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		<title>By: Random Jottings</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/09/30/the-view-from-across-the-pond/comment-page-1/#comment-30537</link>
		<dc:creator>Random Jottings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 04:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Silly stuff, but I can&#039;t resist fisking......&lt;/strong&gt;

America Loses Its Dominant Economic Role, By SPIEGEL Staff (Thanks to Bookworm) The banking crisis is upending American dominance of the financial markets and world politics. The industrialized countries are sliding into recession, the era of turbo-cap...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Silly stuff, but I can&#8217;t resist fisking&#8230;&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>America Loses Its Dominant Economic Role, By SPIEGEL Staff (Thanks to Bookworm) The banking crisis is upending American dominance of the financial markets and world politics. The industrialized countries are sliding into recession, the era of turbo-cap&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: McLaren</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/09/30/the-view-from-across-the-pond/comment-page-1/#comment-30473</link>
		<dc:creator>McLaren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This website is German-based and tracks anti-American bias in German/Euro media:

http://medienkritik.typepad.com/blog/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This website is German-based and tracks anti-American bias in German/Euro media:</p>
<p><a href="http://medienkritik.typepad.com/blog/" rel="nofollow">http://medienkritik.typepad.com/blog/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Danny Lemieux</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/09/30/the-view-from-across-the-pond/comment-page-1/#comment-30472</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Lemieux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 12:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incidentally, the Spiegel article is a hoot. Their anti-American gloating gets in the way of their analysis and only supports my contention that EUros can only perceive Americans through caricature.

Time and time again, EUrope&#039;s economy proves the dictum that when America&#039;s economy sneezes, EUrope catches a cold. The (as applied) accounting standards for European banks are far worse than they are for U.S. banks and EUrope governing structure lacks the flexibility to deal with crises either quickly or wisely.

I would not be surprised if the U.S. weathers this current crisis in fine form (having been rescued from making bad decisions by informed and angry voters) only to see the European banks collapse. Here&#039;s a very good and incisive insight from across the pond: http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2008/10/we-get-what-we-deserve.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incidentally, the Spiegel article is a hoot. Their anti-American gloating gets in the way of their analysis and only supports my contention that EUros can only perceive Americans through caricature.</p>
<p>Time and time again, EUrope&#8217;s economy proves the dictum that when America&#8217;s economy sneezes, EUrope catches a cold. The (as applied) accounting standards for European banks are far worse than they are for U.S. banks and EUrope governing structure lacks the flexibility to deal with crises either quickly or wisely.</p>
<p>I would not be surprised if the U.S. weathers this current crisis in fine form (having been rescued from making bad decisions by informed and angry voters) only to see the European banks collapse. Here&#8217;s a very good and incisive insight from across the pond: <a href="http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2008/10/we-get-what-we-deserve.html" rel="nofollow">http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2008/10/we-get-what-we-deserve.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Danny Lemieux</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/09/30/the-view-from-across-the-pond/comment-page-1/#comment-30471</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Lemieux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 12:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with YM - with the exception of the EU province of the U.K., where literary arts still flourish, EUrope produces very little of note. Part of the reason is that their markets (delineated by language) are so small. However, there is another more important reason:

To me, one of the really pathetic aspects of French culture, when I visit, is that the still-&quot;popular&quot; artists (in literature and film) are for the most part people that made their names 30-40 years ago. Johnny Hallyday, Catherine Deneuve...really! I believe that, much as the National Endowment for the Arts does here, their socialized societies tend to produce large volumes of subsidized mediocrity that drown-out the good. The really good artists must go to foreign markets (read: U.S.A.) to succeed.

However, to Gringo&#039;s point...if you really, really want to p*** off Europeans, simply ignore them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with YM &#8211; with the exception of the EU province of the U.K., where literary arts still flourish, EUrope produces very little of note. Part of the reason is that their markets (delineated by language) are so small. However, there is another more important reason:</p>
<p>To me, one of the really pathetic aspects of French culture, when I visit, is that the still-&#8221;popular&#8221; artists (in literature and film) are for the most part people that made their names 30-40 years ago. Johnny Hallyday, Catherine Deneuve&#8230;really! I believe that, much as the National Endowment for the Arts does here, their socialized societies tend to produce large volumes of subsidized mediocrity that drown-out the good. The really good artists must go to foreign markets (read: U.S.A.) to succeed.</p>
<p>However, to Gringo&#8217;s point&#8230;if you really, really want to p*** off Europeans, simply ignore them.</p>
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		<title>By: Gorgasal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gorgasal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 08:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m German. Anti-Americanism runs rampant in our media, but Spiegel (especially its online version, and most particularly its execrable Marc Pitzke) outdoes the rest when it comes to frothing-at-the-mouth sheer lunacy.

