Nooooo!! Israel is buckling again

Hamas’ tried and true tactic worked again — it put children in the line of fire and Israel, rather than moving forward to protect her own children, is caving:

Israel has shown the first signs of bowing to the international outcry over its 11-day onslaught of Gaza after some 40 Palestinians sheltering in a United Nations school were killed.

Many children were among the dead in what Gordon Brown called the ‘darkest moment yet’ in the Gaza crisis.

The horrific attack prompted renewed attempts to broker a ceasefire with Britain and France backing a new initiative by Egypt to bring about an immediate halt in hostilities.

Last night came the first sign that Israel was listening to the growing international anger over its offensive as prime minister Ehud Olmert agreed to set up a “humanitarian corridor” to allow in aid to the devastated Palestinian territory.

Under the plan, Israel would suspend attacks in specified areas of Gaza to allow the people to get supplies of food, medicine and fuel. The goal was to ‘prevent a humanitarian crisis in the Gaza Strip’.

Israel has clearly lost the stomach to survive.

I remember back in 1982, when Israel invaded Lebanon, an Israeli soldier said (rightly) that sometimes you have to cut out healthy flesh to remove a cancer, but it’s still better than leaving the cancer there and letting the patient die.  Israel is dying and, if we’re all correct that this is a proxy war with Iran, we’re going down too.  I’m just sickened.

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  1. Ymarsakar says

    I’ve provided this analysis before, but you should be sickened Book. Especially since there is good odds at Olmert only invaded Gaza, like he did with Lebanon, in order to shore up domestic votes in order to beat off the public’s demand for military options being pressed by Netanyahu.

    Olmert does not have the spine to fight a war, period.

  2. Danny Lemieux says

    Perhaps it is time for Israel to take a page from the Russian campaign against Chechnya. When it was over, the world really didn’t care much and moved on.

  3. Mike Devx says

    I also knew that for Olmert and Livni, this was a smallish political conflict, in which they would pretend to be tough, and to look tough, for a smallish period of time. This is because they are small people.

    I said they were Tweedledum and Tweedledee. I said that all you needed was a few more of their political allies to join in the fun, and you would have a 24-7 showing of the Keystone Kops on your favorite cable news media channel.

    It is disgusting. It is sickening. But it should not be surprising. Why would ANYONE ever expect anything else out of Olmert and Livni!?!?! How dare we hope, and even expect, for the weasel to become the wolf? Why would we hope such a thing from Olmert and Livni?

    Politic wars WORK when your populace is just floating along through life, not paying attention, just wanting selfishly to never have to protect and defend all of those treasurable things around them that, together, make up civilization. They want all the benefits with none of the effort.

    I am speaking of America as well as Israel. There isn’t much difference. Anyone expecting anything different of Obama compared to Olmert and Livni is in for a horrifying disappointment. In fact Obama *might* even be profoundly worse; we at least have a solid Olmert and Livni record to rely on.

    I never thought any long-lasting good would come of this latest exercise in Israeli futility. It almost makes me think all the people are right, to blame Israel, because at this point, Israel is just playing GAMES. And indeed, civilians are dying during these G**-damned GAMES. If you’re not going to be serious about conflict and war, then why become involved in all the deaths?

    You jokesters, Olmert and Livni. I CURSE YOU. By your fecklessness and cavalier approach to reality, you set the cause of civilization back. Stop pretending to represent civilization, you tricksters, you foul slime. You represent children at a tea table, sipping and commenting snidely on what you see about you. You are not adults, and you harm civilization. I knew it, and yet I am still sickened.

  4. 11B40 says

    Greetings:

    Granted it seems that way and, based on past behavior, the danger of recurrence is real. (As Dr. Pill loves to say the best predicator of future behavior is past behavior.) However, sometimes, in large scale military assaults, you kind of run out of initial targets, as in the air campaign, and it takes some time to identify and target second and third tier targets. Here’s a thought that may help reduce your concern.

