Civil disobedience, San Francisco style

Civil disobedience, San Francisco style:  The police are in on it too.  No surprise, of course.  Many of these are the same police who voluntarily, or under orders, turn a blind eye to the public nudity, sexual activity, and urination that accompanies, not only fetish festivals such as Up Your Alley or the Folsom Street Fair, but ostensibly “family-friendly” activities such as the 96 year old Bay to Breakers Run (which I posted about here, here and here).

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  • Tiresias

    The most interesting comment possible to this post is exactly what’s happened: it’s been sitting here for two days, nobody has anything to say!

    Including me, though I note that fact as interesting. What is there left to say about San Francisco?

    Other than that none of us would live there on a bet, I mean.

  • Ymarsakar

    We may be able to replace Taiwan with San Fran if we give it to the Chinese in trade. Or we can trade it for Japan’s Okinawa. That would improve foreign relations by muchos grandes. The left would be all for this, so des neh?

  • spiff580

    Perpetual adolescents.

  • suek

    So…what _do_ people get arrested for in San Fran???

  • suek

    Chicago’s got to be a great town to live in as well. Not so much nudity – but then, it’s a tad colder thereabouts…

  • Charles Martel

    People get arrested for murder in San Francisco, but the PC district attorney never asks for capital punishment, so local killers pretty much receive free lifetime accommodations.

    You can be arrested if you attempt to have sex with an underage girl, especially if you are a white man. If you are a woman who wants to do the same, authorities look then other way because it’s cool for young girls to discover their lesbian tendencies. Hetero women can screw underage boys all they want, as long as they are reasonably discreet, because it’s empowering.

    If you are a gay man who likes underage flesh, you are also exempt from arrest and prosecution.

    The cops will arrest for armed robbery if they happen to be onsite at the time.

    There are virtually no arrests for burglary, assault or theft unless an officer is a.) on duty at the beginning of his shift, b.) onsite, c.) armed, d.) motivated, and e.) the perp is a small woman.

    Cops used to arrest bums (“the homeless”) for pissing and defecating on the street, but our resident legal geniuses apparently have discovered a constitutional right to public elimination.

    All of that said, it is still a gloriously beautiful city—the setting, the climate, the light are unique to the U.S. Folks like Book and me simply refuse to let the adolescents (good description, spiff) have complete control over it. Here and there are pockets of adults (conservatives) who know they have every bit as much of a right to enjoy the beauty of a playground as the clueless romping tots they are forced to keep an eye on.

  • suek

    I agree with you that it’s a physically very beautiful place. It broke my heart when I heard that the US had turned over the Presidio to the city. It was even then – 30 years ago?? – a small haven of rationality in an otherwise irrational location. What has happened to it? Somehow I suspect it’s no longer maintained the way it was.

    That’s another thing about the reduction of the military. I can’t say whether it’s a good thing or a bad thing, but the old military had a large number of individuals that worked in jobs that had nothing to do with defense, really. The support of the troops meant some widely divergent jobs. No contractors, just soldiers doing maintenance. When the military budget got tight, those had to go. The old buildings, the maintenance crews, the crews that did the landscaping…all had to go. Contractors were hired instead. Old buildings got run down and were demolished. Military personnel no longer lived on base, but moved into civilian housing. Of course, they had to increase housing allowances in certain areas (like SF, if there are still any military there) because the cost of housing was beyond reasonable on military pay…

    It used to be simpler.

  • suek

    Heh. SF can’t have _that_ many murders. If nothing else is really actionable, what are they paying police for? Atmosphere?

  • Charles Martel


    The Presidio came under the authority of a quasi-public/private organization that is linked to the U.S. Park Service. Under it, the old base has actually weathered fairly well. Here’s what has happened since you last saw it:

    —The old Letterman Hospital was razed and replaced by an office complex developed by George Lucas. The 5-story buildings were designed to echo old Presido architecture, with tile roofs, cream-colored walls and large windows. They are decidedly better than the 1960s-style building they replaced.

    —The old Crissy Airfield was removed and the land it was on restored to what it was around 1900: dune grass and lagoons. It has become a premier place for dog walking, birdwatching, biking, strolling, kite flying, etc. One more lung for the city. The former airfield had long ago ceased being operational.

    —The Presidio’s wonderful urban forest is still there, almost totally intact. The only dark cloud is that most of the trees are reaching the end of their life expectancies and the discussion has shifted to how they should be replaced and with what.

    Radical environmentalists want the Presidio restored to sand dunes, with all eucalyptus and pines torn out. Less radical tree huggers want the eucalyptus felled because they’re not “native.” Even though San Franciscans in general have a Looney Tunes concept of the world, a majority of them do not want the Presidio “restored” to its former wasteland status.

    —The magnificent parade ground remains the focal point of the old base. The most current threat to it is the proposal by a local millionaire to build a large ultramodern white-exterior museum at one end of the parade ground to house an extensive art collection he’s willing to donate to the public (can you say “tax write-off?”). The building itself isn’t all that bad, but takes no note of its historical context and would be a grandiose “look at me” statement for a space that depends entirely on every building fitting in and adding to–not dominating–the built perimeter.

    I don’t think the rich guy’s proposal is going to prevail, so score one victory for the preservationists.

    —A few years ago, the Presidio trustees beat back a proposal to turn over old Army enlisted housing to street people, reasoning correctly that the housing would have quickly degenerated into slums within just a few months. For now, the base’s wonderful old houses, some of the best domestic architecture in U.S. Army history, are rented to responsible civilians, some military personnel and non-profit organizations.

  • suek

    >>A few years ago, the Presidio trustees beat back a proposal to turn over old Army enlisted housing to street people, reasoning correctly that the housing would have quickly degenerated into slums within just a few months.>>


    Ft.Ord has deteriorated terribly. Apparently the military offered the old barracks thee to the city of Monterey for housing for the homeless, and the city found them less than satisfactory unless the military upgraded them significantly, which the military opted not to do. They’ve been boarded up and left to rot, as has been much of the housing on the post.
    I never could find the area we lived in…got turned around and couldn’t find any landmarks I recognized – they’ve probably been torn down. Not a real surprise – it was some 40 years ago, and Ord is BIG. I was there just a few years ago doing driving duty for my son’s wife while she recovered from foot surgery and he was in Iraq. They thought she’d just bounce into surgery and out fully recoverred before he left. Hah. They were at the Presidio of Monterey – where my husband was all those long years ago. Monterey has sure changed. It wasn’t nearly so touristy in those years – the military was a stronger influence. But then, Ord was also fully functioning and still readying troops for Vietnam. The housing on the Presidio today (where my son and his wife were living) is being maintained by contractors. Bureaucracy to get repairs done is even worse than with the military – probably because there’s also a profit aspect to it.

  • Charles Martel


    One of the nastiest blows to Ft. Ord was the creation of California State University at Monterey there about 10 years ago.

    The school is a pathetic mix of Marxist, pomo, queer studies, feminist, enviro fanatic “teachers” and the sheep students they lead to slaughter. The courses are thinly disguised propaganda aimed at producing bushels of fresh victims by talking the kids into sacrificing their individuality in the name of their skin color and current ethnic grievance(s).

    Not surprisingly, the vast majority of the school’s graduates want to go into “public service,” i.e. spend the rest of their lives being supported by taxpayers while they diss and subvert the same.

    It’s the kind of place Helen would thrive in, either as an indoctrinator or indoctrinatee.

    Monterey got hit by the reduction of military presence after the end of the Cold War and the spectacular success of the Monterey Bay Aquarium. I don’t think it could have successfully resisted its Boboization no matter how hard it tried.