Apparently it’s Palin *UPDATE*

Information or disinformation? It’s hard to tell right now.  The AP article expresses surprise that McCain would pick a neophyte for a VP when he’s been attacking Obama for being a neophyte.  Apparently the AP reporter is confused about the difference between being a VP (a good place for on-the-job training) and being President (a bad place for that same training).

The American Thinker has put together a list of Palin’s virtues.

UPDATE: Not misinformation.  Those we know have confirmed.

UPDATE II: One other good thing about Palin:  she’ll give McCain the credible cover he needs for making an about face on ANWR drilling.

UPDATE III: Confederate Yankee looks a little more closely at the instantly appearing smear that Palin, who ran on an anti-corruption platform, used her office to try to fire an ex-brother-in-law.

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  1. Ellie2 says

    Palin is a smart choice and tells us good things about McCain. I agree it’s time to turn the generational page and if Palin campaigns well will make the point. The Palin pick is said to be signaling a coming shakeup in Washington. Please, to G*D’s ears!

  2. Tiresias says

    Easily the most intelligent thing McCain has yet done.

    She’s 44, a mother of five (including a Down Syndrome baby born last year that she did not choose to abort); flies her own float plane; life-long member of the NRA; a conservative, former beauty queen; hunts, shoots, fishes; has been demanding that congress get with the program and drill in the ANWR already, since we can do it with complete environmental safety. She’s a rather high-energy person.

    And she’s a Washington outsider, a mayor, and a governor (someone who runs something), and she’s a she – all of which makes one gigantic contrast with that worn out, life-long, inside-the-beltway, plagiarizing hack Obama chose. She is herself about eight times as qualified to be President as Obama is. (Maybe, given her executive experience, more qualified than McCain is…)

    Given the general liberal disappointment with his show last night (wow, even Tom Blojaw didn’t think he said much), whatever “bounce” Obama might have gotten lasted somewhat less than fifteen hours.

    A brilliant choice. An inspired choice. And not just to nail Obama, she’d be a good choice at any time.

    (Already heard the first democrat whining about the fact that this choice costs McCain his “maverick” label. “This wasn’t the choice of a maverick, this is a conservative choice!” Like that’s a bad thing.)

  3. BrianE says

    Just watched her acceptance speech.
    She will quickly disabuse the notion that she is a political ploy.
    Very articulate, down to earth speech- fearless comes to mind.
    Whether she can attract Hillary voters remains to be seen, given her very conservative, traditional life story.
    As a man, I’m curious about her husband– this is an interesting role for him.

  4. BrianE says

    The message of the speech was reform. She emphasized McCain as a reformer, willing to stand up to Republicans on principle. She pointed out that she bucked the Republican “good old boy” system of Stevens– refusing the Bridge to Nowhere, and going after waste in state government.
    Given the approval rating of Congress, I’m betting she is going to continue highlighting McCain the Maverick, since she speaks with experience, and given her limited time as governor, this may her role, rather than the tradiitonal role of VP as attack dog.
    Her acceptance speech was impressive, and I noticed a style that is hard for women to pull off, tough yet feminine.
    I would love to see her in a debate with Hillary in four years.

  5. dg says

    Palin is a great choice for McCain. He seizes the outsider/change mantle from Obama the day after it was placed by Dems upon him. And he captures some of the disgruntled blue collar female voters in Scranton, Youngstown and Detroit unimpressed by Biden and still mad at the nominee. In one bold strike, McCain placates conservatives while revitalizing his own maverick/reformer credentials. Palin’s only “blemish” (according to the LA Times) concerning the abuse of power in the ex-brother-in-law firing will ultimately prove a non-issue, since the guy in question regularly tasered 14 year olds; moreover, it was her prerogative as Governor to fire him. While her fiscal responsibility record is unimpressive considering the negative income taxes of the oil-rich state, most voters will only remember her cleaning up such spending projects as the “bridge to nowhere.” Alaska’s politics is as corrupt as Illinois’, but Palin has risen above it so far, floating on 80-90% approval ratings in the state. She does lack experience versus other potential VP choices, but Obama’s own light resume creates an opening. In short, she’s a fresh face with great conservative credentials, reformist reputation and a squeaky-clean history. This ought to help McCain a lot in the key swing states of Pennsylvania, Ohio and Michigan.

