>(To make this even vaguely relevant to the Book post that I&#8217;m adding this comment to, Mrs. Palin is as far from a narcissist as you can get!)</p>
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		<title>By: benning</title>
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		<dc:creator>benning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The attacks from the Leftists, defending Obama from any criticism, are part-and-parcel of the Leftist Doctrine. Unlike the claims that the Right promotes violence, the Left inspires and revels in violence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The attacks from the Leftists, defending Obama from any criticism, are part-and-parcel of the Leftist Doctrine. Unlike the claims that the Right promotes violence, the Left inspires and revels in violence.</p>
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		<title>By: 1Lulu</title>
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		<dc:creator>1Lulu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helen,
Being president of the United States is a job more challenging than average, I think you would agree. I want the person  in that role to have particular abilities, convictions, candidness, and experience. I don&#039;t think Obama has demonstrated these qualifications in any way that gives me confidence in his ability to be commander in chief- the leader of the free world. He is a blank slate, and in these post 9-11 days we can&#039;t afford to take a leap of faith into the unknown. He is campaigning on charisma and hope, not on his resume of success or ideas. I find this scary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helen,<br />
Being president of the United States is a job more challenging than average, I think you would agree. I want the person  in that role to have particular abilities, convictions, candidness, and experience. I don&#8217;t think Obama has demonstrated these qualifications in any way that gives me confidence in his ability to be commander in chief- the leader of the free world. He is a blank slate, and in these post 9-11 days we can&#8217;t afford to take a leap of faith into the unknown. He is campaigning on charisma and hope, not on his resume of success or ideas. I find this scary.</p>
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		<title>By: Gringo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gringo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helen: 
&lt;i&gt;“If you don’t have a record to run on, then you paint you opponent as someone people should run from.” Barack Obama&lt;/i&gt;

When BHO&#039;s  changing of positions  makes JFKerry, the poster child for  flip-flop, seem like the Rock of Gibraltar by comparison, it becomes rather difficult to determine WHAT his  record is, except for &lt;b&gt; VOTE FOR ME. &lt;/b&gt;


&lt;i&gt;Then make this election about ideas, not character assassination.&lt;/i&gt;

I  dunno , I really thought that BHO had a brilliant fantasy there, that keeping tires inflated could substitute for all proposed increases in onshore and offshore drilling, Alaska and lower 48. All the drilling, said BHO. And BHO&#039;s  comparing Russia in Georgia in 2008 to our  deposing Saddam Hussein was also spot on. After all, Iraqis had re-elected Saddam with 94% or was it 98% or was it 99.5% of the vote. After all, the UN Security Council had passed 17 resolutions against Georgia. 
Like they say, A MAN A PLAN PANAMA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helen:<br />
<i>“If you don’t have a record to run on, then you paint you opponent as someone people should run from.” Barack Obama</i></p>
<p>When BHO&#8217;s  changing of positions  makes JFKerry, the poster child for  flip-flop, seem like the Rock of Gibraltar by comparison, it becomes rather difficult to determine WHAT his  record is, except for <b> VOTE FOR ME. </b></p>
<p><i>Then make this election about ideas, not character assassination.</i></p>
<p>I  dunno , I really thought that BHO had a brilliant fantasy there, that keeping tires inflated could substitute for all proposed increases in onshore and offshore drilling, Alaska and lower 48. All the drilling, said BHO. And BHO&#8217;s  comparing Russia in Georgia in 2008 to our  deposing Saddam Hussein was also spot on. After all, Iraqis had re-elected Saddam with 94% or was it 98% or was it 99.5% of the vote. After all, the UN Security Council had passed 17 resolutions against Georgia.<br />
Like they say, A MAN A PLAN PANAMA.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen Losse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen Losse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“If you don’t have a record to run on, then you paint you opponent as someone people should run from.”  Barack Obama

read entire speech http://i.usatoday.net/news/politics/election2008/pdf/obama-full-text-8-28-2008.pdf

Then make this election about ideas, not character assassination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“If you don’t have a record to run on, then you paint you opponent as someone people should run from.”  Barack Obama</p>
<p>read entire speech <a href="http://i.usatoday.net/news/politics/election2008/pdf/obama-full-text-8-28-2008.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://i.usatoday.net/news/politics/election2008/pdf/obama-full-text-8-28-2008.pdf</a></p>
<p>Then make this election about ideas, not character assassination.</p>
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