And I really can&#039;t take the Nobel Prizes in Peace or Literature seriously. Unfortunately, many people around me do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m German. Anti-Americanism runs rampant in our media, but Spiegel (especially its online version, and most particularly its execrable Marc Pitzke) outdoes the rest when it comes to frothing-at-the-mouth sheer lunacy.</p>
<p>And I really can&#8217;t take the Nobel Prizes in Peace or Literature seriously. Unfortunately, many people around me do.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 03:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Europe doesn&#039;t have David Weber, John Ringo, and all the other military sci fi crowd.

They got no literature in my view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Europe doesn&#8217;t have David Weber, John Ringo, and all the other military sci fi crowd.</p>
<p>They got no literature in my view.</p>
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		<title>By: Gringo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gringo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 02:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The US wipes out the competition in the Nobel Prizes for the hard sciences and for economics. For soft choices such as the Peace Prize and Literature, there are definite choices made to put down the un-Euro part of the US. Such as the comment made by a Norwegian member of the committee that chose to award the Peace Prize to Jimmy Carter: it was done to put down Dubya and his approach to Saddam Hussein. 

I wouldn&#039;t spend a whole lot of time worrying about what the Euros say, at least no more than to post this opinion. 

What European literature after 1960 do we read in the US? Post Camus? European music after 1960, apart from the Stones and Beatles- themselves greatly US-influenced? (Not just blues and rock and roll. Many in the Brit bands had played skiffle music in the 1950s, which was basically American Folk music set to a beat.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US wipes out the competition in the Nobel Prizes for the hard sciences and for economics. For soft choices such as the Peace Prize and Literature, there are definite choices made to put down the un-Euro part of the US. Such as the comment made by a Norwegian member of the committee that chose to award the Peace Prize to Jimmy Carter: it was done to put down Dubya and his approach to Saddam Hussein. </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t spend a whole lot of time worrying about what the Euros say, at least no more than to post this opinion. </p>
<p>What European literature after 1960 do we read in the US? Post Camus? European music after 1960, apart from the Stones and Beatles- themselves greatly US-influenced? (Not just blues and rock and roll. Many in the Brit bands had played skiffle music in the 1950s, which was basically American Folk music set to a beat.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/09/30/the-view-from-across-the-pond/comment-page-1/#comment-30438</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 00:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Book says,

&gt;unmoored to common concepts of grammar, narratively challenging, and morally vacuous.

Reminds me of Mark Twain&#039;s takedown of James Fenimore Cooper in an essay titled &quot;Cooper&#039;s Prose Style&quot;.  He deconstructs a couple of paragraphs from &quot;The Last of the Mohicans&quot;, claims that Cooper has committed 114 of 115 possible literary transgressions, and corrects the prose.

It&#039;s brilliant and scathing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Book says,</p>
<p>&gt;unmoored to common concepts of grammar, narratively challenging, and morally vacuous.</p>
<p>Reminds me of Mark Twain&#8217;s takedown of James Fenimore Cooper in an essay titled &#8220;Cooper&#8217;s Prose Style&#8221;.  He deconstructs a couple of paragraphs from &#8220;The Last of the Mohicans&#8221;, claims that Cooper has committed 114 of 115 possible literary transgressions, and corrects the prose.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s brilliant and scathing!</p>
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		<title>By: expat</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/09/30/the-view-from-across-the-pond/comment-page-1/#comment-30427</link>
		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 00:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this the same Swedish Academy that gave a prize to Elfriede Jelinek? I bow to my masters&#039; superior judgement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this the same Swedish Academy that gave a prize to Elfriede Jelinek? I bow to my masters&#8217; superior judgement.</p>
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		<title>By: Oldflyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oldflyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ho hum!

I see the $$ is up dramatically against the Euro.  Banks are failing in England.  Our unemployment rate has risen to within perhaps 4 points of what Germany and France have been running for awhile.  Russia has had a tremendous sum of foreign investment leave the county since their great Georgian adventure.  Petro $$ in Russia are shrinking as the price of oil sinks.  Still, the Germans among other Europeans are nearly totally dependent on the &quot;Bear&quot; for their energy. Wouldn&#039;t that would give you a really warm and cozy feeling?  France isn&#039;t much in the news;  I guess that means they aren&#039;t burning cars at the every night.

I would just say to the Euros.  If you will take care of your problems we will take care of ours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ho hum!</p>
<p>I see the $$ is up dramatically against the Euro.  Banks are failing in England.  Our unemployment rate has risen to within perhaps 4 points of what Germany and France have been running for awhile.  Russia has had a tremendous sum of foreign investment leave the county since their great Georgian adventure.  Petro $$ in Russia are shrinking as the price of oil sinks.  Still, the Germans among other Europeans are nearly totally dependent on the &#8220;Bear&#8221; for their energy. Wouldn&#8217;t that would give you a really warm and cozy feeling?  France isn&#8217;t much in the news;  I guess that means they aren&#8217;t burning cars at the every night.</p>
<p>I would just say to the Euros.  If you will take care of your problems we will take care of ours.</p>
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