  6. Tiresias says

    The rhetoric, of which Obama is supposed to be a master, has put him into some interesting places.

    The democrats just spent four days doing everything they could – EXCEPT anything real – to pander to women. The unfortunate reality is that Obama has spent the last year doing everything he could to keep a woman from being nominated for the Presidency – and now he’s going to spend the next two months doing everything he can to prevent a woman from becoming VP. (His campaign, it turns out, didn’t even bother to vet Hillary as a VP candidate, she was a non-starter from the word “go.” [Which I completely understand, she'd bring Bill - but still...]) AND – he’s going to do this with female voters?

    Forgive me for supposing… maybe not.

    He took a shot at John McCain last night for having been in the senate for lo these many years while stuff that should have been stopped was going on; where the hell does he think Joe Biden was? (More importantly, how stupid does he think we are that we don’t know that? When Biden first went to the senate, McCain was occupying a suite in the Hanoi Hilton.)

    These great rhetorical flourishes for which he’s famous are cementing him into quite a crack.

  7. Gringo says

    BrianE
    As a man, I’m curious about her husband– this is an interesting role for him.

    My immediate reaction is to think of Dennis Thatcher. If memory serves me correctly, at one time National Lampoon had a monthly column featuring his “diaries.”

    I cannot imagine that a commercial fisherman and oilman would be comfortable campaigning all over the US. In terms of spouses being uncomfortable in the national spotlight, I am reminded of Pat Nixon, Mamie Eisenhower, and Bess Truman. ( Some saw Pat Nixon as a phony. That was simply a measure of her being unable to dissimulate her discomfort in the spotlight.)

    I would feel more comfortable with her choice as a VP candidate if she had at least a term as governor. She appears to be rather competent. I see her as a parallel with Harry Truman, who were both “of the people” and who both operated honestly in corrupt political environments. It is as if Truman were selected for VP after a term or two as Jackson County judge (an administrative position). One point in her favor compared to Truman is that she has attacked the corruption sooner in her career than he did, which I believe Truman didn’t do until his second term as Senator when he investigated the issue in WW2 military-industrial contracts.

    In any event, I get the impression that she is a quick study. For all our sakes, she had better be! If McCain is elected, I do not see him as any more than a one-termer. I cannot see someone operating at age 79 as President. Call me ageist.

  8. Zhombre says

    Oh that McCain. He won’t play fair! The day after Obama accepts the Democrat nomination and makes The Speech of a Lifetime, what does McCain do? Introduces this Alaskan amazon reformer hockey mom salmon-fishing NRA shotgun-toting pro-life down to earth five kids one in uniform former beauty queen Governor as his running mate. How dare he! Doesn’t that cantankerous and senile old man know that the proper Republican response to Democrat calls for change and end to divisive politics is to be supine, to roll over and play dead while Obama unites the country, uniting it of course under the terms of the liberal agenda. And this woman has no qualifications to be one heartbeat away from the Presidency. It’s not like she was a community organizer or a constitutional law professor.

  9. BobK says

    This morning I was resigned to pulling the lever for McCain. Now I’m excited to vote, maybe even actively work for this ticket. Great political timing on the announcement as well. The Obama campaign was given a big push toward the doldrums… the wind is definitely leaving those sails.

    How about this one… Palin/Jindal 2012?

  10. BrianE says

    Gringo,

    I get the impression that she is a quick study. For all our sakes, she had better be!

    Second that. Obviously Biden will go after her on foreign policy positions.

    The media (CNN) is repeating the mantra that McCain’s criticism of Obama as unqualified because of his lack of foreign policy experience has been neutralized by Palin’s pick, since she is “one heart-beat away from the presidency”.
    Let’s see, Obama, who has the same amount of foreign policy experience except for the Rock Tour, is less than a heartbeat away, if elected.
    The second left talking point is that Palin has less experience than Obama. I would ask the question– less experience doing what? What exactly has Barack done? What legislation has be championed in the Senate? How many budgets has be balanced? How many tax bills has be signed?
    The reason Senators are lousy choices for President is they live in the fantasy land of American politics. Budget doesn’t balance? Borrow more money. Or take more from the “wealthy”. Give a speech. Problem solved.
    Governors don’t have the luxury. They are forced to make compromises, to do the heavy lifting of balancing the state budget. Except maybe for Ahhnold.
    This is why McCain was smart to pick a governor, though I did say I hoped the country would never vote for the governor of a small state again (come to think of it I said small southern state).

