Comments on: Abortion, politics and Obama’s agenda

By: Danny Lemieux

Danny Lemieux — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:08:37 +0000

YM, excellent heads-up on Neo’s Jonestown post. The part on how they maintained discipline by forcing people to inform on one another should be required reading in every high school program in the country.

By: Ellie2

Ellie2 — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 02:05:50 +0000

In the DC gun lawsuit, it was a cop looking for a carry permit. In most of the school cases, it’s a parent. I seem to recall one Pledge case in SF was thrown out because the suit was brought by a non-custodial parent who the court said didn’t have standing.

In Roe it was a pregnant woman. I don’t really get the “standing” point in the Berg case, either. I would think every voter or every taxpayer would have standing. I guess that is what the SCOTUS will decide. They need to determined what the 10th Amendment means regarding standing.

“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

By: suek

suek — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 01:37:58 +0000

>>We need to start (or support if it already exists) a Conservative version of the ACLU>>

There are a couple of sites…FIRE is one – specific to education. There’s this one:
http://www.ij.org/
but they’ve been more focused on the Kelo situation and similar cases. I don’t know of any other law firms with similar involvement. You’re right, though.
What about the “standing” requirement? Watching the Obama Birth Certificate situation, lack of standing seems to be a major barrier. How does the ACLU get standing in cases like the removal of the cross in the San Diego suit, and the removal of the cross from Los Angeles’ city logo? Or the removal of the Ten Commandments from the Alabama court house? I guess I don’t understand how your average Joe Blow has standing to have something like those removed, but Berg doesn’t have standing to question the elgibility of a presidential candidate. It seems to me that the ACLU represents your Joe Blow citizen, and Berg is a citizen. Both are affected by the cases in question – so why standing in one and not the other?

By: suek

suek — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 01:28:19 +0000

Thanks, Ellie2. Who’da thunk!

By: Ellie2

Ellie2 — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 01:06:56 +0000

SueK,

It was the 8 followed by the paren. See chart here:

http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Smilies

By: Ellie2

Ellie2 — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:55:21 +0000

We need to start (or support if it already exists) a Conservative version of the ACLU. This organization needs to start lawsuits — many, many lawsuits — based on the enumerated powers of the Federal Goverment, which unlike the Right to Privacy, is actually written bright and clear in the Constitution. (10th Amendment and Article 1).

By: suek

suek — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:43:19 +0000

Heh. that smiley thing is supposed to be a numeral eight.
Do any other numbers produce variants on that little thing?

By: suek

suek — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:42:04 +0000

He can’t count on overriding the conservatives presently in the SC, and they’re unlikely to die within his 4 (or Heaven protect us – 8) years in office, so my guess is that he’ll try to pack the court. I don’t know when – if he waits until after 2010, he might lose the majority in one or both houses, so my guess is he’ll do it before then. You could be right of course, that he’ll wait until he has a second term so he has a free hand. I hope so – and I’ll hope he doesn’t _get_ that second term! It’s not just abortion – it’s the “Fairness Doctrine” as well. I have a feeling that with the present court, it would be struck down as violating the first amendment. If he just had two more solid Statists, though…!

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:33:28 +0000

Danny, Neo’s latest post about Jonestown is very wise.

By: 11B40

11B40 — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:07:16 +0000

Greetings:

I think his desire for a second (if not more) term will limit his behavior in his first term. Other than that, I don’t think we have a prayer what with the newly elected, and heavily Democratic, Congress.