Big Hollywood

Sadly, Hollywood isn’t only a mirror of culture but it’s also a cultural leader. During WWII, it took the lead in promoting American values and urging American victory. In the past decades, and with increasing energy in the current decade, Hollywood has taken the lead in hostility to American values and, in the war between us and radical Islam, in painting us as the bad guy.

Andrew Breitbart is trying to strike a blow at the Hollywood mindset with a new website called Big Hollywood. It would be a wonderful thing if Breitbart could make conservatism a viable option, rather than an embarrassing secret, in the propaganda capital of the world.

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  • cottus

    Is? If it’s not there now, it is rapidly heading into the ‘was’ column IMHO. Already computer gaming is a larger industry dollarwise. Like the MSM, Hollywood is giving way to a huge range of competition. I am a big Opera fan, and movies are just a more technologically advanced, more creatively diverse form of Opera. Just as Opera today appeals to an incredibly enthusiastic but small niche of fans, the motion picture as we now know it will be confined to a few big movie theatres in a few big cities. They may be able to pop out the odd big budget musical or adventure epic, but they will be few and far between. When more bandwidth makes downloading content, not just movies, easy, and big screens more common, who will bother to go to the movies?

    Remember a large part of the posturing and political prominence of the ‘stars’ is nothing more than press agentry by those stars to boost their visibility, hence their marketability.

    Take heart in Video Games, Bookie. It is so chock full of blowing up bad guys! Nazis and Aliens predominate. Even in Grand Theft Auto the police are all corrupt and the protagonist is merely trying to make it as best he can in an evil world.

  • Ymarsakar

    Rome Total War has more pro-American concepts than Hollywood, people.

  • Danny Lemieux

    We can’t lose sight of the fact that Hollywood’s biggest markets today are overseas. They just cater to their customers, most-of whom lap-up anti-Americanism.

  • Ymarsakar

    We can’t lose sight of the fact that Hollywood’s biggest markets today are overseas.

    Don’t worry, Muslims will take that problem out for us soon enough. Look at Sweden for an example. They’ll be too worried about their domestic “youth” rapists to get out and buy up American Hollywood crap.

  • Ymarsakar

    They would benefit more from buying up some TFT DVDs, but of course we all know that violence is only used by bad people, not by civilized people. That would be disproportionate, Danny. That would be getting down to the level of your enemies.

    It is far better to be a victim and “survivor” of an attack in Sweden, or at least that is what the Left will tell you.

    I talked about Diane Feinstein and people like her who think in such parochial, provincial, and short sighted manners. They will often tell me that it is not worth it to risk getting killed over a wallet. Just give the thug your money and whatever he wants. It is not worth your life.

    Well, if my wallet isn’t worth my life, then why the hell would the thug knowingly risk killing me to get it? Oh, because the wallet to the thug is worth my life if not more? But, let’s not go there. Let’s just see it from the victim’s side and not consider anything.

    That is how these retard Leftists think whenever Hamas or Iran comes up.

    In the end, the thug should realize that it is not worth his life to try to threaten me but nobody tells him that. Just like nobody tells the pirates in Somalia that, certainly not the Un and Europe.

  • Tiresias

    I always wonder about this kind of stuff. I don’t actually think Hollywood’s much of a “mirror” or “leader” of much of anything these days. Who gets their opinions from movies? Admittedly, I don’t go to a lot of movies – though I am about to start flogging myself through the academy dvd collection in advance of the awards – but mostly what I see as big hitters these days tend to be comic books.

    Over the last couple of years there’s been a spate of so-called message movies, and the message was in general fairly anti-American and anti-Bush – but they all bombed. Hollywood remains in business to make money, and that’s the message it really understands and cares about. Bombs aren’t popular and they aren’t good for business, and ultimately that matters. The mindset that you mention has pretty much turned out to be a failure, to judge by the box-office – and the year-end spate of releases. I mean, c’mon; you have Tom Cruise trying to kill Hitler; Mickey Rourke (a conservative, incidentally) turning in the performance of a lifetime; and Clint Eastwood (conservative) back inthe running for yet another splendid award season. “Frost/Nixon” is a fairy-tale, which everybody except Opie knows, and it’s not doing well.

    “Stars” are individuals, many of them not very bright, but as individuals they’re allowed to have opinions. Their opinions run the same gamut as anyone else’s opinions: from dopey to reasoned; but other than their immediate families – who have to listen to them – does anyone really care? I don’t think any of these people are opinion-makers any more – if they ever were. Or maybe I’m just really resistant to it.