  11. Mike Devx says

    This isn’t the first time I’ve heard Mrs. Palin speak. I was impressed then, and I’m even more impressed now. Truly 100% confident and assured, yet without any of the Obama arrogance and preening elitism that keeps rearing it’s ugly visage. Extremely well-spoken and nuanced and paced.

    And one more thing. 100% American, 0% multi-lateral internationalist. I feel so proud at this moment, and I have no idea why.

    Certainly I don’t know very much about Mrs. Palin except that she was vetted enough to be able to become Governor of Alaska. Of course, Alaska is responsible for the sickeningly corrupt, foul excretions that are Ted Stevens and Don Young, so actually that alone is not saying much of anything. The fact that Mrs. Palin has no use for Ted Stevens and Don Young says ***volumes*** about her integrity and the sincerity of her anti-corruption and reform agenda.

    And that’s why I’m so geeked, so jazzed, and so proud, I guess. My anathema for Hillary Clinton was always based on the noxious cloud of corruption that poisoned the atmosphere around her and Bill. Corruption is the huge no-go issue for me. The fact that Mrs. Palin – Sarah Barracuda for those who want to cheer her! – is even cleaner than McCain on corruption is just… so… wonderful.

    In the future, I will be following the charge about the urging of the firing of the trooper who was her brother-in-law. But I am reserving judgment until we all find out a lot more.

  12. Bonzo says

    Tiresias said:
    “She flies her own float plane”.

    ——
    I’m feeling the way many too many ladies felt when Sarkozy got married.

    I need to look closer.

    ;)

  13. Ozzie says

    McCain has energized the base, that’s for sure.

    Palin seems likable, and her refusal to abort her Down Syndrome baby is a plus.

    On the other hand, from my understanding, she would like to outlaw abortion in cases of rape and incest, too. Not sure how moderates and Independents will feel about that.

    As late as 2007, (by her own admission) she wasn’t very interested in the war in Iraq. And, before last week, she only met John McCain once, and in a recent interview (a couple weeks ago), she still didnt seem to know much about Iraq.

    Then, too, she backed Buchanan over McCain in 2000, though the base doesn’t really care for McCain anyway, so maybe that won’t hurt her.

    My major issue is the war in Iraq, as well as the fallout which will be felt for decades to come. I didnt vote in 2006, as I knew the Democrats were pandering and would not deliver on their promises. For the most part, I have had the same concerns about Obama.

    I have always liked John McCain as a person, though I disagree with him on the war (and on the way he dumped his first wife).. I like that Obama always held my views on the war in Iraq, but, much like the Democrats of 2006, wonder if he can deliver on his promises.

    This VP pick has brought two questions to mind: Is the “Buchanan Right” one heartbeat away from the presidency? And would a diehard Dennis Kuccinich (sp?)supporter ever be in the same position?

  14. Ozzie says

    She pointed out that she bucked the Republican “good old boy” system of Stevens– refusing the Bridge to Nowhere- Brian

    She may be outside the beltway, as they say, but she’s savvyan.

    She already scrubbed video of Stevens’ endorsement from her Web site http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nTX-oJUCaU . . . .and kept the Bridge to Nowhere funds for her state.

    As governor, she’d be drummed out of office if she gave the money back, but as candidate for federal office, it’s wise to look as if you wanted no part of it.

    From Editor and Publisher:

    “It also brought up an intriguing fact. Palin in her speech on Friday — also a point used by McCain surrogates — is that she refused to go along with the plan to build the so-called “bridge to nowhere” in her state, wanting to halt wasteful spending. But the Fairbanks editorial points out that the state still kept the money for the project. . ”

    http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003844472

    “She will quickly disabuse the notion that she is a political ploy” – Brian

    If you truly beleive that, don’t open that Editor and Publisher link!

  15. BrianE says

    Well Ozzie, there you go again.

    You’ve got most of the left’s talking points, but you’re missing the experience thingy.

    Now to some facts:
    Rumor that Palin was Pat Buchanan’s 1996 State Director? oops. False. She has never donated any money to any of Buchanan’s campaigns. Palin became a Steve Forbes campaigner.