    Back in my Army days, my favorite platoon sergeant told me the following:

    There’s a statue of an infantryman with his back pack and bayoneted weapon in the infantry training center at Fort Dix, NJ. The name of the statue is “The Ultimate Weapon.” In this business, you don’t have nothin’ till some 20 year old with a long rifle tells you you have it.

  5. Ymarsakar says

    However, sometimes, in large scale military assaults, you kind of run out of initial targets, as in the air campaign, and it takes some time to identify and target second and third tier targets. Here’s a thought that may help reduce your concern.

    Olmert did one thing which proved he had no honor to me. He released Samir Kantar, 11B40.

    Olmert visited the Regev and Goldwasser families this morning after the exchange took place.
    “With all of Israel, I embrace and hug the families of Regev and Goldwasser in mourning,” said Olmert

    “My throat is dry, my eyes are tearing, and my heart goes out to the families that struggled without a sign of life, and didn’t lose hope until the very last moment,” Olmert said. “This is a day of removal of doubt. Certainly with regards to the fate of Udi and Eldad, may their memories be blessed, but also regarding the moral and ethical power of Israel.”

    “By virtue of this power we decided to return the boys, even with the heavy price of releasing a despicable murderer,” the prime minister said. “Nobody else will understand what every Israeli understands well: the worry over the fate of every one of our soldiers is the glue which binds us as a society, and it this which allows us to survive in an area which is surrounded by enemies and terror organizations.”

    “The joys of a nation are indicative of its value-system,” Olmert added. “Woe is the nation that celebrates at this hour the release of an animal that crushed the skull of an infant.”

    “My heart, on this day is with the Goldwasser and Regev families,” the statement concluded.

    Would you, 11B, do something like authorize the release of AQ cells caught torturing and killing American soldiers, in return for the bodies of two or 3 mutilated American soldiers?

    Kunter in a letter to his family wrote ‘If I were to spend another 20 years in prison, I will not write an apology letter for the Nasser (Nahariya terror operation), because the struggle continues.”

    Once it became apparent that Kunter was among five Hizbullah terrorists as well as an unspecified number of Palestinians, blood began to boil in Israel. The exchange was opposed by the chiefs of Israel’s intelligence community.

    In a report titled “Hizbullah’s Triumph: The Long-Term Implications of Prisoner Exchanges,” authors Justus Reid Weiner and Diane Morrison argued that the exchange of key Hizbullah and Palestinian terrorists for the bodies of two Israel soldiers would encourage the abduction of Israelis.

    “By exchanging prisoners with the proxy organizations as if they were law-abiding states, Israel can be seen as upgrading the status of the organizations’ unlawful combatants from terrorists and war criminals,” the report said.

    That is Olmert. And it remains him regardless of any military considerations on the ground, positive or negative. That is him and he ain’t changing.

    Any leader of a nation can suffer setbacks because of military considerations. We know this. But this is Olmert we are talking about. We should not forget that.

    I think Americans have seen by now that trading live terrorists for dead bodies, in Iraq and in Afghanistan, is not going to do anything to accomplish the mission. So why hasn’t Olmert? Is he just a traitor that would have been hanged like a common criminal back in Benedict Arnold’s day, and he is just enjoying the decadence of today’s standards, or is it something else.

  6. Charles Martel says

    Is he just a traitor that would have been hanged like a common criminal back in Benedict Arnold’s day, and he is just enjoying the decadence of today’s standards, or is it something else.

    Ymarsakar, I think it’s the decadence thing. Before he was elected pope, Josef Ratzinger (now Benedict XVI) spoke about “the dictatorship of relativism,” the current state of the West where our supposed best and brightest despise the idea that Truth exists, is knowable or could ever be capitalized.

    Omert is such a man. Like many Jews I know, he’s attached sentimentally to the idea of “Jewishness” and Israel, and those things that set both apart from other peoples and nations. Such men deal in appearances: Obama before the Prussian war statue in Berlin; Clinton’s pitiful cruise missle attack on empty factories; Jesse Jackson’s on-cue eye bulges when he’s shaking down terrified white corporationists.

