Famous black socialists *UPDATED*

It’s gotten so that anything that is not pro-Obama is racist.  The latest attack is that it’s racist to call his positions “socialist” (and this despite his affiliation with the socialist New Party).  In the spirit of this attack, I hereby present a photo gallery of famous, black, self-admitted socialists:

Karl Marx

Karl Marx

Friedrich Engels

Friedrich Engels

Adolf Hitler

Adolf Hitler

Benito Mussolini

Benito Mussolini

Che Guevara

Che Guevara

Chairman Mao

Chairman Mao

Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

Josef Stalin

Josef Stalin

Fidel Castro

Fidel Castro

Kim Jong Il

Kim Jong Il

Okay, I was just kidding.  Not one of the really famous socialists is black.  So, though I’ve said it before, I’ll still say it again:  The only color that matters when it comes to Obama is RED.

UPDATENeo-neocon picked up on the flip side of this absurd new racism charge.  She quotes verbatim from the Diuguid article making the charge that “socialism” is a racist term, and then adds what is obvious (I guess) only to those who actually like facts:

If Diuguid actually knew the meaning of the word “shame,” he might feel some himself—because three of the four civil rights leaders he mentioned were in fact Socialists or even Communists, and the fourth was intermittently sympathetic to the cause.

Please read the rest of neo’s post, since it explains that she’s not just playing around with racist name-calling when she makes that statement.

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10 Responses to “Famous black socialists *UPDATED*”

  1. on 21 Oct 2008 at 4:57 pm Charlie (Colorado)

    You misunderstand: it refers to their souls.

  2. on 21 Oct 2008 at 5:17 pm rockdalian

    Small quibble, but it is my belief, based on his spread the wealth statement, Obama may be more of a Marxist.

    ” First, Marx’s definitions of socialism and communism differed greatly from Lenin’s. Second, the relationship between socialism and communism specified by Marx and Engels differs fundamentally from the one elaborated by Lenin and other radical socialists who became communists.

    Third, the distinction between communist and socialist theory is critical because The Communist Manifesto was a powerful rebuttal to the socialist theory of that time, and socialist theory since then has been proven sorely inadequate.”
    http://www.wpunj.edu/~newpol/issue24/robeso24.htm

    Obama:

    “Its not that I want to punish your success, I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you..that they get a chance for success. I think that when you spread the wealth around, its good for everybody”.

    From each according to his ability, to each according to his need (or needs) is a slogan popularized by Karl Marx in his 1875 Critique of the Gotha Program.
    http://tinyurl.com/2qkdhe

  3. on 21 Oct 2008 at 5:20 pm rockdalian

    Your picture of Marx needs updating.

    http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/10/21/cartoonmarx.jpg

  4. on 21 Oct 2008 at 5:29 pm suek

    I know this is long…but it’s still worth consideration:

    On Jan. 10, 1963, Congressman Albert S. Herlong Jr. of Florida read a list of 45 Communist goals into the Congressional Record. The list was derived from researcher Cleon Skousen’s book “The Naked Communist.” These principles are well worth revisiting today in order to gain insights into the thinking and strategies of much of our so-called liberal elite.

    1. U.S. should accept coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

    2. U.S. should be willing to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

    These encapsulate the Kennan Doctrine, which advocated for the “containment” of communism. Establishment figures supporting the amoral containment policy at least implicitly worked with the communists in scaring the wits out of the American people concerning atomic war.

    President Ronald Reagan undid the doctrine when he took an aggressive stand against the Evil Empire by backing freedom fighters from around the world that were struggling against the left-wing communist jackboot. As a result, the Soviet Union and its satellites imploded, a considerable and unexpected setback to the international communist edifice.

    3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the U.S. would be a demonstration of “moral strength.”

    The nuclear freeze advocates supported a freeze on American nuclear development only. Rarely were Soviet nukes or those of other nations mentioned in their self-righteous tirades. The same advocates now call for reducing American military might, claiming that there is something immoral about America preserving its military pre-eminence in the world.

    4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

    Today, there are calls to end the embargo on the slave island of Cuba, there were complaints about the embargo against Iraq, and the U.S., not Saddam Hussein, was blamed for the suffering of the Iraqi people. Would they have advocated for free trade with Hitler and his National Socialist regime?

    5. Extend long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

    6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

    Such aid and trade over decades contributed greatly to the left-wing communist liquidation of over 100 million people worldwide, according to the well-documented “Black Book of Communism.”

    This aid and trade marks a shameful chapter in American history. Without the aid and trade, the left-wing international communist behemoth would have imploded on its own rot a lot sooner and umpteen millions would have been saved from poverty, misery, starvation and death.

    7. Grant recognition of Red China and admission of Red China to the U.N.

    Not only did President Jimmy Carter fulfill this goal but he also betrayed America’s allies in Nicaragua, El Salvador, Iran, Afghanistan, Angola and elsewhere.

    8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev’s promise in 1955 to settle the Germany question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

    9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the U.S. has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

    10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

    11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces.