    1999, responding to a story about her Buchanan support:

    [Palin] promptly responded to the [AP] story in a letter to the editor, that “the article may have left your readers with the perception that I am endorsing this candidate, as opposed to welcoming his visit to Wasilla. As mayor, I will welcome all the candidates in Wasilla.”

    How many Presidential candidates have visited Wasilla? Hell, if Dennis Kucinich stopped in my town, I’d wear his button that day.

    As to Buchanan, he was staunchly opposed to the Iraq war, as he felt it was at the behest of the Israeli lobby. As I understand it, the grand strategy of Iraq was to fundamentally change the dynamic in the ME. Saddam was supporting terrorists in Israel, our hope that regime change in Iraq would result in popular uprising in Iran, eliminate Syria as a surrogate for Iran and encourage the Palestinians to accept the Camp David agreement. Someone could make the case our ME policy was for the benefit of Israel– and the Palestinians for that matter (at least the average Palestinian being used as a pawn by radical Islamists).
    I thought you were against the war. Doesn’t that put you in the same camp as Buchanan?

    As to her “lack of interest in Iraq”. I’m sure she had an opinion. It would be nice if more politicians who don’t have expertise in complex subjects wouldn’t spout off. Like certain politicians who thought they knew more about military strategy than say… the military (think Obama vs Petraeus). I’m sure she will soon be up to speed on the subject, applying her conservative principals to arrive at a policy in line with those principals. Something no doubt coherent and certainly not pandering.

    I’m glad you like McCain as a person. What do you like most– his irascibility or his stubbornness?

    I’m kind of partial to the media’s “Grumpy Old Men” characterization myself.

  16. Ellie2 says

    “On the other hand, from my understanding, she would like to outlaw abortion in cases of rape and incest, too. Not sure how moderates and Independents will feel about that.” Ozzie

    Oz, I am a pro-Choice moderate. Part of the essence of being “Pro-Choice” is accepting that others may take a different view.

  17. Ozzie says

    Rumor that Palin was Pat Buchanan’s 1996 State Director?- Brian

    Brian, I dont pay any attention to talking points. I find them vile.

    Given that “1996” wasnt found anywhere in my post, however, I suspect you might be on a mailing list or two.

    And please note that I didnt even mention whether or not she backed Buchanan in 1996, though the other day, on MSNBC, Buchanan mentioned that Palin was a “brigadeer” for him in 1996, whatever that means.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0808/Buchanan_Palin_was_a_brigader_for_me_in_96.html

    And yes, the reason I didn’t mention 1996 was because I knew she backed Steve Forbes in 96. But you got all jumpy.

    And as for her explanation for wearing a Buchanan button during the 2000 campaign?

    “How many Presidential candidates have visited Wasilla? Hell, if Dennis Kucinich stopped in my town, I’d wear his button that day.”- Palin

    Well, there you have it. No need to look any further.

    ” As to her “lack of interest in Iraq”. I’m sure she had an opinion.” – Brian

    In 2007, she told Alaska Business Monthly. “I’ve been so focused on state government, I haven’t really focused much on the war in Iraq.. . . ”

    So, yes, she has an opinion, just maybe not a very informed one? She was interviewed again a couple weeks ago in an audio that’s making its rounds. It wil be used agsint her, I’m sure.

    “What do you like most– his irascibility or his stubbornness?” – Brian

    I liked him more when he lambasted the religious right, instead of pandering to it, but I find him charming, for the most part.

    I find him funny and quick-witted.

    And, while I think it’s deplorable the way he dumped wife No. 1, I also like him for adopting that child from Bangladesh and not killing Karl Rove following the 2000 South Carolina whisper campaign.

  18. Ozzie says

    Oz, I am a pro-Choice moderate. Part of the essence of being “Pro-Choice” is accepting that others may take a different view- ellie

    I agree, Ellie.

    But most others aren’t in a position to try to make sure their views become policy.

    I think her views are meant as red meat for the base – and to try to attract Pennsylvania Catholics, the way Joe Biden is supposed to attract PA Catholics for Obama.

    Someone said that there’s no “political ploy” happening with this pick. YeahRightSure. . .

  19. BrianE says

    By the way, the quote in post 22, was from another post. The comment about Kuchnich wasn’t Palin’s quote. Her quote ended with “…I will welcome all the candidates in Wasilla”.