    Unlike you, he does not think in terms of how an image of compassion that may play well with liberal sentimentality is perceived entirely differently by savages like Hamas. Realpolitik is a near impossibility for such folk.

    He might take a cue from the ancient Chinese. On occasion foreigners would kidnap the Chinese emperor, reasoning that the Chinese would pay any price to get him back.

    In such cases the reply from Beijing was simple: “We named a new emperor the day you kidnaped the old one. Do with your prisoner what you’d like.”

  7. Ymarsakar says

    In such cases the reply from Beijing was simple: “We named a new emperor the day you kidnaped the old one. Do with your prisoner what you’d like.”

    They were probably wanting to launch a coup against that emperor anyways and the foreigners just did them a favor ; )

    Like many Jews I know, he’s attached sentimentally to the idea of “Jewishness” and Israel, and those things that set both apart from other peoples and nations.

    That probably applies to more than half the Jews in America that vote Democrat, too. The rest would be the ones that think Israel is a mistake.

  8. Ymarsakar says

    America could also have so easily fallen into the Jewish mentality. America is special and powerful and have produced much goods. It would have been all too easy to do a fortress America.

    Link

    In fact, the Klu Klux Klan utilized some burgeoning American sentiments , similar to what the Jews feel , for their power base.

    Wide open and unguarded stand our gates,
    Named of the four winds, North, South, East and West;
    Portals that lead to an enchanted land
    Of cities, forests, fields of living gold,
    Vast prairies, lordly summits touched with snow,
    Majestic rivers sweeping proudly past
    The Arab’s date-palm and the Norseman’s pine–
    A realm wherein are fruits of every zone,
    Airs of all climes, for lo! throughout the year
    The red rose blossoms somewhere–a rich land,
    A later Eden planted in the wilds,
    With not an inch of earth within its bound
    But if a slave’s foot press it sets him free.
    Here, it is written, Toil shall have its wage,
    And Honor honor, and the humblest man
    Stand level with the highest in the law.
    Of such a land have men in dungeons dreamed,
    And with the vision brightening in their eyes
    Gone smiling to the fagot and the sword.

    Wide open and unguarded stand our gates,
    And through them presses a wild motley throng–
    Men from the Volga and the Tartar steppes,
    Featureless figures of the Hoang-Ho,
    Malayan, Scythian, Teuton, Kelt, and Slav,
    Flying the Old World’s poverty and scorn;
    These bringing with them unknown gods and rites,
    Those, tiger passions, here to stretch their claws.
    In street and alley what strange tongues are loud,
    Accents of menace alien to our air,
    Voices that once the Tower of Babel knew!
    O Liberty, white Goddess! Is it well
    To leave the gates unguarded? On thy breast
    Fold Sorrow’s children, soothe

    In the end, America did not choose this perpetually defensive crouch mentality. America chose to test its greatness and see if other people would willingly abide by American standards rather than the standards they grew up with. The experiment was a success. And in Germany and Japan, more than a success.

    Examples like Abraham Lincoln and George Washington and Teddy Roosevelt forced us to hold ourselves to higher standards than simple parochialism and provincialism, no matter how rich our “province” was or how great our providence from God became.

    hose things that set both apart from other peoples and nations

    This is the same as identity politics that powers the Black Panthers. The Jewish culture, however, is efficient and creative enough to actually produce something worthwhile from this clannishness. However, it does have its limits.

  9. 11B40 says

    Greetings, Ymarsakar:

    Quoting: “Would you, 11B, do something like authorize the release of AQ cells caught torturing and killing American soldiers, in return for the bodies of two or 3 mutilated American soldiers?”

    Here’s a little something to reduce your concern:

    Once again, the POW calculus:

    1) You don’t ever want to fight anyone twice;

    2) Some POWs may have useful information;

    3) Capture, relocation and detention of POWs requires the
    use of scarce resources.

    I’ll do the math.

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