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	<description>Conservatives deal with facts and reach conclusions; liberals have conclusions and sell them as facts.</description>
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		<title>By: Rhymes With Right</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/12/14/selfish-is-as-selfish-does/comment-page-1/#comment-40487</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhymes With Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Watcher&#039;s Council Results...&lt;/strong&gt;

Here are the results of the last two votes by the Watcher&#039;s Council! December 26, 2008 Winning Council Submissions First place with 2 2/3 points! - The Razor - The Symbol of Oppression Second place with 1 2/3 points -......</description>
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<p>Here are the results of the last two votes by the Watcher&#8217;s Council! December 26, 2008 Winning Council Submissions First place with 2 2/3 points! &#8211; The Razor &#8211; The Symbol of Oppression Second place with 1 2/3 points -&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/12/14/selfish-is-as-selfish-does/comment-page-1/#comment-40154</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have been honored to escort you through the throng by stepping on the gas pedal for the car, Book. You deserve it. They don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have been honored to escort you through the throng by stepping on the gas pedal for the car, Book. You deserve it. They don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookworm</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/12/14/selfish-is-as-selfish-does/comment-page-1/#comment-40144</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re #37:  I have a very personal reason for disliking Critical Mass (aside from the fact that it&#039;s morphed from a frolic into an often aggressive political movement).  When I was pregnant with my first child, I still lived in SF.  The hospital was on the other side of town and I knew that, if I went into labor on the wrong Friday afternoon, I wouldn&#039;t be able to get from my house to the hospital.  I lived in fear during the last two months of my pregnancy that I&#039;d go into labor on Critical Mass day.  Paranoid and neurotic?  Yes.  But a real fear that, fortunately, proved groundless when I had a Wednesday baby!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #37:  I have a very personal reason for disliking Critical Mass (aside from the fact that it&#8217;s morphed from a frolic into an often aggressive political movement).  When I was pregnant with my first child, I still lived in SF.  The hospital was on the other side of town and I knew that, if I went into labor on the wrong Friday afternoon, I wouldn&#8217;t be able to get from my house to the hospital.  I lived in fear during the last two months of my pregnancy that I&#8217;d go into labor on Critical Mass day.  Paranoid and neurotic?  Yes.  But a real fear that, fortunately, proved groundless when I had a Wednesday baby!</p>
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		<title>By: Soccer Dad</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/12/14/selfish-is-as-selfish-does/comment-page-1/#comment-40136</link>
		<dc:creator>Soccer Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Council speak 12/22/08...&lt;/strong&gt;

The Council has spoken. This week&#039;s winning entry was Bookworm Room&#039;s Selfish is as selfish does as she gives voice to every parents concern and she provides some observations to support her conclusions. The runner up this week was Mere Rhetoric&#039;s O...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Council speak 12/22/08&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The Council has spoken. This week&#8217;s winning entry was Bookworm Room&#8217;s Selfish is as selfish does as she gives voice to every parents concern and she provides some observations to support her conclusions. The runner up this week was Mere Rhetoric&#8217;s O&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/12/14/selfish-is-as-selfish-does/comment-page-1/#comment-40131</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 14:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, I&#039;ve seen motorcyclists engage in *some* of the behaviors that bicyclists engage in.  Because they can.  At a traffic jam, they go onto the shoulder and bypass the cars, or they weave their way through.  In other words, they engage in &quot;special behavior&quot; because they&#039;re special.

I agree about the &quot;slow down&quot; part.  If the speed limit is 40 and the car in front of you is doing 25, do you run them off the road?  No, you try to pass them responsibly, and you should do the same for bicyclists.

I agree with Y (#39) about Critical Mass, or at least what I heard of them a few years back.  They were about flouting the road laws - at least back then they were - and were engaging in highly provocative acts of rebellion against those road laws, solely for their own benefit.  Talk about &quot;special&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, I&#8217;ve seen motorcyclists engage in *some* of the behaviors that bicyclists engage in.  Because they can.  At a traffic jam, they go onto the shoulder and bypass the cars, or they weave their way through.  In other words, they engage in &#8220;special behavior&#8221; because they&#8217;re special.</p>
<p>I agree about the &#8220;slow down&#8221; part.  If the speed limit is 40 and the car in front of you is doing 25, do you run them off the road?  No, you try to pass them responsibly, and you should do the same for bicyclists.</p>
<p>I agree with Y (#39) about Critical Mass, or at least what I heard of them a few years back.  They were about flouting the road laws &#8211; at least back then they were &#8211; and were engaging in highly provocative acts of rebellion against those road laws, solely for their own benefit.  Talk about &#8220;special&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/12/14/selfish-is-as-selfish-does/comment-page-1/#comment-40128</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 04:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If bicyclists want to change the rules for driving, so that cars can pass them in a safer manner, they have had many many chances to do so in San Francisco.