    Hey Ozzie, I thought you were the person who didn’t like using websites for documentation? You know there is a biography about Palin. Check out Amazon.
    I’m sure you would much rather source that than these snarky websites, especially since you think she’s a nice person.

    Anyway here is part of the editorial in the News-Miner by Demot Cole.

    National GOP spokesmen—including the VP also-rans—went on and on Friday about how Palin is to “the right” of John McCain, that she is an “economic conservative” and that she will attract supporters of Hillary Clinton to the Republican party.

    She is an engaging and charming politician and I have nothing negative to say about her character, her tenacity or her service to our state.

    I don’t even have major concerns about her performance as governor. She is smart and excels in dealing with people one-on-one.

    I like what she did on oil taxes and think her gas line plan may work in the long run, though that won’t be clear for years.

    This is one of the most stunning news events in the history of Alaska.

    However, in no way does her year-and-a-half as governor of Alaska qualify her to be vice president or president of the United States.

    http://newsminer.com/news/2008/aug/29/palin-unqualified-serve-vice-president/

    So who is this expert Demot Cole, that knows so much about national politics that he knows she’s not qualified? He’s written four books about Alaska with scintillating titles such as “Fairbanks: A Pictorial History” and “Amazing Pipeline Stories: How Building the trans-Alaska Pipeline Transformed Life on America’s Last Frontier,” He moved to Alaska in 1974 and graduated from the University of Alaska Fairbanks. He writes a daily interest column for the News-Miner.

    More instructive, and equally authoritative are the responses to the editorial. Here is a sampling for you enjoyment:

    Dermot Cole – You have certainly shown your true colors in slamming Governor Sarah Palin’s nomination for Vice President of the United States of America! You have not held her hand, looked directly into her eyes, and talked to her on a personal, one on one basis…..I have! I am proud to say I supported her from day one in her candidancy for Governor of this great state. She has taken on the “good old boys network”, the “big oil” consortium, and others. Her leadership and intelligence has faced down our corruption problems head on and shown she is truly there for us. I am happy and proud we can share her great attributes with the rest of the nation, though I am saddened we are losing her, one of the best Governors’ Alaska has ever seen. May God Bless Governor Sarah Palin and God Bless the U.S.A.

    I see that you don’t like our Governor, eh Cole? Who would you have suggested? Oh, wait … you don’t like McCain either, so you don’t really care, do you? As the other readers have written, she will do far better than your “expectations.” And I bet there will be more who will agree with me.

    Reading the national blogs, one thing keeps coming up again and again…
    There are lots of people across this country who will be very surprised by our Governor. And Democrats are doing themselves no good at setting the expectations bar so low.
    Do I think she is the best candidate for VP in the Republican Party? No. But not for the reasons being talked about (her inexperience in political office). I seriously question her understanding of law, and the currently-investigated affair with her brother-in-law demonstrates a side of her that was careful kept from Alaska media during the gubernatorial election, a temper and vindictiveness that underscores the nickname “Barracuda”.
    But to suggest that our governor won’t be able to debate and fight with “the big boys” in DC shows that the people saying that don’t know her at all. She’s stood up to – and beaten – Alaskan Republicans that had the rest of the national Republican party licking their boots – and made them like it.
    McCain picked a woman, yes – but that isn’t why he picked our Governor. He picked someone who unifies the Reagan coalition of social and fiscal conservatives, which was falling apart. He insulated himself from the “elitist” charge. He chose a person whose spouse is part-minority, a union member, and a small business owner.
    McCain has gambled away the “experience” card in his deck. He may have picked up a Queen. With the expectation bar being set so low, Sarah Palin will easily jump way over it – which will cause people in the rest of the country, esp. women who claim to be “outraged” that McCain was being “insulting” by just picking any woman, to take a second look at her.
    Sarah Palin is not Hillary Clinton. But she sure as heck is not Dan Quayle. To compare her is him risks having many, including ex-Hillary supporters, to judge her favorably and miss that her positions may not be in line with theirs.

  20. BrianE says

    The reality of the abortion debate, is that overturning Roe v. Wade won’t outlaw abortion. Washington state had legalized abortion before Roe v. Wade was decided. The battle will turn to the states, and it will continue to be legal in most states.

