Hillary’s in — probably

For reasons best known to herself, Hillary will probably say yes to State, even thought she’ll be the third, not the first, woman to fill that position, and even though no Secretary of State has ever used that post as a springboard to the White House.  Nutroots will be furious because of her support for the Iraq War.  Conservatives have already indicated a feeling that she’s the best of a the lot:  pragmatic and tough.  It will also be fun to watch those two prima donnas duke it out for control.

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  • Gringo

    Given a choice between Hillary and John F Kerryman, I would chose the Senator from New York in the proverbial New York minute.

  • Deana

    I second Gringo.

    Hillary makes me nuts. However, I think that when push comes to shove in the international arena, she understands that you can’t always talk your way to a solution.

    But yes, it will be fascinating watching the fireworks between Foggy Bottom and the White House.

    Perhaps we should all stock up on the Tums.


  • Charles Martel

    I have a friend in the Secret Service who says Hillary’s code name will be “Cloverfield.”

    He says to imagine the State Department and the White House as Manhattan.

    Then he says to imagine Hillary as a 300-foot-high sea monster who decides one night to take a walk up Broadway.

    Could be interesting.

  • Oldflyer

    It is hard for me to believe that I am actually relieved to see a Clinton back in the national and international spotlights. But, given the alternatives. . .

    In the best of all worlds Obama would have picked a Statesman/woman whose only agenda was to serve the country honorably and the Clintons would have slipped into political obscurity. But that was not in the cards apparently.

    It should be entertaining at least.

  • Danny Lemieux

    A brilliant move by Rahm Emanuel.

    First, he removes Hillary from a powerful opposition role in the Senate. Second, Obama makes peace with the PUMAs by throwing them a bone(r). Third, I can’t think of a better place to completely discredit Hillary on the world stage than as Secr. of State. Whenever Obama’s foreign policy fails (and it will), guess who will take the blame? When she eventually gets replaced at Obama /Emanuel’s behest, her political power will be forever dissipated.

    Let’s see how Ymarsaker plays this one.

  • Tiresias

    Why Hillary takes it is obvious: she’s a nothing from nowhere in the senate.

    She’s only been there since 2000, and will remain for the foreseeable future the “junior senator from New York.” The only way to get Schumer out of office will be to drive a stake through his heart, and in New York that isn’t going to happen any time soon.

    So, as the junior senator, of what does she get to be in charge? Nothing. As a fairly twerpy and relatively new member of the senate altogether, what committees does she get to chair? None.

    You might say she has one area of astonishing celebrity and expertise that should leapfrog her ahead of other people: health care. But she already asked the fat drunk from Massachusetts (who considers health care HIS God-mandated mission on Earth) if she could have a major role, and he said “nope: no major roles available for anyone except me,” so that ended that.

    So she has nothing in the senate. She is nothing in the senate – so, quite logically, the hell with the senate.

    What does she know about making the rest of the world love us? Not much: forget “love,” she can’t even make Bill feel guilty enough to keep him even vaguely honest. Even if she were truly as smart as we’ve been hearing for far too long that she is; those parts of the world that are autromatically inclined to look down on women and not take them seriously will still look down on and not take her seriously, either.

    Women do not do well dealing with South America, Asia, the Middle East – or Putin. None of these people are culturally disposed to take women nearly as seriously as we do – and they don’t. Even women of enormous intelligence and accomplishment like Condi Rice get treated like Beanie Babies by the Arabs, Chinese, etc.

    This is a table to which Hillary brings nothing.

    And I wouldn’t take as a given, either. The “vetting” process isn’t yet over, and Bill’s been groping his way around the world, and in and out of too many deals about which he’s 100% unwilling to say a word to assume it’s automatic. There could be some conflicts of interest here to make even Obama’s teeth itch.

  • Deana

    Tiresias –

    “Groping” – an excellent choice of words for Bill.


  • Mike Devx

    Obama will appoint Bill Clinton as Ambassador to Cuba, because the guy has a certain appreciation for a fine cigar.

  • Ymarsakar

    Let’s see how Ymarsaker plays this one.

    I need to know whether Hillary has accepted this role or not before making my analysis conclusions. Some of what you said certainly seems plausible but more light will be shed by Hillary’s intentions. If she thinks there’s something for her in the position, then finding it out and seeing how it connects with Obama will make the entire picture clear.

  • Ymarsakar

    Btw, allowing the media to influence your view of whether Hillary has accepted this part or not, either way, is probably not a wise thing to do. Probably? Almost certainly.

  • Ymarsakar

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.

    When you see this on Fox, you must understand what this means. It doesn’t mean Fox and Friends. It doesn’t mean fox News objectivity. It means the AP, complete with their terrorist supporting editors, journalists, and what not. Nothing they say, imply, or hint at can be trusted. In fact, you should take the information you get from them, lock them in a partition in your mind, and then quarantine all access to it.