This is precisely what happened while McCain was being bipartisan on the bailout bill and Obama was out there damning Bush and all Republicans with the harshest of rhetoric.

McCain lost several battles, in a ROUT, in a gentlemanly fashion, for two weeks, at the very height of the campaign. He remains very ineffective in getting his message out. He may not have been elected Miss Congeniality of the Senate in years past, but he’s making a strong case for it this year.

Therefore, it can’t possibly be true. (And I for one sure hope it isn’t.)

The immigration authorities of most countries already thought of this, you know? It happens. A very good friend and wife who happen to be from Edinburgh were unable to make it home when she went into somewhat premature labor (or perhaps “labour”), and their daughter was born in Mt. Kisco, NY. There was never any question that she’s a Brit.

What the people have chosen is not relevant if it turns out they’ve chosen it under false pretences. That would pretty much invalidate the choice. As Bookworm says: “this issue is not a technicality, it’s a baseline requirement.”

Well, so it is, and if it’s been skirted around and glossed over and lied about, then that wasn’t a choice at all, was it?

If Obama, or anyone else, wanted this problem to go away, it would take about eight seconds: produce the information. I’ve had to produce a birth certificate on more than one occasion in my life, it wasn’t too much of a challenge. If Barry’s telling us the truth, it should be equally simple for him. What’s the problem?

When my kids were born in Germany, we had an Army form as proof of birth “to an American citizen born abroad”. Typical military form…about 11 inches long, and pages 3,4 and 5 of a document typed on an old typewriter with 6 copies…carbon copies. When we got back to the States, I had to submit them to the State Department, after which we received a diploma looking birth certificate stating that each was a citizen.

It sounds like they simplified the process.

My birth certificate is slightly different than if I had been born in the U.S., but my parents didn’t have to do anything special to have the U.S. acknowledge me as an American citizen. Under those circumstances, you simply are an American citizen.

Deana

Don’t forget that it is also going to be based off of Obama’s attempts to deceive the American people via manipulation and document forgery or omission.

That will impact Obama’s judgment. Without transparency, how will America’s political system function any more?

But, that’s not how it turned out, is it, Book. That’s cause the State Department and Carter was in on the fix.

Only military culture treats it as de jure and de facto like that. Most other people ignore it or pretend it doesn’t exist.

Only the Navy or the military, for example, treats a US carrier as sovereign American soil.

It’s a cultural difference, regardless of the legalities.

The Constitution is clear: you have to be a natural born citizen to be president. That’s not a technicality. That’s a baseline requirement.

If one ignores all the little squiggly laws and if Obama was born in Kenya, he is absolutely, completely, totally, not a natural born citizen.

And if the law requires his American parent to have been an adult citizen of the United States for a number of years to bestow on him citizenship, then he’s not a natural born citizen either.

In other words, assuming he was born in Kenya to a 19 year old, he’s not a natural born citizen under either the simple language of the Constitution or the technical twists and turns of the laws enacted to help Americans abroad bestow citizenship on their children.

As for McCain, I have always been under the impression that military bases, no matter where in the world they are, are considered American soil. In other words, a military child is actually born on American soil, not on the soil of the country in which the base happens to be located.