  21. BrianE says

    This is her quote:

    [Palin] promptly responded to the [AP] story in a letter to the editor, that “the article may have left your readers with the perception that I am endorsing this candidate, as opposed to welcoming his visit to Wasilla. As mayor, I will welcome all the candidates in Wasilla.”

    Let me repeat, the Kucinich comment was not Palin’s, merely editorializing.

  22. BrianE says

    Given that “1996″ wasnt found anywhere in my post, however, I suspect you might be on a mailing list or two.

    hey, thanks for the props, but was just covering all the bases.
    No mailing lists here, unless you count all those viagra e-mails I keep getting.

  23. Ozzie says

    Hey Ozzie, I thought you were the person who didn’t like using websites for documentation?- Ozzie

    Once again, Brian, I dont like heresay when it comes to what the CIA did or didnt do. If you want to know what occured, look for delcassifed info. In my mind, books that have been vetted by the CIA are a great starting point. Authors have a viewpoint, tis true, but if you’re interested in Iran in 1953 or Iraq in 63 or Chile in 73, you’ll have a place to start.

    That said, I also belevie that the Web and YouTube are fine for looking up interviews and seeing what candidate and politicians said, though, but when it comes to politics, you have always be on the look out for those who try to twist what candidates say or for zealots who will lie to further an agenda.

    “You know there is a biography about Palin. Check out Amazon.” — Brian

    I am 100% not interested in reading a book about Ms Palin , just as I’m not planning on reading any Joe Biden biographies, either. It’s all a dog and pony show to me.

    “The comment about Kuchnich wasn’t Palin’s quote. Her quote ended with “…I will welcome all the candidates in Wasilla”. – Brian

    I dont understand where you are coming from. In my mind, wearing a button with a candidates’ name signals support for that candidate. There’s a difference in “welcoming” someone and actively supporting them, no?

    I believe that she supported Buchanan in the 2000 election. I’m guessing you see it otherwise?

    But even so, I dont doubt for one minute that that we’ll see TONS of op eds hailing Palin’s virtues. And I dont think Buchanan will hurt Palin, in the end. Other things might, but not that.

    But let me ask you this: If it’s true she supported Buchanan in 2000, SHOULD it hurt her?

  24. Ozzie says

    The reality of the abortion debate, is that overturning Roe v. Wade won’t outlaw abortion. Washington state had legalized abortion before Roe v. Wade was decided. The battle will turn to the states, and it will continue to be legal in most states. – Brian

    I’ve heard this. If this is true, why the hubbub over Roe v Wade and Supreme Court nominations? But more importantly (especially when it comes to “values voters”) does reality even MATTER when it comes to getting votes?

    In each case, the VP selection appears to be made to appeal to a certain demographic. Palin will appeal to the GOP’s far right base (and compete for Pennsylvania’s Catholics), while Biden was also selected with Pennsylvania in mind.

    Llike others here, I’m wary of the cult of personality surrounding Obama — and dont understand why he makes Oprah’s eyelashes fall off or changes Kanye West’s life.

    But I am also hesitant to hail Palin as a “wonderful choice” or imagine that a “political ploy” isnt EXACTLY what MCain had in mind.

    I’m not likely to find myself worshipping at the altar of any candidate any time soon.

    But McCain’s choice is fascinating. As are peoples’ reactions.

  25. BrianE says

    This an article in Human Events written earlier in the year:

    Author’s note 8/29/2008: When veteran Massachusetts political consultant Holly Robichaud returned from the Alaska Republican convention back in April, she strongly urged me to interview Gov. Sarah Palin and predicted the governor would be a political superstar. Thus, my first “veepstake” feature was done. But never did I expect the interview Holly so kindly arranged would prove prophetic…

    Less than a week before our interview, Palin sent a political shockwave out from the state Republican convention in Anchorage when she endorsed Lieutenant Gov. Sean Parnell in his challenge against the state’s 35-year Republican congressman-at-large, Don Young. The governor explained that the move is part of her vision of Alaska now “in a prime position to contribute more to the United States and to quit relying on the federal government to pay our bills for us.” As all these changes take place, she told us, “it’s going to take a change of character, and a change of personality, even, in terms of the representation that we have in Washington, D.C. coming from Alaska. Sean Parnell is, I think, a perfect person to manifest that change that is coming, that is needed, on behalf of Alaska. He wants to serve for the right reasons. He’s very selfless. And he’s very much a person taking ‘public service’ literally” — a not-too-subtle reference to VEECO Corporation head Rick Smith, a longtime Young associate, to bribery and conspiracy charges.

