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		<title>By: George Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/05/08/socialisms-waterloo/comment-page-1/#comment-49086</link>
		<dc:creator>George Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 14:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Highlander #10

I think you are right, but it might not matter.   There are six billion people in this world.   At any one time, many hundreds of millions of them would come to the US, if given the chance.  While the Dems have been distracted by the economy and the perceived need to further demonize the Bush administration, they will soon get to &quot;comprehensive immigration reform.&quot;   I am afraid that the Dems will,  in time for the 2010 and 2012 elections, import as many new voters as necessary to maintain their grip on power.  

Bertolt Brecht, who I otherwise have no use for, wrote this poem about the 1953 East German uprising:

    After the uprising of the 17th of June
    The Secretary of the Writers Union
    Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee
    Stating that the people
    Had thrown away the confidence of the government
    And could win it back only
    By redoubled efforts. Would it not be easier
    In that case for the government
    To dissolve the people
    And elect another? 

With their ability to import millions of voters, and get ACCORN to manufacture more as needed, the Dems can determine the outcomes of most elections in advance.  

I don&#039;t know how this will all play out, but I am not optimistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Highlander #10</p>
<p>I think you are right, but it might not matter.   There are six billion people in this world.   At any one time, many hundreds of millions of them would come to the US, if given the chance.  While the Dems have been distracted by the economy and the perceived need to further demonize the Bush administration, they will soon get to &#8220;comprehensive immigration reform.&#8221;   I am afraid that the Dems will,  in time for the 2010 and 2012 elections, import as many new voters as necessary to maintain their grip on power.  </p>
<p>Bertolt Brecht, who I otherwise have no use for, wrote this poem about the 1953 East German uprising:</p>
<p>    After the uprising of the 17th of June<br />
    The Secretary of the Writers Union<br />
    Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee<br />
    Stating that the people<br />
    Had thrown away the confidence of the government<br />
    And could win it back only<br />
    By redoubled efforts. Would it not be easier<br />
    In that case for the government<br />
    To dissolve the people<br />
    And elect another? </p>
<p>With their ability to import millions of voters, and get ACCORN to manufacture more as needed, the Dems can determine the outcomes of most elections in advance.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how this will all play out, but I am not optimistic.</p>
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		<title>By: George Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/05/08/socialisms-waterloo/comment-page-1/#comment-49085</link>
		<dc:creator>George Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 14:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny, I think the pain may get here a little sooner than you think.  The current recession will end, although not because of anything Obama does. People with secure income, (that is, most of us) have put off big ticket purchases, such as houses, cars, living room furniture, etc.   As cars and sofas wear out, purchases of such items will resume.  However, the employment picture will not improve and probably will worsen.  The Democrats tax and regulatory policies all but guarantee that no new production facilities will open in the US.  Worse still, the movement of industry to China, India and Brazil will accelerate.  There may be a pick up in jobs for store clerks and cashiers, but industrial employment will further decline.  The trade balance will grow worse as demand picks up, but production goes down.  Our energy dependency will worsen as the Democrats repress coal use, continue to block offshore drilling and prohibit new nuclear plants.  The decline of the dollar will accelerate.  And if the Dems push through any meaningful carbon cap/tax, the economic recovery will come to a screeching halt.   

The decline in Europe was slowed somewhat by the strength of the US and the enormous defense subsidy  they got from us.  I don&#039;t see anything to slow our decline from the damages of socialism, especially considering that we were already half way there before Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny, I think the pain may get here a little sooner than you think.  The current recession will end, although not because of anything Obama does. People with secure income, (that is, most of us) have put off big ticket purchases, such as houses, cars, living room furniture, etc.   As cars and sofas wear out, purchases of such items will resume.  However, the employment picture will not improve and probably will worsen.  The Democrats tax and regulatory policies all but guarantee that no new production facilities will open in the US.  Worse still, the movement of industry to China, India and Brazil will accelerate.  There may be a pick up in jobs for store clerks and cashiers, but industrial employment will further decline.  The trade balance will grow worse as demand picks up, but production goes down.  Our energy dependency will worsen as the Democrats repress coal use, continue to block offshore drilling and prohibit new nuclear plants.  The decline of the dollar will accelerate.  And if the Dems push through any meaningful carbon cap/tax, the economic recovery will come to a screeching halt.   </p>
<p>The decline in Europe was slowed somewhat by the strength of the US and the enormous defense subsidy  they got from us.  I don&#8217;t see anything to slow our decline from the damages of socialism, especially considering that we were already half way there before Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 17:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>highlander #10,

You heighten my hope and my optimism! Thank you!</description>
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<p>You heighten my hope and my optimism! Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 16:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;I agree with Charles The Hammer. &lt;/b&gt;

Nice reference, Danny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>I agree with Charles The Hammer. </b></p>
<p>Nice reference, Danny.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/05/08/socialisms-waterloo/comment-page-1/#comment-49057</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 15:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want my answer, then it is pretty simple. So long as Leftists remain human and do not become super men ala the Planned Parenthood eugenics philosophy, then there will never be a 100% perfect state of existence with 100% full of positive things. There will always be negatives.

