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		<title>By: Bookworm Room &#187; It isn&#8217;t hard to predict a narcissist&#8217;s behavior</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/10/22/keeping-it-alive/comment-page-1/#comment-81942</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookworm Room &#187; It isn&#8217;t hard to predict a narcissist&#8217;s behavior</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] October 22, 2008, I wrote this: The MSM has been remarkably cavalier about Joe Biden’s bizarre statement regarding the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/10/22/keeping-it-alive/comment-page-1/#comment-32095</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Quoting the bible, or using Biblical imagery is just not something I’d expect from him. Not that it’s impossible, I grant, but unlikely, imo.&gt;&gt;

That would be a gaffe.

Biden would then have to say during his next stump speech:
&quot;Well, folks, I just gotta let you know when I said, &#039;Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.&#039;, and that was why I wanted them to be patriotic, you know, so via their taxes they could, um, enter paradise, well I thought I was quoting the Koran!  Camels and all that, you know.  God bless me, I never thought I was quoting the Bible, and I really want to apologize to everyone for it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Quoting the bible, or using Biblical imagery is just not something I’d expect from him. Not that it’s impossible, I grant, but unlikely, imo.&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>That would be a gaffe.</p>
<p>Biden would then have to say during his next stump speech:<br />
&#8220;Well, folks, I just gotta let you know when I said, &#8216;Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.&#8217;, and that was why I wanted them to be patriotic, you know, so via their taxes they could, um, enter paradise, well I thought I was quoting the Koran!  Camels and all that, you know.  God bless me, I never thought I was quoting the Bible, and I really want to apologize to everyone for it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/10/22/keeping-it-alive/comment-page-1/#comment-32085</link>
		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Biden is using Biblical imagery to speak prophetically.&gt;&gt;

I doubt it.  Biden is theoretically a Roman Catholic.  Of all the Christian faiths, RCs are less inclined to quote the bible than any others, I think.  Quoting the bible, or using Biblical imagery is just not something I&#039;d expect from him.  Not that it&#039;s impossible, I grant, but unlikely, imo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Biden is using Biblical imagery to speak prophetically.&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>I doubt it.  Biden is theoretically a Roman Catholic.  Of all the Christian faiths, RCs are less inclined to quote the bible than any others, I think.  Quoting the bible, or using Biblical imagery is just not something I&#8217;d expect from him.  Not that it&#8217;s impossible, I grant, but unlikely, imo.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/10/22/keeping-it-alive/comment-page-1/#comment-32082</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deana,
God yes it was hilarious, wasn&#039;t it?!?!  I didn&#039;t want to tell everyone it was a joke, cause you have to get about 1/4 of the way into Joe&#039;s &quot;explanation&quot; until you realize it&#039;s a joke.  I was laughing harder and harder the further I read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deana,<br />
God yes it was hilarious, wasn&#8217;t it?!?!  I didn&#8217;t want to tell everyone it was a joke, cause you have to get about 1/4 of the way into Joe&#8217;s &#8220;explanation&#8221; until you realize it&#8217;s a joke.  I was laughing harder and harder the further I read.</p>
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		<title>By: Deana</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/10/22/keeping-it-alive/comment-page-1/#comment-32063</link>
		<dc:creator>Deana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helen - 

You are giving Biden waaaaaay too much credit.  Really.

Mike D - I read Treacher and that is one of the funniest things I&#039;ve ever read.  He nailed Biden.  

Deana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helen &#8211; </p>
<p>You are giving Biden waaaaaay too much credit.  Really.</p>
<p>Mike D &#8211; I read Treacher and that is one of the funniest things I&#8217;ve ever read.  He nailed Biden.  </p>
<p>Deana</p>
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		<title>By: JackCoupal</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/10/22/keeping-it-alive/comment-page-1/#comment-32062</link>
		<dc:creator>JackCoupal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...&lt;i&gt;people will be shocked and disappointed by Obama’s response&lt;/i&gt;...&quot;

&quot;..disappointed?..&quot;

What frightens me is that it may mean that Obama plans to have no response to an attack. nada.

In the remote possibility that there will be a response, the response may well be a presidential invitation to the very attackers to sit down for serious negotiations over &quot;grievances&quot;.
 
That strategy would be strangely like Senator Kerry&#039;s naive portrayal of terrorist attacks as &quot;a nuisance&quot; for America, during the 2004 presidential campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;<i>people will be shocked and disappointed by Obama’s response</i>&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;..disappointed?..&#8221;</p>
<p>What frightens me is that it may mean that Obama plans to have no response to an attack. nada.</p>
<p>In the remote possibility that there will be a response, the response may well be a presidential invitation to the very attackers to sit down for serious negotiations over &#8220;grievances&#8221;.</p>
<p>That strategy would be strangely like Senator Kerry&#8217;s naive portrayal of terrorist attacks as &#8220;a nuisance&#8221; for America, during the 2004 presidential campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/10/22/keeping-it-alive/comment-page-1/#comment-32060</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a must read for me.  Jim Treacher has the lowdown: Joe Biden has clarified his remarks, to explain the gaffe:

http://jimtreacher.com/archives/001788.html

Highly recommended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a must read for me.  Jim Treacher has the lowdown: Joe Biden has clarified his remarks, to explain the gaffe:</p>
<p><a href="http://jimtreacher.com/archives/001788.html" rel="nofollow">http://jimtreacher.com/archives/001788.html</a></p>
<p>Highly recommended.</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/10/22/keeping-it-alive/comment-page-1/#comment-32054</link>
		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posted before:

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/biden-remarks-worse-than-just-a-gaffe

This is the second time he&#039;s said the same thing.  It wasn&#039;t a gaffe.  He meant to say what he said.

