<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Doom and gloom</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/09/24/doom-and-gloom/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/09/24/doom-and-gloom/</link>
	<description>Conservatives deal with facts and reach conclusions; liberals have conclusions and sell them as facts.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:19:20 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: suek</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/09/24/doom-and-gloom/comment-page-2/#comment-30085</link>
		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=3846#comment-30085</guid>
		<description>Communism is still alive and well in the USA.  In fact, most of the demonstrations we see are organized by and populated by various communistic groups, whose primary goal is the downfall of the USA, whether through socialism, globalism - any means.  They share that goal with the islamicists,  and if they suceed, it&#039;s anyone&#039;s guess who will kill whom.  They&#039;re both amoral when it comes to human life.

http://www.cpusa.org/

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Election2008/Default.aspx?id=210820

http://rwor.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Communism is still alive and well in the USA.  In fact, most of the demonstrations we see are organized by and populated by various communistic groups, whose primary goal is the downfall of the USA, whether through socialism, globalism &#8211; any means.  They share that goal with the islamicists,  and if they suceed, it&#8217;s anyone&#8217;s guess who will kill whom.  They&#8217;re both amoral when it comes to human life.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cpusa.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cpusa.org/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.onenewsnow.com/Election2008/Default.aspx?id=210820" rel="nofollow">http://www.onenewsnow.com/Election2008/Default.aspx?id=210820</a></p>
<p><a href="http://rwor.org/" rel="nofollow">http://rwor.org/</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/09/24/doom-and-gloom/comment-page-2/#comment-30071</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 04:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=3846#comment-30071</guid>
		<description>A quick comment on Ozzie&#039;s #16 and my #22,

Ozzie, I think we would agree that Democrats did not foresee the end results of their various actions concerning Fannie Mae, mark-to-market, the Housing Community Act forcing investment firms and banks to have to participate at quota levels in the sub-prime market, blocking regulation reforms on Fannie Mae.  This was not nefarious; this was simply politics.  (I think you would agree with me, even though you might not be able to actually admit it in print.)

I have thought about the OCC and the Jan 2004 decision to refute all 50 attorneys general.  Again, it was not nefarious, but as with the Democrats, these things have consequences. This was a case where the Bush Administration could have behaved differently and helped mitigate the crisis.  It was push-pull on State rights vs National rights: Just politics, as the Fannie Mae efforts were with the Democrats.

And investment firms&#039; use of the opaque debt asset instruments, and their slicing and repackaging and resell-resell-resell cycle, gaining 0.5% profit on each resell as the housing market speculation spun wildly upward...  not nefarious, just short-term and extraordinarily stupid.  Again, plenty of blame.

There&#039;s blame enough to go around, and we can all point fingers.  I prefer to look at the broader picture.  It&#039;s sickening to watch the entire set of Democrat leadership blame solely Bush and Wall Street.  It&#039;s sickening to watch Obama do the same and, of course, blame McCain solely.  What disgusting hypocrisy, at a level no Republican leaders are engaging in!  I hope you can agree with that as well.

The Democrat leadership is behaving the way the conservative talk show hosts are behaving, criticising only one side - other other side.  Talk show hosts aren&#039;t leaders;the Democrats in Congress are supposed to be.  It&#039;s a shameful week for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quick comment on Ozzie&#8217;s #16 and my #22,</p>
<p>Ozzie, I think we would agree that Democrats did not foresee the end results of their various actions concerning Fannie Mae, mark-to-market, the Housing Community Act forcing investment firms and banks to have to participate at quota levels in the sub-prime market, blocking regulation reforms on Fannie Mae.  This was not nefarious; this was simply politics.  (I think you would agree with me, even though you might not be able to actually admit it in print.)</p>
<p>I have thought about the OCC and the Jan 2004 decision to refute all 50 attorneys general.  Again, it was not nefarious, but as with the Democrats, these things have consequences. This was a case where the Bush Administration could have behaved differently and helped mitigate the crisis.  It was push-pull on State rights vs National rights: Just politics, as the Fannie Mae efforts were with the Democrats.</p>
<p>And investment firms&#8217; use of the opaque debt asset instruments, and their slicing and repackaging and resell-resell-resell cycle, gaining 0.5% profit on each resell as the housing market speculation spun wildly upward&#8230;  not nefarious, just short-term and extraordinarily stupid.  Again, plenty of blame.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s blame enough to go around, and we can all point fingers.  I prefer to look at the broader picture.  It&#8217;s sickening to watch the entire set of Democrat leadership blame solely Bush and Wall Street.  It&#8217;s sickening to watch Obama do the same and, of course, blame McCain solely.  What disgusting hypocrisy, at a level no Republican leaders are engaging in!  I hope you can agree with that as well.</p>
<p>The Democrat leadership is behaving the way the conservative talk show hosts are behaving, criticising only one side &#8211; other other side.  Talk show hosts aren&#8217;t leaders;the Democrats in Congress are supposed to be.  It&#8217;s a shameful week for them.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ozzie</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/09/24/doom-and-gloom/comment-page-2/#comment-30067</link>
		<dc:creator>Ozzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 03:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=3846#comment-30067</guid>
		<description>becoming one of our most ubiquitous political commentators and one of the most left-wing.- slate, via rock

