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		<title>By: Rhymes With Right</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/04/18/honing-our-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-48873</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhymes With Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 21:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Belated Watcher&#039;s Council Results...&lt;/strong&gt;

I&#039;ve been remiss in posting these, due in large part to the process of returning to the house. So with sincerest apologies, here are some belated announcements of Watcher&#039;s Council results honoring some fine blog posts from around the internet......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Belated Watcher&#8217;s Council Results&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been remiss in posting these, due in large part to the process of returning to the house. So with sincerest apologies, here are some belated announcements of Watcher&#8217;s Council results honoring some fine blog posts from around the internet&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Soccer Dad</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/04/18/honing-our-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-48043</link>
		<dc:creator>Soccer Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Submitted 04/23/09...&lt;/strong&gt;

This week&#039;s Watcher&#039;s Council nominations are up! Witch Hunts (and you are the witch) - Right Truth writes about efforts to marginlize the political right. Dr. Andrew Agwunobi Strikes Again - The Provocateur follow the career of a doctor who leaves d...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Submitted 04/23/09&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>This week&#8217;s Watcher&#8217;s Council nominations are up! Witch Hunts (and you are the witch) &#8211; Right Truth writes about efforts to marginlize the political right. Dr. Andrew Agwunobi Strikes Again &#8211; The Provocateur follow the career of a doctor who leaves d&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/04/18/honing-our-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-47882</link>
		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 23:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wish I&#039;d had this link during that discussion.  Not that our troll was likely to check it out - he obviously didn&#039;t check the link that indicated that the polar ice caps are increasing in size, which means - if anything - that our oceans may be reduced in level, instead of the reverse....

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/04/obama-and-pandoras-box.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish I&#8217;d had this link during that discussion.  Not that our troll was likely to check it out &#8211; he obviously didn&#8217;t check the link that indicated that the polar ice caps are increasing in size, which means &#8211; if anything &#8211; that our oceans may be reduced in level, instead of the reverse&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/04/obama-and-pandoras-box.html" rel="nofollow">http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/04/obama-and-pandoras-box.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/04/18/honing-our-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-47853</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles #27:

Surely you jest, Charles!  It will be very easy for her.

&gt; responds to the creeping anti-Semitism
She will state that a two-state solution is appropriate, and stop there.

&gt; cozying up to the homophobic, racist Castro brothers
She will state that it&#039;s appropriate to be nice to Cuba for .  She will entirely ignore the fact that they are homophobic and racist, just as liberals always do with Iran, including their horrifying hatred of freedom for women.  She will NOT address any of that.

&gt; the sending of the anti-Semite George Mitchell to tell those pesky Israeli Joos
She will state that Israel is the reason there is no peace in the Middle East.  She will blame them for being unreasonable.  She will not address Palestinian terrorism against Jews, or she will claim they have no choice.

&gt; Christian Helen defend her hero’s defense of infanticide
She will state, in one form or another, that a blob of tissue is not a baby.  Even if the blob of tissue is breathing and alive when aborted, it should be placed on a closet shelf to expire.

She will ignore your criticism of her belief that we are a deeply racist country; instead she will ignore your sarcasm, pretend you&#039;re being serious about that, and congratulate you on finally realizing how deeply racist we are.

I was going to try to respond as if I were actually her, but it would have taken so much effort that I wasn&#039;t up to that task.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles #27:</p>
<p>Surely you jest, Charles!  It will be very easy for her.</p>
<p>&gt; responds to the creeping anti-Semitism<br />
She will state that a two-state solution is appropriate, and stop there.</p>
<p>&gt; cozying up to the homophobic, racist Castro brothers<br />
She will state that it&#8217;s appropriate to be nice to Cuba for .  She will entirely ignore the fact that they are homophobic and racist, just as liberals always do with Iran, including their horrifying hatred of freedom for women.  She will NOT address any of that.</p>
<p>&gt; the sending of the anti-Semite George Mitchell to tell those pesky Israeli Joos<br />
She will state that Israel is the reason there is no peace in the Middle East.  She will blame them for being unreasonable.  She will not address Palestinian terrorism against Jews, or she will claim they have no choice.</p>
<p>&gt; Christian Helen defend her hero’s defense of infanticide<br />
She will state, in one form or another, that a blob of tissue is not a baby.  Even if the blob of tissue is breathing and alive when aborted, it should be placed on a closet shelf to expire.</p>
<p>She will ignore your criticism of her belief that we are a deeply racist country; instead she will ignore your sarcasm, pretend you&#8217;re being serious about that, and congratulate you on finally realizing how deeply racist we are.</p>
<p>I was going to try to respond as if I were actually her, but it would have taken so much effort that I wasn&#8217;t up to that task.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Martel</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/04/18/honing-our-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-47848</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Martel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 19:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that Helen is back, it will be interesting to see how see responds to the creeping anti-Semitism and Marxism of her hero, the dusky president whose skin color led to him being oppressed and looked down upon by a thoroughly racist America that refused to let him enter Ivy league schools or run for high office.