    There are still American intellectuals, and elected members of Congress, who dream of an eventual one world government and who view the U.N., founded by communists such as Alger Hiss, the first secretary-general, as the instrument to bring this about.

    World government was also the dream of Adolf Hitler and J.V. Stalin. World government was the dream of Osama bin Laden and the 9/11 hijackers.

    12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

    13. Do away with loyalty oaths.

    14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

    While the idea of banning any political party runs contrary to notions of American freedom and liberty, notions that are the exact opposite of those held by the left-wing communists themselves, nevertheless these goals sought to undermine the constitutional obligation of Congress to investigate subversion. The weakening of our government’s ability to conduct such investigations led to the attack of 9/11.

    It is entirely proper and appropriate for our government to expect employees, paid by the American taxpayer, to take an oath of loyalty.

    15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the U.S.

    In his book “Reagan’s War,” Peter Schweizer demonstrates the astonishing degree to which communists and communist sympathizers have penetrated the Democratic Party. In his book, Schweizer writes about the presidential election of 1979.

    16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

    This strategy goes back to the founding of the American Civil Liberties Union by Fabian Socialists Roger Baldwin and John Dewey and Communists William Z. Foster and Elizabeth Gurley Flynn among others.

    17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

    18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

    19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations that are under Communist attack.

    The success of these goals, from a communist perspective, is obvious. Is there any doubt this is so?

    20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

    21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.

    22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings,” substituting shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.

    23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. ” Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”

    24.Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.

    25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.

    26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural and healthy.”

    This is the Gramscian agenda of the “long march through the institutions” spelled out explicitly: gradual takeover of the “means of communication” and then using those vehicles to debauch the culture and weaken the will of the individual to resist.

    Today those few who still have the courage to advocate public morality are denounced and viciously attacked. Most Americans are entirely unwitting regarding the motives behind this agenda.

    27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a “religious crutch.”

    This has been largely accomplished through the communist infiltration of the National Council of Churches, Conservative and Reform Judaism, and the Catholic seminaries.

    28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state”

    Replacing belief in the creator with belief in the earthly man-controlled State.

    29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

    And replace our nation of “laws, not men” with royal decree emanating from appointed judges and executive orders. Replace elected officials with bureaucrats.

    30. Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”

    31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of “the big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

    Obliterating the American past, with its antecedents in principles of freedom, liberty and private ownership is a major goal of the communists then and now.

    32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture – education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

    Public ownership of the means of production, the core principle of totalitarianism.

    33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

    34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

    35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

    36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

    37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

    Turn America into a socialist police state.

    38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand or treat.

    The Soviets used to send “social misfits” and those deemed politically incorrect to massive mental institutions called gulags. The Red Chinese call them lao gai. Hitler called them concentration camps.

    39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose communist goals.

    Psychiatry remains a bulwark of the communist agenda of fostering self-criticism and docility.

    40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

    Done! The sovereign family is the single most powerful obstacle to authoritarian control.

    41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

    Outcome-based education, values clarification or whatever they’re calling it this year.

    42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special interest groups should rise up and make a “united force” to solve economic, political or social problems.

    This describes the dialectical fostering of group consciousness and conflict, which furthers the interests of authoritarianism.

    43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

    The results of this successful campaign are increasingly obvious in the world today.

    44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

    45. Repeal the Connally Reservation so the U.S. cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.

    This would mark a complete subversion of our Constitution and an end to representative sovereign government as we know it, which is the whole idea.

  5. on 21 Oct 2008 at 7:11 pm pst314

    “Small quibble, but it is my belief, based on his spread the wealth statement, Obama may be more of a Marxist.”

    But given Obama’s longtime extremely close relationships with black nationalists like Wright and Farrakhan, one could make a case that he’s some sort of fascist.

    Of course, fascism, communism, progressivism, socialism, syndicalism, and so on are all Marxist heresies, so I suppose you are right. :-)

  6. on 21 Oct 2008 at 7:24 pm Bookworm

    Marxist, Trotsky-ite, Fascist, etc. — they’re all subspecies of socialism. People who don’t make that distinction often try to characterize Nazism and Italian fascism as “conservative” movements. They weren’t. They were socialism.

  7. on 22 Oct 2008 at 11:25 am jlibson

    Suek!

    Thanks for giving me bad dreams!

    Holy cow, I didn’t know that it was that bad.

    Here is a link to the same material that you can share:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1561529/posts

  8. on 22 Oct 2008 at 11:27 am jlibson

    Book, I know that it wasn’t the point you forgot to mention an honorable socialist:

    George Orwell!!

    Road to Wigan Pier folks. Worth the read to get a view from “the other side” that is rational and well written.

  9. on 22 Oct 2008 at 2:30 pm suek

    I don’t “do” FreeRepublic…how did you happen across that - it’s from 2006! Although I notice it says it’s been posted many times - still, did you find it googling? or?

  10. on 22 Oct 2008 at 2:37 pm jlibson

    I just googled “Albert S. Herlong Jr. of Florida read a list of 45 Communist goals”.

    “Free Republic” some sort of pariah site? :)

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