    As for whether she would take the same stance against 40-year Republican Sen. Ted Stevens, who is the subject of an FBI investigation as he seeks re-election, Palin would only say “I’m going to withhold judgment there. I don’t see a candidate who’s jumped into his race yet who I would feel wholeheartedly in support of at this point. So there’s still weeks, a couple months, even, to go, before we make the decision on Sen. Stevens.”

    A McCain-Palin ticket in ’08? Unlikely. But Gov. Palin as a future Republican leader and politician worth watching? There’s little argument there.

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=25717

    Notice the reference to changing personalities, and the way business is done in Washington. This was before any claim of posturing could be leveled.

    Ozzie said:

    But I am also hesitant to hail Palin as a “wonderful choice” or imagine that a “political ploy” isnt EXACTLY what MCain had in mind.

    Ozzie you’re too cynical. McCain is a shrewd politician, but I don’t think he’s all that conniving. I think Sarah Palin is going to reinforce the reform message of McCain. She’s going to sell the American people on the notion that change, real reform of Washington politics, is going to occur only by electing John McCain. And people are going to listen to her, because her resume demonstrates it’s not empty talk.
    Barack Obama is an empty suit, talking the game of reform, but has nothing to show that he has the skill to do that. There is no experience there.

    People in this country are disgusted with Congress, and the very down to earth style of both Palin and McCain are well suited to the message. McCain will take on Barack, the neophyte. Palin will take on Biden, the insider.

    I think he was also drawn to her independent streak. Mr Maverick meet Mrs. Maverick.

    If they can peel off some Hillary votes, so much the better.

  26. Ozzie says

    Ozzie you’re too cynical. – Brian

    And I think you’re too naive. Would McCain have chosen her if she wasnt a woman? Not a chance.

    “McCain is a shrewd politician, but I don’t think he’s all that conniving.. ” Brian

    They’re ALL that conniving, Brian. And it’s gettng more obvious every day.

    Republicans see it in Democrats and wonder why-oh-why they can’t see through the Obama/Biden fluff-fest. Democrats see it in Republicans and wonder why-oh-why Republicans are so clueless. It’s always refreshing when people stop being automatons and see it for what it is. As a matter of fact, a couple NRO bloggers (including David Frum) had some nice pieces on this issue.

    “If they can peel off some Hillary votes, so much the better.” – Brian

    But, by your logic, McCain wasn’t even thinking that.

  27. suek says

    >>books that have been vetted by the CIA are a great starting point>>

    What does “vetting” mean? does it mean that all statements concernting the CIA and CIA related activities are accurate? I assumed that it meant that the CIA had reviewed the material to see that anything it didn’t want made public was removed, not that it had anything to do with accuracy of the the material.

  28. BrianE says

    I’m assuming that people can have more than one goal at the same time, and sometimes the goals overlap.
    If this were all about politics, they wouldn’t have picked Palin. You think the paid strategists were on her side? No way. I think this was a McCain decision.
    You surely don’t think Palin is going to move the diehard feminist do you? What Palin is going to do is add some angst to the independents and moderates– those that think partial birth abortion is sick. McCain knew her unwavering pro-life position.

    Would McCain have chosen her if she wasnt a woman? Not a chance.

    That hurts my head to contemplate! The philosophical implications are too much. Palin is a tough minded (small business tough), independent thinker (Alaska bred), conservative (Christian), woman. He could have picked Hutchinson if he wanted to go after the Hillary vote.
    He chose Palin, in my opinion, for the reasons I’ve already stated, in the order of importance I stated.
    John McCain took a position two years ago, when it seemed political suicide, advocating the surge. Had it not been successful, or had it not been implemented, he wouldn’t be the candidate today.
    I do think that speaks to his military experience– calculated risk taking. Although he did not sacrifice principle for politics in this case.

  29. Ozzie says

    What does “vetting” mean? does it mean that all statements concernting the CIA and CIA related activities are accurate? I assumed that it meant that the CIA had reviewed the material to see that anything it didn’t want made public was removed, not that it had anything to do with accuracy of the the material.- suek

    The CIA is not going to let anyone make unfounded, wild-eyed accusations. An author can’t go around saying the U.S was invovled in this or that coup without it being true — and without the the information having been declassifed.