Well, I can show you plenty of other sources that  &quot;Kevin Phillips is no lefty.&quot; 

What matters to be that he&#039;s been both prescient and correct.

He called this a long time ago. As did former Cold Warrior Chalmers Johnson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>becoming one of our most ubiquitous political commentators and one of the most left-wing.- slate, via rock</p>
<p>Well, I can show you plenty of other sources that  &#8220;Kevin Phillips is no lefty.&#8221; </p>
<p>What matters to be that he&#8217;s been both prescient and correct.</p>
<p>He called this a long time ago. As did former Cold Warrior Chalmers Johnson.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ozzie</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/09/24/doom-and-gloom/comment-page-2/#comment-30065</link>
		<dc:creator>Ozzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 02:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=3846#comment-30065</guid>
		<description>If your world is dominated by the EU or China, then probably yes- _Ymar

Once again, I said on a global scale, which means the entire world.

But now that you mention it, I believe that China is eventually going to dominate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your world is dominated by the EU or China, then probably yes- _Ymar</p>
<p>Once again, I said on a global scale, which means the entire world.</p>
<p>But now that you mention it, I believe that China is eventually going to dominate.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: rockdalian</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/09/24/doom-and-gloom/comment-page-2/#comment-30064</link>
		<dc:creator>rockdalian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 02:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=3846#comment-30064</guid>
		<description>Ozzie, 
This Kevin Phillips?
&lt;blockquote&gt;In 1969, an obscure Republican political strategist named Kevin Phillips published a nerdy, statistics-laden book titled The Emerging Republican Majority that offered a Machiavellian analysis of how the GOP could use the issue of race to win over working-class Democrats and ensure future political dominance. In the years since, almost every aspect of that description has been turned around. Phillips long ago left behind both obscurity and conservatism, &lt;strong&gt;becoming one of our most ubiquitous political commentators and one of the most left-wing.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
http://www.slate.com/id/2138947/
From 2006.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ozzie,<br />
This Kevin Phillips?</p>
<blockquote><p>In 1969, an obscure Republican political strategist named Kevin Phillips published a nerdy, statistics-laden book titled The Emerging Republican Majority that offered a Machiavellian analysis of how the GOP could use the issue of race to win over working-class Democrats and ensure future political dominance. In the years since, almost every aspect of that description has been turned around. Phillips long ago left behind both obscurity and conservatism, <strong>becoming one of our most ubiquitous political commentators and one of the most left-wing.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2138947/" rel="nofollow">http://www.slate.com/id/2138947/</a><br />
From 2006.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ozzie</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/09/24/doom-and-gloom/comment-page-1/#comment-30063</link>
		<dc:creator>Ozzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 02:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=3846#comment-30063</guid>
		<description>I think you left out Bernie Sanders.- BrianE

I was going by a global scale while answering suek, since Communism doesnt exist in the U.S. http://www.politicalcompass.org/ 

(Though, with the recent --  and pending --bailouts, it appears that socialism does)

I should have made it clear that the only candidates charted on this global measuring scale were presidential candidates, which is why I left out Bernie Sanders.