What elaborate excuse will she offer for his cozying up to the homophobic, racist Castro brothers? Will she tut-tut the sending of the anti-Semite George Mitchell to tell those pesky Israeli Joos to deal with the poor oppressed peace-loving Palestinians with no strings attached?

How will Christian Helen defend her hero&#039;s defense of infanticide?

Tune in, folks, as blackest person on this board explains to us why it was a virtue to vote for somebody based on the color of his skin and how we&#039;ve got to give our deeply tanned (and therefore morally superior) prez the benefit of another 15 or 20 years to get his progressive ideas really rolling. 

(Chuck Martel heads off to pop some popcorn and fluff up the ottoman.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that Helen is back, it will be interesting to see how see responds to the creeping anti-Semitism and Marxism of her hero, the dusky president whose skin color led to him being oppressed and looked down upon by a thoroughly racist America that refused to let him enter Ivy league schools or run for high office.</p>
<p>What elaborate excuse will she offer for his cozying up to the homophobic, racist Castro brothers? Will she tut-tut the sending of the anti-Semite George Mitchell to tell those pesky Israeli Joos to deal with the poor oppressed peace-loving Palestinians with no strings attached?</p>
<p>How will Christian Helen defend her hero&#8217;s defense of infanticide?</p>
<p>Tune in, folks, as blackest person on this board explains to us why it was a virtue to vote for somebody based on the color of his skin and how we&#8217;ve got to give our deeply tanned (and therefore morally superior) prez the benefit of another 15 or 20 years to get his progressive ideas really rolling. </p>
<p>(Chuck Martel heads off to pop some popcorn and fluff up the ottoman.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/04/18/honing-our-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-47846</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;I just think they are also like a brick wall.&lt;/b&gt;

I don&#039;t dispute that, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>I just think they are also like a brick wall.</b></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t dispute that, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
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		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Remember, the American Revolution was supported by considerably fewer than 50% of the population, &gt;&gt;

You might find it interesting to do a search on the &quot;Three Percenters&quot;...  or &quot;III Percenters&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Remember, the American Revolution was supported by considerably fewer than 50% of the population, &gt;&gt;</p>
<p>You might find it interesting to do a search on the &#8220;Three Percenters&#8221;&#8230;  or &#8220;III Percenters&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Quisp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quisp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suek said 
&lt;em&gt;Good luck with that. I think that a large part of the problem is that there’s an identity crisis that has to be overcome - “I’m a Liberal (or Democrat, or whatever) and proud of it”.&lt;/em&gt;

I think that&#039;s very true, and I have no illusions about &quot;converting&quot; the sister-in-law. I&#039;d consider the visit a rousing success if she simply became more aware of her thought process. 

And I&#039;d be 110% behind your &quot;tax and test&quot; requirement for suffrage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suek said<br />
<em>Good luck with that. I think that a large part of the problem is that there’s an identity crisis that has to be overcome &#8211; “I’m a Liberal (or Democrat, or whatever) and proud of it”.</em></p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s very true, and I have no illusions about &#8220;converting&#8221; the sister-in-law. I&#8217;d consider the visit a rousing success if she simply became more aware of her thought process. </p>
<p>And I&#8217;d be 110% behind your &#8220;tax and test&#8221; requirement for suffrage.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y...

I don&#039;t disagree with you. I like the elbow joint thing!

I just think they are also like a brick wall. They&#039;re only strong if, or so long as you choose to beat your head against them; so long as you allow them to define the argument, or battle space. Like the Maginot Line.

Like the Maginot Line the must simply be ignored.

Remember, the American Revolution was supported by considerably fewer than 50% of the population, but the superior ideas prevailed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#8230;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t disagree with you. I like the elbow joint thing!</p>
<p>I just think they are also like a brick wall. They&#8217;re only strong if, or so long as you choose to beat your head against them; so long as you allow them to define the argument, or battle space. Like the Maginot Line.</p>
<p>Like the Maginot Line the must simply be ignored.</p>
<p>Remember, the American Revolution was supported by considerably fewer than 50% of the population, but the superior ideas prevailed.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 03:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helen&#039;s back! and as always, it is me that she first pokes at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helen&#8217;s back! and as always, it is me that she first pokes at.</p>
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