  30. Ozzie says

    You think the paid strategists were on her side? No way. I think this was a McCain decision.- Brian

    McCain only met with Palin once before last week – and that was way back in Feb. Either her Wingsong REALLy stayed on his mind, or the strategists helped him decide..

  31. BrianE says

    McCain only met with Palin once before last week – and that was way back in Feb. Either her Wingsong REALLy stayed on his mind, or the strategists helped him decide..

    I thought presidents had people that do the leg work, provide the raw intelligence, provide courses of action and then the president makes the decision. What’s so hard about that to understand. McCain is not Jimmy Carter. I don’t think he will be mired in detail.
    Sounds to me like initial meeting to size her up. Staff goes to work. Meets with her again to assess staff recomendations and a chance to confirm compatibility and shared values.
    Make decision.

  32. Ozzie says

    I thought presidents had people that do the leg work, provide the raw intelligence, provide courses of action and then the president makes the decision. What’s so hard about that to understand- Brian

    Well, Brian. Like the assertion that Palin wore a Buchanan button just to be welcoming, it’s hard to know what’s true. Mayor or no mayor, I woud never wear a button even remotely endorsing a politician whose policies I disagreed with. I dont feign affection. Perhaps that’s why I’ve never been a mayor, eh? I could be totally off the mark, however and could be 100% wrong.. Even so, I’d have to be in a movie or episode of Law & Order to wear a Bush/Cheney button, because I’d be acting my a** off.

    So, yes, maybe McCain made this decision on his own and has entirely noble, non-strategic intentenions. And maybe this isnt a political ploy.

    Then too, maybe Obama is “the One.”

    I tend to be more cynical as you say. Or perhaps just more pragmatic?

    In any event, some NRO bloggers are as wary as I am:

    Ramesh Ponnuru

    Tokenism. Can anyone say with a straight face that Palin would have gotten picked if she were a man?

    http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MWY0YmM3N2JhMTVkYmI0ZjU0OTBiYTY3NmUyMjgxNTc

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    David Frum

    The longer I think about it, the less well this selection sits with me. And I increasingly doubt that it will prove good politics. The Palin choice looks cynical. The wires are showing

    http://frum.nationalreview.com/post/?q=M2VhOWE0N2VkOWI3MDdlODRlZWE4ODljMDc2NjliZDk=
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    Shannen Coffin

    McCain has thus made a purely political play without regard for the governance concerns. And how could he really have a good idea of how she would govern? My understanding is that he only met with her once before choosing her.
    http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MTA1MTI2ZjJjMzIwYmE2ZGIxNDAzNDk4NDcwZjg4MDg

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  33. BrianE says

    Even so, I’d have to be in a movie or episode of Law & Order to wear a Bush/Cheney button, because I’d be acting my a** off.

    Have you lived in a small town? Everyone tends to be nice to each other, at least to their face. She was being a good representative of the town. No doubt someone in Wasillis was a Buchanan supporter.
    And wearing a Buchanan button wouldn’t be as difficult as a Gore supporter wearing a Bush button.

  34. BrianE says

    So, yes, maybe McCain made this decision on his own and has entirely noble, non-strategic intentenions. And maybe this isnt a political ploy.

    I didn’t say it didn’t have strategic intentions. He needs the Republican base enthusiastically behind him, he now has a partner to champion his reformer status, and if Palin comes across as authentic, will help with the moderate democrat and independent woman.

  35. Ozzie says

    Have you lived in a small town? Everyone tends to be nice to each other, at least to their face- Brian

    I grew up in a small town where my father was the editor and publisher of the local newspaper. He was a Republican, but I doubt that he’d wear a Pat Buchanan button, regardless. But yes, I get that some people would rather be “nice” than be honest and authentic. Maybe Palin did wear a Buchanan button just to be polite. Hardly a “Maverick” thing to do, but maybe that’s so.

    “He needs the Republican base enthusiastically behind him, he now has a partner to champion his reformer status, and if Palin comes across as authentic, will help with the moderate democrat and independent woman.” — Brian

    He’s ignited the base, for sure, but initial polls are showing that Palin actually HURTS McCain with Independents and women.

    http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/undecideds-dont.html

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