America is pretty right wing compared to other countries. I think now that the decline has accelerated, it will become more authortarian, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you left out Bernie Sanders.- BrianE</p>
<p>I was going by a global scale while answering suek, since Communism doesnt exist in the U.S. <a href="http://www.politicalcompass.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.politicalcompass.org/</a> </p>
<p>(Though, with the recent &#8212;  and pending &#8211;bailouts, it appears that socialism does)</p>
<p>I should have made it clear that the only candidates charted on this global measuring scale were presidential candidates, which is why I left out Bernie Sanders.</p>
<p>America is pretty right wing compared to other countries. I think now that the decline has accelerated, it will become more authortarian, too.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/09/24/doom-and-gloom/comment-page-1/#comment-30058</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 01:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=3846#comment-30058</guid>
		<description>&lt;B&gt;Obama is closer to the center than McCain?&lt;/b&gt;

If your world is dominated by the EU or China, then probably yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Obama is closer to the center than McCain?</b></p>
<p>If your world is dominated by the EU or China, then probably yes.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/09/24/doom-and-gloom/comment-page-1/#comment-30057</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 01:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=3846#comment-30057</guid>
		<description>&lt;B&gt;I never commented on the surge, Ymar.&lt;/b&gt;

If I recall, you were the one that portrayed Iraq as a failure or waste of time/resources. That is a comment on the surge, even if you didn&#039;t use anybody as a source that directly addressed that issue.

&lt;B&gt;Kevin Phillips isnt a leftist. &lt;/b&gt;

I haven&#039;t analyzed his work so I wouldn&#039;t say whether he is or isn&#039;t one.

&lt;B&gt;You honestly believe that Obama is a Communist?&lt;/b&gt;

That doesn&#039;t seem to matter much, given that regardless of what Obama is believed to be, what Obama will do is quite clear and objective.

&lt;B&gt;The more I learn about Palin, (and the more YouTubes crop up about her and her crazy preachers), the more I feel compelled to vote against her.&lt;/b&gt;

So you bought into the Democrat propaganda-astroturfing and irregular warfare cadres, did ya?

&lt;B&gt;You’re wasting your time, Y…except as it serves your purpose&lt;/b&gt;

I keep it short and pared down, compared to what I could do. I don&#039;t lose too much time on that score.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>I never commented on the surge, Ymar.</b></p>
<p>If I recall, you were the one that portrayed Iraq as a failure or waste of time/resources. That is a comment on the surge, even if you didn&#8217;t use anybody as a source that directly addressed that issue.</p>
<p><b>Kevin Phillips isnt a leftist. </b></p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t analyzed his work so I wouldn&#8217;t say whether he is or isn&#8217;t one.</p>
<p><b>You honestly believe that Obama is a Communist?</b></p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t seem to matter much, given that regardless of what Obama is believed to be, what Obama will do is quite clear and objective.</p>
<p><b>The more I learn about Palin, (and the more YouTubes crop up about her and her crazy preachers), the more I feel compelled to vote against her.</b></p>
<p>So you bought into the Democrat propaganda-astroturfing and irregular warfare cadres, did ya?</p>
<p><b>You’re wasting your time, Y…except as it serves your purpose</b></p>
<p>I keep it short and pared down, compared to what I could do. I don&#8217;t lose too much time on that score.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: BrianE</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/09/24/doom-and-gloom/comment-page-1/#comment-30056</link>
		<dc:creator>BrianE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 00:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=3846#comment-30056</guid>
		<description>Ozzie,
You&#039;re so funny. Obama is closer to the center than McCain? That would put the center somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean.

I think you left out Bernie Sanders. And Kucinich isn&#039;t just just on the left, he&#039;s just left of Pluto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ozzie,<br />
You&#8217;re so funny. Obama is closer to the center than McCain? That would put the center somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean.</p>
<p>I think you left out Bernie Sanders. And Kucinich isn&#8217;t just just on the left, he&#8217;s just left of Pluto.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: suek</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/09/24/doom-and-gloom/comment-page-1/#comment-30053</link>
		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=3846#comment-30053</guid>
		<description>&gt;&gt;You honestly believe that Obama is a Communist?&gt;&gt;

Yes.  I&#039;m not sure he identifies himself as a _C_ommunist, but I believe he is in fact somewhere between socialism and _c_ommunism.  Whichever, I don&#039;t want his philosophy as president of the USA.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_alinskys_rule.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;You honestly believe that Obama is a Communist?&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Yes.  I&#8217;m not sure he identifies himself as a _C_ommunist, but I believe he is in fact somewhere between socialism and _c_ommunism.  Whichever, I don&#8217;t want his philosophy as president of the USA.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_alinskys_rule.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_alinskys_rule.html</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

<!-- Performance optimized by W3 Total Cache. Learn more: http://www.w3-edge.com/wordpress-plugins/

Page Caching using disk: enhanced
Database Caching 2/14 queries in 0.079 seconds using disk: basic
Object Caching 403/404 objects using disk: basic

Served from: www.bookwormroom.com @ 2012-02-10 00:37:57 -->