What that indicates, I don&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posted before:</p>
<p><a href="http://sweetness-light.com/archive/biden-remarks-worse-than-just-a-gaffe" rel="nofollow">http://sweetness-light.com/archive/biden-remarks-worse-than-just-a-gaffe</a></p>
<p>This is the second time he&#8217;s said the same thing.  It wasn&#8217;t a gaffe.  He meant to say what he said.</p>
<p>What that indicates, I don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiresias</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/10/22/keeping-it-alive/comment-page-1/#comment-32046</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiresias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe is being Joe.  He attended a briefing a few days ago, with, like all such briefings, the understanding that the information imparted ought not go beyond the room.  This is, of course, impossible for Biden, who is just bursting with the idea that he knows something the rest of the world doesn&#039;t.  He CANNOT shut up.  But in this case he also can&#039;t talk openly, and the cognitive dissonance this must be causing him probably rises to the level of physical pain.  Thus the circumlocution.  He absolutely MUST let us all know that he knows something - so he has to couch it in weirdness.

The comparison with Kennedy is apt, by the way: does anyone suppose that Kennedy actually passed his test?  Khrushchev walked away from the meeting thinking &quot;twerp,&quot; and thus the whole Cuban situation.  If Kennedy&#039;d been tough to begin with, there is ample evidence in the history books to indicate that it all might have been avoided.

I suspect you&#039;re absolutely right, Helen: Obama will walk away leaving everyone thinking &quot;twerp,&quot; and it will lead to something. 

But, &quot;Biden&quot; and &quot;bizarre&quot; go together like ham and eggs, and Joe&#039;s just letting you know how important he thinks he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe is being Joe.  He attended a briefing a few days ago, with, like all such briefings, the understanding that the information imparted ought not go beyond the room.  This is, of course, impossible for Biden, who is just bursting with the idea that he knows something the rest of the world doesn&#8217;t.  He CANNOT shut up.  But in this case he also can&#8217;t talk openly, and the cognitive dissonance this must be causing him probably rises to the level of physical pain.  Thus the circumlocution.  He absolutely MUST let us all know that he knows something &#8211; so he has to couch it in weirdness.</p>
<p>The comparison with Kennedy is apt, by the way: does anyone suppose that Kennedy actually passed his test?  Khrushchev walked away from the meeting thinking &#8220;twerp,&#8221; and thus the whole Cuban situation.  If Kennedy&#8217;d been tough to begin with, there is ample evidence in the history books to indicate that it all might have been avoided.</p>
<p>I suspect you&#8217;re absolutely right, Helen: Obama will walk away leaving everyone thinking &#8220;twerp,&#8221; and it will lead to something. </p>
<p>But, &#8220;Biden&#8221; and &#8220;bizarre&#8221; go together like ham and eggs, and Joe&#8217;s just letting you know how important he thinks he is.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/10/22/keeping-it-alive/comment-page-1/#comment-32043</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helen, #1:

&gt; Some have suggested that Obama might be the cause of this “situation.” Like the world hasn’t known problems until now.

That may be true, but no one here in Book&#039;s domain is saying that.
Some foreign entity will be the cause of the situation.

That foreign entity will be reacting directly to Barack Obama&#039;s perceived a) weakness or b) inexperience.

To claim that &lt;b&gt;Obama might then be the cause&lt;/b&gt; of the situation - merely because of how the triggerman is perceiving Obama - is ridiculous.  Because you can then go back a further step and state that McCain&#039;s bipartisanship or weak campaign style got Obama elected, therefore McCain is the cause of the situation.  Or McCain&#039;s momma is the cause, because she spanked him once when he was two and made him cry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helen, #1:</p>
<p>&gt; Some have suggested that Obama might be the cause of this “situation.” Like the world hasn’t known problems until now.</p>
<p>That may be true, but no one here in Book&#8217;s domain is saying that.<br />
Some foreign entity will be the cause of the situation.</p>
<p>That foreign entity will be reacting directly to Barack Obama&#8217;s perceived a) weakness or b) inexperience.</p>
<p>To claim that <b>Obama might then be the cause</b> of the situation &#8211; merely because of how the triggerman is perceiving Obama &#8211; is ridiculous.  Because you can then go back a further step and state that McCain&#8217;s bipartisanship or weak campaign style got Obama elected, therefore McCain is the cause of the situation.  Or McCain&#8217;s momma is the cause, because she spanked him once when he was two and made him cry.</p>
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