Critical Mass, however, is not behind compromise of that sort, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If bicyclists want to change the rules for driving, so that cars can pass them in a safer manner, they have had many many chances to do so in San Francisco.</p>
<p>Critical Mass, however, is not behind compromise of that sort, however.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/12/14/selfish-is-as-selfish-does/comment-page-1/#comment-40127</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 04:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;I got talking with a few of the other riders. We all agreed we felt really scared of cars on a daily basis and that riding in a group felt liberating– because it was so safe!&lt;/b&gt;

Thanks for proving my point. The idea that cause you are now in a &quot;pack&quot; of bicycles that a car can&#039;t drive over you and your friends, is pretty &quot;fantastic&quot; one may say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>I got talking with a few of the other riders. We all agreed we felt really scared of cars on a daily basis and that riding in a group felt liberating– because it was so safe!</b></p>
<p>Thanks for proving my point. The idea that cause you are now in a &#8220;pack&#8221; of bicycles that a car can&#8217;t drive over you and your friends, is pretty &#8220;fantastic&#8221; one may say.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott in SF</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott in SF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 03:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  I said slow down!
Well, as we use to say, excuse me for living.  
Entitlement my derriere. 
I didn&#039;t use to own a car, I did everything on bicycle or skateboard.
I went on a group bicycle ride about 15 years ago. I got talking with a few of the other riders.  We all agreed we felt really scared of cars on a daily basis and that riding in a group felt liberating-- because it was so safe!
We started regular meetings.  After a few months I invited a radical friend of mine who was involved in organizing bicycle messengers.  We decided that we should have a party on wheels to draw attention to bicycle safety.  
Critical Mass was born and the rest is, as they still say, history.

I was a skateboarder before I really started biking everywhere.  Skateboards are not part of traffic, they are in and out of it--we assume we can&#039;t be seen.  Skateboards are really fast in two ways that bicycles and cars are not--they can turn on a dime, and they can accelerate from 0 to 15 in one second (That&#039;s faster than a formula one race car.) As a skateboarder there was never any reason to pay attention to traffic laws, they simply made no sense.  Skateboarding is a crime.

Bicycles are a different case.  First of all, for you law lovers out there, bicycles are allowed to take the full lane if riding two abreast.  Why?  Because it is really dangerous passing a bicycle on a narrow winding road, like the one Bookworm was driving too fast on.  Unfortunately, when most drivers see a bicycle they just start passing with out considering if it is safe for the bicycle.  That road Bookworm is talking about is used by bicyclists all the time, including Lance Armstrong.  They do often ride very fast and it is terribly dangerous to have cars trying to pass them, sometimes multiple times (because bicycles are faster on the straights, cars on the turns).  
As for running stop signs, it&#039;s a problem for cars too.  In San Francisco, where every intersection is a stop sign, most motorist are running at least a little bit.  For a bicycle the stop signs are just horrible.  Like you are really going to pop out of your clip and put your foot down every block?  
And think about this, bicyclists are higher than most cars so they can see better.
I&#039;m not into special entitlements.  I&#039;m just saying, we have an imperfect compromise that wasn&#039;t designed well for anyone.  Unless you are going to fix it, quit whining and slow down!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  I said slow down!<br />
Well, as we use to say, excuse me for living.<br />
Entitlement my derriere.<br />
I didn&#8217;t use to own a car, I did everything on bicycle or skateboard.<br />
I went on a group bicycle ride about 15 years ago. I got talking with a few of the other riders.  We all agreed we felt really scared of cars on a daily basis and that riding in a group felt liberating&#8211; because it was so safe!<br />
We started regular meetings.  After a few months I invited a radical friend of mine who was involved in organizing bicycle messengers.  We decided that we should have a party on wheels to draw attention to bicycle safety.<br />
Critical Mass was born and the rest is, as they still say, history.</p>
<p>I was a skateboarder before I really started biking everywhere.  Skateboards are not part of traffic, they are in and out of it&#8211;we assume we can&#8217;t be seen.  Skateboards are really fast in two ways that bicycles and cars are not&#8211;they can turn on a dime, and they can accelerate from 0 to 15 in one second (That&#8217;s faster than a formula one race car.) As a skateboarder there was never any reason to pay attention to traffic laws, they simply made no sense.  Skateboarding is a crime.</p>
<p>Bicycles are a different case.  First of all, for you law lovers out there, bicycles are allowed to take the full lane if riding two abreast.  Why?  Because it is really dangerous passing a bicycle on a narrow winding road, like the one Bookworm was driving too fast on.  Unfortunately, when most drivers see a bicycle they just start passing with out considering if it is safe for the bicycle.  That road Bookworm is talking about is used by bicyclists all the time, including Lance Armstrong.  They do often ride very fast and it is terribly dangerous to have cars trying to pass them, sometimes multiple times (because bicycles are faster on the straights, cars on the turns).<br />
As for running stop signs, it&#8217;s a problem for cars too.  In San Francisco, where every intersection is a stop sign, most motorist are running at least a little bit.  For a bicycle the stop signs are just horrible.  Like you are really going to pop out of your clip and put your foot down every block?<br />
And think about this, bicyclists are higher than most cars so they can see better.<br />
I&#8217;m not into special entitlements.  I&#8217;m just saying, we have an imperfect compromise that wasn&#8217;t designed well for anyone.  Unless you are going to fix it, quit whining and slow down!</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/12/14/selfish-is-as-selfish-does/comment-page-1/#comment-40099</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw, the reason why bicyclists act more irrationally when there are a lot of them together than when they are alone is principally due to the &quot;mob&quot; behavior. This is a sociological condition which occurs when human beings start congregating together and Brown Motion starts being placed into effect. Look at the killings done by the mob in the Walmart incident, for example.