    I think talking about “the” culture in Hollywood is a bit of an imprecision, too – there are two. One is the people to whom you refer, certainly; but the other, probably more important one, is the people who find, put up, or front the money. You don’t hear a lot from them, but they expect a return on said money. If there’s a “formula” that doesn’t do that, that formula gets in trouble pretty quick.

    I think we’ve seen that. I don’t expect a lot of patriotic movies in the near future – the day of the war hero movie (except for Claus Von Stauffenberg) may be over, but I equally don’t think you’ll see a lot of stuff sympathetic to Hamas coming out soon, either.

    I could be wrong.

  • Danny Lemieux

    Let’s not get too gloomy, YM. There have been conservative movies that have done very well…Mel Gibson’s “We were soldiers” and “The Patriot”, for example. If there is anything that we’ve learned about recent movies, it is that conservatism sells, Leftardism doesn’t.

    Once Obamessiah gets through wrecking the country, I am sure there will be an even more noticeable demand for a conservative, patriotic view of America, although it may be as a bittersweet memory of the way things were. Oh well, the people voted him in, now we have to live with it.

  • Ymarsakar

    Who gets their opinions from movies?

    More than 25% of Americans. That’s about 75 million Americans at the least.

    I mean, c’mon; you have Tom Cruise trying to kill Hitler

    And they know Bush is Hitler. Your point?

    The mindset that you mention has pretty much turned out to be a failure, to judge by the box-office – and the year-end spate of releases.

    The New York Times continues to be an economic drain but that didn’t prevent them from killing off American sources and wiretapping programs with their “leaks”, now did it.

    Decreasing and dying isn’t the same as dead.

    I think we’ve seen that. I don’t expect a lot of patriotic movies in the near future – the day of the war hero movie (except for Claus Von Stauffenberg) may be over, but I equally don’t think you’ll see a lot of stuff sympathetic to Hamas coming out soon, either.

    So long as Hollywood continues to pump out movies highlighting “multiculturalism” being a good thing in America, they don’t need to conduct pro-Hamas propaganda films. We will become Hamas after enough people vote in socialism and “free” healthcare on the basis that they think it will do good for the nation.

    If there is anything that we’ve learned about recent movies, it is that conservatism sells, Leftardism doesn’t.

    As my point mentioned to Tiresias, whether a movie sells or not is not that important to me. What is important is public opinion and public myths. When more than 50% of those who voted for Obama thought the Republicans controlled Congress in 2008, that matters a whole heck of a lot more than how much conservative films sold or didn’t sell.

    I am sure there will be an even more noticeable demand for a conservative, patriotic view of America, although it may be as a bittersweet memory of the way things were.

    There are conservative actors and other peeps in Hollywood that resent being oppressed by PC think, but they currently aren’t organized into a counter-propaganda mesh. Their influence is slight.

    If American Carol had been out a few months after Moore’s propaganda film, then Moore would have been blunted at least somewhat. Today, Moore’s films already did the damage and American Carol came years too late. That is the problem. And it is a problem that is totally independent of how many conservative films sell or do not sell.

  • Mike Devx

    I agree with Ymar (#8). The media propaganda is nuanced but overwhelming.
    They’ve become quite skilled.

    I wonder if enough people are finding their way to alternative sources of information, enough to blunt the effect of the insidious and wholly pervasive mainstream media propaganda.

    I am skeptical, based on many acquaintances and relatives. They are exposed to ten seconds of conservatism surrounded by ten MINUTES of liberalism. It’s a powerful imbalance. They don’t know what they don’t know, and they don’t know that they don’t know it. Every once in a while something shocks them out of the programmed path… but they are rather quickly again taken by the hand and led back into it. The media is skilled at blunting the effect of the occasional blunder that exposes the agenda; or the occasional news that breaks out of the programmed agenda.

    Almost everyone here – or in fact perhaps EVERY ONE – in Book’s domain has already formed all the needed mental callouses to totally resist the programming. But the vast majority out there are still led by it.

  • Ymarsakar

    I don’t think they are particularly skilled in so far as they simply have the benefit of saturation. Dan Rather wasn’t particularly skilled. No propagandist that starts believing in his own lies is a conscientious operator anymore. Yet because there are hundreds and thousands of Dan Rathers in the MSM all saying the same thing, they get away with it. They convince people, not by skill, but simply by having a chorus that repeats the same thing over and over and over again.

    Just like with Sarah Palin, they start with a rumor and then “repeat” it from some prestigious institute so that the man on the street can say “the rumor must be true if something respectable as the New York Times printed it”.

  • Ymarsakar

    I’ve recently seen American Carol and I was intrigued by how many people they got to play as themselves. And the fact that the movie seemed like an experiment on conservative actors as well. I don’t belittle it or provide it disrespect, since I think it is a good work, but the exisgencies of Hollywood’s power still exists.