Virginia: Obama is up 20,000 votes with 89% in. It’s his first lead of the night.
North Carolina: McCain is up by 200 with 81% in. It’s his first lead of the night.
Indiana: McCain is up by only 4,000 with 88% in. Narrower and narrower.

Florida is 51%-49% for Obama with 62% in. It has been narrowing all night, but very very slowly.

Pennsylvania is totally dominated by Obama, it appears. 58-41% for Obama with 65% in. It’s been narrowing a small amount all night, but that gap is shocking. I suppose these results mean that that outrageous, sickening monster Murtha survived as well.

Ohio has been narrowing slowly but is still Obama 52-47% with 37% in.

I’m waiting on all of these but Pennsylvania. I suppose I should trust that the networks know their business, in comparing actual votes and exit polls precinct by key precinct the way they do. But I’m not throwing it in just yet. It looks dark, but of the above states only Pennsylvania is guaranteed lost.

Outliers might still occur among the vote! (Slim hope I know, but I am not throwing in the towel.)

Likely President-Elect Obama will bring change. I appear to be left with only the hope that it will be a change I can accept. What a slim hope.

It appears that Obama is likely to win this election. I truly would love to share in the excitement that so many Americans have – it feels awkward, actually, to not be able to participate with them.

But my fear about what an Obama win means for the long-term well-being of all Americans is something I can’t shake. I hope to heaven I am wrong but I have this feeling that we are about to set our selves on a course that will lead to a severe self-inflicted wound. We just don’t know where the wound will be.

Good night all! And get some rest. We all are going to need it, I think.

Deana

Are these examples of the type of “dissenters” that you’re afraid might have been “criminalized”? I’m just wondering what kind of dissent you think might just qualify as “giving aid and comfort” to our enemies. Does “Support Resistance in Iraq” qualify?

Zombie’s Hall of Shame

And this is only ONE of “zombies” photo galleries. Take a look at some of the “anti-war” rallies. When does “dissent” become the “enemy within”?

On the other hand, a soldier given an order which s/he feels is illegal is permitted to respond with a “Sir…will you please give me that order in writing…Sir.” Which can result in second thoughts on the part of the person giving the order…

No. I didn’t miss that part.

But you are saying that we are going to have brigades “permanently patroling U.S. streets” and that is not true. The article says that they MAY be used but they aren’t out armed and on the streets unless it is deemed “necessary,” which in my book is where the concern comes in.

I simply am requesting that you refrain from using scare terms and exaggerations. It tends to get in the way of reasonable discussion.

As for your examples of criminalizing dissent, you say that protesters have been charged as terrorists. You don’t provide an example and that’s fine, it’s not a criticism – we can have this discussion later since we are all watching the election.

As for millions of activists being placed on no-fly lists – if millions of people aren’t able to fly, why are our airports so crowded all the time? Wouldn’t there be a LOT more evidence that all of these people can’t fly?

I appreciate the information you provided me but I know that you have a habit of making fairly exaggerated claims and then providing cites that supposedly prove your claims but when I listen to or read them, I discover that they don’t exactly match what you say. I’m not denying what you are saying – I’m simply saying that I’m withholding judgment. I don’t have energy tonight to post AND monitor all the election stuff.

I’d be happy to discuss this later.

Deana

This is the tape I was talking about. The guy who taped it hid it so it would not be confiscated.

At first, it seems like no big deal. It’s actually pretty boring, in fact.

But by the time you get to the end, it’s hard to believe:

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/99433/incredible_documentary_footage_of_mass_arrest_in_st._paul/

Did you miss this part? From the Army Times article:

“After 1st BCT finishes its dwell-time mission, expectations are that another, as yet unnamed, active-duty brigade will take over and that the mission will be a permanent one.”

Today, a Colorado Newspaper reported that two additonal military units will be deployed within the U.S. in the next two years:

“Now the commander of Northern Command claims that at least two more military units will be stationed inside the county in the next two years, contributing to an estimated total of 4,700 specially trained service members.”

http://coloradoindependent.com/13321/elite-combat-brigade-for-homeland-security-missions-raises-ire-of-aclu

“And one other thing: I’ve noticed that you keep saying that dissent is criminalized. Would you provide some examples?” – Deanna

In Oct, 2001, John Dean reported that, due to the wording, one of the “unintended consequences” would be to equate dissidents with terrorists.

When the Patriot Act was renewed, formed Reagan Adminstration Official Paul Craig Roberts sounded an even louder alarm.

And sure enough, protesters have been charged as terrorists.

Moreover, the Maryland state police disclosed that 53 nonviolent anti-war and anti-death penalty activists were tracked under the state’s terrorism surveillance program, and that their names were added to the state’s and the National Security Agency’s database.

Millions of acvists have been put on no-fly lists and in 2002, Minnesota changed the legal definition of terrorism to include actions “intended to interfere with the conduct of government or the right of lawful assembly.”

Videotape from Saint Paul shows police surrounding people in a park and placing them all under arrest, in case they MIGHT protest.

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sarah p Says:
October 27, 2008 at 5:04 amOk, I want to clear my conscious a little. Hopefully you could make a blog post to help some fellow clinton supporters out.I work for a campaign and can’t wait for this week to be over.I was doing it for a job. I was not a fan of any candidate but over time grew to love HRC.The internal campaign idea is to twist, distort, humiliate and finally dispirit you.We pay people and organize people to go to all the online sites and “play the part of a clinton or mccain supporter who just switched our support for obama”We do this to stifle your motivation and to destroy your confidence.We did this the whole primary and it worked.Sprinkle in mass vote confusion and it becomes bewildering. Most people lose patience and just give up on their support of a candidate and decide to just block out tv, news, websites, etc.This surprisingly has had a huge suppressing movement and vote turnout issues.Next, we infiltrate all the blogs and all the youtube videos and overwhelm the voting, the comments, etc. All to continue this appearance of overwhelming world support.People makes posts to the effect that the world has “gone mad”

There is a huge staff of people working around the clock, watching every site, blogs, etc. We flood these sites. We have had a goal to overwhelm.

THe US military, if ordered to forcibly disarm the American population, will probably obey in a lack luster manner. If the US military is ordered to suppress peaceful American demonstrators, then they will probably “lose” those orders and say that they lack clear communications and wish to further “clarify” the orders they have been given. The US military, essentially, would make themselves undeployable for operations if given an order that they refuse to follow but they will never be open about their disobedience.

Soldiers can and often do disobey direct orders. It is just that they do so in very creative ways that don’t damage the chain of command. It is often never a question of, like you see on Hollywood, where the commander demands with the question “are you going to disobey a direct order”.

Obama will prefer to use lawyers, as they are more loyal idealogically and easier to use under the table as a sort of “social justice” campaign, than the US military.

People like, Oz, for example, has never actually seen what happens in military dictatorships so it is hard for people like them to judge reality from fiction in those types of scenarios. History has shown me plenty of things that I needed to see, however.

Once Obama’s healthcare system starts going full steam, we’ll be needing humanitarian help from the US military for the system will break down like in Third World nations.

Florida at 31% precincts reporting is still 53-47% in favor of Obama, but his lead keeps slowly shrinking.

No good news from any battleground state *yet*.