On the other hand, as a corollary, there will never be something with nothing but negatives. This kind of purity does not exist, not even in the laws of the universe.

Diversity is the name of the game, but diversity within strict and unmoving laws.

And the law of human nature is that human beings cannot always do wrong just as we cannot always do the right thing. So long as an opposite exists, both shall exist. And so long as opposites exist, matter and anti-matter, perfection will never come into existence.

The Left, however, they want to change this. They want to equalize things. This is an arrogant and megalomaniacal grab at power that was never meant for their hands.

The hypocritical Left talks about how we aren&#039;t worthy or responsible enough or the rewards don&#039;t outweigh the risks, in terms of having the citizens of America be armed with the fearsome &quot;gun&quot;. (shivers, fearsome)

But the Left, the Democrat corrupt murderers and wannabe murderers, they, and they only, believe that they are worthy of the power to equalize things in human beings. They attribute to themselves the virtues and powers of a God, a state of perfection that is only marred by the imperfection and the increasingly non-uniform and non-conformist/pliable opposition, that would be us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want my answer, then it is pretty simple. So long as Leftists remain human and do not become super men ala the Planned Parenthood eugenics philosophy, then there will never be a 100% perfect state of existence with 100% full of positive things. There will always be negatives.</p>
<p>On the other hand, as a corollary, there will never be something with nothing but negatives. This kind of purity does not exist, not even in the laws of the universe.</p>
<p>Diversity is the name of the game, but diversity within strict and unmoving laws.</p>
<p>And the law of human nature is that human beings cannot always do wrong just as we cannot always do the right thing. So long as an opposite exists, both shall exist. And so long as opposites exist, matter and anti-matter, perfection will never come into existence.</p>
<p>The Left, however, they want to change this. They want to equalize things. This is an arrogant and megalomaniacal grab at power that was never meant for their hands.</p>
<p>The hypocritical Left talks about how we aren&#8217;t worthy or responsible enough or the rewards don&#8217;t outweigh the risks, in terms of having the citizens of America be armed with the fearsome &#8220;gun&#8221;. (shivers, fearsome)</p>
<p>But the Left, the Democrat corrupt murderers and wannabe murderers, they, and they only, believe that they are worthy of the power to equalize things in human beings. They attribute to themselves the virtues and powers of a God, a state of perfection that is only marred by the imperfection and the increasingly non-uniform and non-conformist/pliable opposition, that would be us.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/05/08/socialisms-waterloo/comment-page-1/#comment-49056</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 15:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All too often the people of this world and especially in America hear only negative things about America. Never about the strength, the virtues, or the courage of America. Never the accomplishments, only the failures or the setbacks or the negatives.

If a child was raised under this kind of teaching in respect to the child&#039;s accomplishments and failures, how would that child develop? And how does the Left justify it to the rest of us, successfully so even, that we should treat children and educate them so that they have a high degree of confidence, when the Left has sought to decrease humanity&#039;s confidence in America from day one with an endless psychological campaign of pillaging and burning?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All too often the people of this world and especially in America hear only negative things about America. Never about the strength, the virtues, or the courage of America. Never the accomplishments, only the failures or the setbacks or the negatives.</p>
<p>If a child was raised under this kind of teaching in respect to the child&#8217;s accomplishments and failures, how would that child develop? And how does the Left justify it to the rest of us, successfully so even, that we should treat children and educate them so that they have a high degree of confidence, when the Left has sought to decrease humanity&#8217;s confidence in America from day one with an endless psychological campaign of pillaging and burning?</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
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		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 15:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;America is the only country in the history of the world to be founded on principles.&gt;&gt;

You know...I never thought of it that way.  Of course, you&#039;re right.  Of course, it&#039;s obvious.  I just never thought of it that way.

It needs to be carved into something _big_ somewhere!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;America is the only country in the history of the world to be founded on principles.&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>You know&#8230;I never thought of it that way.  Of course, you&#8217;re right.  Of course, it&#8217;s obvious.  I just never thought of it that way.</p>
<p>It needs to be carved into something _big_ somewhere!</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 14:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;If I were The One, I’d be worried about the quiet rumblings and second thoughts that are spreading out across the land.&lt;/b&gt;

That&#039;s what he has his Jugend Civilian &quot;Volunteer&quot; Force For, Charles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>If I were The One, I’d be worried about the quiet rumblings and second thoughts that are spreading out across the land.</b></p>
<p>That&#8217;s what he has his Jugend Civilian &#8220;Volunteer&#8221; Force For, Charles.</p>
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		<title>By: highlander</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 14:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real America is very different from the America we see in the media.  Of course, all of you who are regular visitors here already know that.  But what you may not know is how big that difference really is.

What we see in the media is not the tip of an iceberg.  It is a dirty little snowball perched on one side with a couple dozen television cameras zoomed in on it.

When I retired, my wife and I spent a couple years touring America in a motor coach.  What we found was a very big, very beautiful country with a whole lot of very good people in it.

