Comments on: About Obama and the screaming military masses in Iraq http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/04/14/about-obama-and-the-screaming-military-masses-in-iraq/ Conservatives deal with facts and reach conclusions; liberals have conclusions and sell them as facts. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:19:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jose http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/04/14/about-obama-and-the-screaming-military-masses-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-47406 Jose Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:22:17 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=6088#comment-47406 I don't find anything unusual about enthusiastic Obama supporters securing front row seats. I'm sure they are a minority, but no doubt Obama resonates with them as he does with other young people. I don’t find anything unusual about enthusiastic Obama supporters securing front row seats. I’m sure they are a minority, but no doubt Obama resonates with them as he does with other young people.

]]> By: suek http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/04/14/about-obama-and-the-screaming-military-masses-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-47402 suek Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:33:44 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=6088#comment-47402 I've mentioned on another blog that I think major trouble is coming and the role of the military will be critical. I got smacked down a bit "Don't look to the military to pull your irons out of the fire - you (the civilian citizens) elected him. You made your choice". And there _is_ a problem - if you have a military leader who is willing to step in and take an action that results in the removal of the civilian leader from office, it's highly possible that the same leader might install himself as leader - even if "temporarily". We all know how long "temporarily" can extend. But I absolutely agree that the establishment of a civilian "security Corp" is extremely scary...there is no doubt in my mind that he will require an oath of loyalty to _him_ - not to the Constitution as the military does - and therein you have the seed planted for a dictatorship. I agree that he cannot "trust" the military - but it's not the defense of the country that is in question. So...what _will_ be the role of the military - both active and inactive? There is a group who call themselves "The Oathkeepers" http://www.oath-keepers.blogspot.com/ made up of military and police officers. I don't know how many they are, or what percentage they make up, but if it's significant it will definitely be a factor. Who will make up Obama's security force? what training will they have? will they be the gang members from the inner cities? That's who Hitler used - the Brown shirts - they were criminals already. If Obama uses the community organizers of his past, there won't be much of a fight, but if he uses the inner city gangs and the union organizers, it might be a different story. He's already got the Unions where he wants them - and vice versa - will they use force to keep the Dems in power? I think they will. They might get rid of Obama if he's ineffective, but they'll work to keep the dems in power. I’ve mentioned on another blog that I think major trouble is coming and the role of the military will be critical. I got smacked down a bit “Don’t look to the military to pull your irons out of the fire – you (the civilian citizens) elected him. You made your choice”. And there _is_ a problem – if you have a military leader who is willing to step in and take an action that results in the removal of the civilian leader from office, it’s highly possible that the same leader might install himself as leader – even if “temporarily”. We all know how long “temporarily” can extend. But I absolutely agree that the establishment of a civilian “security Corp” is extremely scary…there is no doubt in my mind that he will require an oath of loyalty to _him_ – not to the Constitution as the military does – and therein you have the seed planted for a dictatorship. I agree that he cannot “trust” the military – but it’s not the defense of the country that is in question.
So…what _will_ be the role of the military – both active and inactive? There is a group who call themselves “The Oathkeepers” http://www.oath-keepers.blogspot.com/ made up of military and police officers. I don’t know how many they are, or what percentage they make up, but if it’s significant it will definitely be a factor. Who will make up Obama’s security force? what training will they have? will they be the gang members from the inner cities? That’s who Hitler used – the Brown shirts – they were criminals already. If Obama uses the community organizers of his past, there won’t be much of a fight, but if he uses the inner city gangs and the union organizers, it might be a different story. He’s already got the Unions where he wants them – and vice versa – will they use force to keep the Dems in power? I think they will. They might get rid of Obama if he’s ineffective, but they’ll work to keep the dems in power.

]]> By: ckrcsmith http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/04/14/about-obama-and-the-screaming-military-masses-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-47399 ckrcsmith Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:16:00 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=6088#comment-47399 Bookworm said "It’s always bad news when the Commander in Chief is afraid of his own troops". Remember during the campaign when Obama said words to the effect that he needed a Civilian Security Corp, because he couldn't trust the US military to defend us anymore? What do you think the reaction would be in the USAF if Obama ordered them to attack Israeli jets that were attacking Iran's nuclear sites? As has been broadly hinted he might do. I don't know either, but it's a disturbing thought, isn't it? Bookworm said “It’s always bad news when the Commander in Chief is afraid of his own troops”.

Remember during the campaign when Obama said words to the effect that he needed a Civilian Security Corp, because he couldn’t trust the US military to defend us anymore?

What do you think the reaction would be in the USAF if Obama ordered them to attack Israeli jets that were attacking Iran’s nuclear sites? As has been broadly hinted he might do.

I don’t know either, but it’s a disturbing thought, isn’t it?

]]> By: Bookworm http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/04/14/about-obama-and-the-screaming-military-masses-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-47354 Bookworm Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:01:30 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=6088#comment-47354 My military source said -- and this was a surprise to me -- that this is the first time a President's team has demanded that weapons get checked. Who knew? My military source said — and this was a surprise to me — that this is the first time a President’s team has demanded that weapons get checked. Who knew?

]]> By: Danny Lemieux http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/04/14/about-obama-and-the-screaming-military-masses-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-47351 Danny Lemieux Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:58:46 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=6088#comment-47351 I can't fault them for checking weapons around the President. Also, I know that there are military people that support Obama. My brother-in-law is one. Then again, he's a pacificist who flies transport planes and has never had to use a weapon in anger. He just joined the military because he wanted to fly. Deep down, tho, he's a Hobbit and cheerfully admits it. I can’t fault them for checking weapons around the President. Also, I know that there are military people that support Obama. My brother-in-law is one. Then again, he’s a pacificist who flies transport planes and has never had to use a weapon in anger. He just joined the military because he wanted to fly. Deep down, tho, he’s a Hobbit and cheerfully admits it.

]]> By: Quisp http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/04/14/about-obama-and-the-screaming-military-masses-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-47345 Quisp Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:07:14 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=6088#comment-47345 Re: checking weapons, I'd imagine the Secret Service prefers that they're the only ones with weapons around the President, no matter who he is. Re: checking weapons, I’d imagine the Secret Service prefers that they’re the only ones with weapons around the President, no matter who he is.

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