A mob does not function as an individual, thus the mob has no &quot;self-survival&#039; instincts. Or at least, it has a different priority on such things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw, the reason why bicyclists act more irrationally when there are a lot of them together than when they are alone is principally due to the &#8220;mob&#8221; behavior. This is a sociological condition which occurs when human beings start congregating together and Brown Motion starts being placed into effect. Look at the killings done by the mob in the Walmart incident, for example.</p>
<p>A mob does not function as an individual, thus the mob has no &#8220;self-survival&#8217; instincts. Or at least, it has a different priority on such things.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I am on foot or on a bike, I assume that the people in cars can, will, and probably do want to kill me.

I have a choice, I can either feel complacent in the protection of the law and assume the law will protect me by limiting the actions of the vehicle operators or I can take the much safer bet and change my personal behavior so that car drivers don&#039;t get an opportunity to hurt me, period.

This is the difference between what is known as &quot;vigilance&quot; and what is known as vice corrupted &quot;entitlement&quot;.

You are not entitled to life. It is a right only given to you because of the strength of arms of others. And if people become weak enough, then you will die if you also lack the strength as well.

People who are paranoid have this fear of people out to get them. Society looks down on such people and does not respect them. And yet society looks upon the Critical Mass bicyclists as some sort of evolution on human potential.

Neither are as bad as they are stereotyped. The bicyclists are not suicidal when challenging cars, they just don&#039;t understand the reality of death. The paranoids fear others, but it need not control their actions or make them unreasonable.

A person that does not recognize and accept the fact that when they are on foot or on a bike, that they can be easily killed by a car, is living in what is known as a fantasy land reinforced by delusions and insane psychological disorders. This is a reality that society has blinded many people to, given the wealth and security modern day America provides. But that is only a thin veneer.

When people lose their self-survival mechanisms and common sense, bad things will happen. When people, paranoid or otherwise, allow their fears to guide their actions, like Nixon or paranoid delusional freaks, then they become animals rather than sentient human beings with a self-aware consciousness. You have to find the middle road between sense and insensibility, between reality and fantasy, and between virtue and vice. Course, virtue itself is one of moderation or to be specific: to act correctly in the correct situations. We call that &quot;moderate&quot; but in reality, it is not moderate it is only an &quot;average&quot;: an average of extremes in either direction, when those extremes fit the situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I am on foot or on a bike, I assume that the people in cars can, will, and probably do want to kill me.</p>
<p>I have a choice, I can either feel complacent in the protection of the law and assume the law will protect me by limiting the actions of the vehicle operators or I can take the much safer bet and change my personal behavior so that car drivers don&#8217;t get an opportunity to hurt me, period.</p>
<p>This is the difference between what is known as &#8220;vigilance&#8221; and what is known as vice corrupted &#8220;entitlement&#8221;.</p>
<p>You are not entitled to life. It is a right only given to you because of the strength of arms of others. And if people become weak enough, then you will die if you also lack the strength as well.</p>
<p>People who are paranoid have this fear of people out to get them. Society looks down on such people and does not respect them. And yet society looks upon the Critical Mass bicyclists as some sort of evolution on human potential.</p>
<p>Neither are as bad as they are stereotyped. The bicyclists are not suicidal when challenging cars, they just don&#8217;t understand the reality of death. The paranoids fear others, but it need not control their actions or make them unreasonable.</p>
<p>A person that does not recognize and accept the fact that when they are on foot or on a bike, that they can be easily killed by a car, is living in what is known as a fantasy land reinforced by delusions and insane psychological disorders. This is a reality that society has blinded many people to, given the wealth and security modern day America provides. But that is only a thin veneer.</p>
<p>When people lose their self-survival mechanisms and common sense, bad things will happen. When people, paranoid or otherwise, allow their fears to guide their actions, like Nixon or paranoid delusional freaks, then they become animals rather than sentient human beings with a self-aware consciousness. You have to find the middle road between sense and insensibility, between reality and fantasy, and between virtue and vice. Course, virtue itself is one of moderation or to be specific: to act correctly in the correct situations. We call that &#8220;moderate&#8221; but in reality, it is not moderate it is only an &#8220;average&#8221;: an average of extremes in either direction, when those extremes fit the situation.</p>
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