What I am sensing now is a growing, smoldering, pent up, deep felt anger among those very good people with what is going on these days in Washington.  The Tea Party movement was a straw in the wind which showed just how deep and widespread that anger has already become.  I believe that it will only take a spark for that anger to burst forth and a leader to channel it.

What event will provide that spark, and when it will occur, I do not know.  It might be a decision by the Obama administration to hold show trials for former Bush administration officials, or it might be something else.  Whatever it is, I pray that when it happens and the American people finally say, &quot;Enough!&quot; an articulate leader will appear who can show us how to reestablish the principles that made us great -- not in a sense of moving back, but in a sense of moving forward.

America is the only country in the history of the world to be founded on principles.  Those principles are still embedded in the hearts and minds of most of the American people, the media not withstanding.  I pray that Charles is right and that those principles will be the rock upon which the ship of socialism founders.

Thank you Charles for a magnificent post.  You have rekindled my hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real America is very different from the America we see in the media.  Of course, all of you who are regular visitors here already know that.  But what you may not know is how big that difference really is.</p>
<p>What we see in the media is not the tip of an iceberg.  It is a dirty little snowball perched on one side with a couple dozen television cameras zoomed in on it.</p>
<p>When I retired, my wife and I spent a couple years touring America in a motor coach.  What we found was a very big, very beautiful country with a whole lot of very good people in it.</p>
<p>What I am sensing now is a growing, smoldering, pent up, deep felt anger among those very good people with what is going on these days in Washington.  The Tea Party movement was a straw in the wind which showed just how deep and widespread that anger has already become.  I believe that it will only take a spark for that anger to burst forth and a leader to channel it.</p>
<p>What event will provide that spark, and when it will occur, I do not know.  It might be a decision by the Obama administration to hold show trials for former Bush administration officials, or it might be something else.  Whatever it is, I pray that when it happens and the American people finally say, &#8220;Enough!&#8221; an articulate leader will appear who can show us how to reestablish the principles that made us great &#8212; not in a sense of moving back, but in a sense of moving forward.</p>
<p>America is the only country in the history of the world to be founded on principles.  Those principles are still embedded in the hearts and minds of most of the American people, the media not withstanding.  I pray that Charles is right and that those principles will be the rock upon which the ship of socialism founders.</p>
<p>Thank you Charles for a magnificent post.  You have rekindled my hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 13:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My confidence and agreement with Charles depends solely on how I feel about the American People on any given day;  will enough of us wake up in time to smell the coffee and perceive the truth?

You take almost any EU country and they&#039;re further down the road towards the collapse - or even in the midst of the collapse - than we are.  And yet they simply cannot see what is all around them.

Or you look at Russia, beset with social and cultural problems on every front, and most of them are due to their adherence to various parts of the socialist ideology.  Can they see this?  They truly are in the midst of a catastrophic collapse, and yet they on the whole cannot perceive it, and thus fail to lay the blame where it belongs.

Is there any reason to have confidence that the American People are any better than this, and will be able to perceive the truth, and lay the blame where it belongs?  In time for 2010, or 2012, or even 2016?  Heck, it could be 2024, and we could be in the midst of a catastrophic leftist/Statist collapse... and 55% of the American People might still be unable to perceive the true causes of their misery.  Befuddled and misdirected by media campaigns that blame other causes, deliberately deceived by their politicians...

Today I am unsure that the American People will perceive the truth, and abandon this disastrous experiment with Statist fiscal policy and leftist social policy in time to send Obama back to Chicago and turn out enough others in Congress to make a difference.  I&#039;m hopeful but not exactly optimistic.  On other days I&#039;m actually optimistic, even for 2010!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My confidence and agreement with Charles depends solely on how I feel about the American People on any given day;  will enough of us wake up in time to smell the coffee and perceive the truth?</p>
<p>You take almost any EU country and they&#8217;re further down the road towards the collapse &#8211; or even in the midst of the collapse &#8211; than we are.  And yet they simply cannot see what is all around them.</p>
<p>Or you look at Russia, beset with social and cultural problems on every front, and most of them are due to their adherence to various parts of the socialist ideology.  Can they see this?  They truly are in the midst of a catastrophic collapse, and yet they on the whole cannot perceive it, and thus fail to lay the blame where it belongs.</p>
<p>Is there any reason to have confidence that the American People are any better than this, and will be able to perceive the truth, and lay the blame where it belongs?  In time for 2010, or 2012, or even 2016?  Heck, it could be 2024, and we could be in the midst of a catastrophic leftist/Statist collapse&#8230; and 55% of the American People might still be unable to perceive the true causes of their misery.  Befuddled and misdirected by media campaigns that blame other causes, deliberately deceived by their politicians&#8230;</p>
<p>Today I am unsure that the American People will perceive the truth, and abandon this disastrous experiment with Statist fiscal policy and leftist social policy in time to send Obama back to Chicago and turn out enough others in Congress to make a difference.  I&#8217;m hopeful but not exactly optimistic.  On other days I&#8217;m actually optimistic, even for 2010!</p>
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